Spoiler One Piece Chapter 970 Spoilers Discussion

[Reign]

Kaido clubbed Oden without a named attack. a clean hit from that club is over for 99% of OP characters. Oden scarred Kaido with a named attack, fake momo called him, but in no time Kaido catching up to him and clubbed him. Kaido was far from over, even Oden knew he's not gonna kill him and said " dont ever come back to Wano country!!!" maybe even if Oden scarred him again, he wont be done by that also.

 

[MonsterZoro]

Its crazy not even a named attack and oden is bleeding like crazy.

 

[Homelander]

Third page, look at Kaido and hsi retainer. Kanjuro is facing the otherside.

Fourth page he is shownfacing.

The third page his face is not drawn clear. Its hard to tell.

 

[sanjikun]

Its crazy not even a named attack and oden is bleeding like crazy.

He got cracked in the back of his skull with a spiked club...

 

[Albino 👑]

You guys literally have no clue.

The Zooan form is physically STRONGER than Hybrid form. The Hybrid form is just FASTER than Zooan form and more agile.

Hybrid lucci vs fill on leopard lucci isn't much a fight tho at all
Like most hybrids vs full on zoans

 

[Shura]

link it

Got my Jump.

Kaido and Beast Pirates wait for Oden in ambush.
Oden didn't imagine this situation because he was planning to kill Kaido sleeping drunk.

Kaido laughs and implies a traitor exists in Oden's castle.

Kaido tells Oden that he is similar to Roger and Whitebeard, who are/were strong but naive at the same time.

Contrary to the rumor Kaido has heard that Oden is crazy, Oden decided the choice where nobody in Wano gets hurt. Otherwise, the battle against Oden and Co. would be hard for Kaido.

Shinobu is safe thanks to Oden's lie.

courtesy: @Arara

 

[Jo_Ndule]

Kaido attack power is insane lmao

Kaido could've probably defeated Oden without help, Oda just wanted Oden to look decent here lol

I'm telling you

Kaido is insanely powerful physically
His AP Endurance Durability are all >Roger/WB

For BM to match Kaido in direct clash and both shook the seas and island on every blow
These dudes are pinnacle of physical stats.

 

[Homelander]

Kaidos club can one shot opponents.

I am curious how shanks handled kaido btw ?

 

[MonsterZoro]

Kaido club swing vs white beard earth quake which is stronger

 

[sanjikun]

Being stronger and useless in a fight makes the form weaker than the other.

Zoan form is sure stronger physically but overall it is weak for 1 vs 1 battle

Sanjikun you should stop thinking "having strength " means you are automatically strong
What matters is how good that form is against skilled fighters
This is why g4 Boundman was useless and less effective against Cracker or Katakuri.

Hybrid >base>Zoan kaido
Hybrid form is always the trump card of zoans

Again, it's all a matter of what you want to achieve. If you want pure destruction/raw power, than this form IS the strongest

If you want simple nimbleness/agility, than base form is the best:

Even though hybrid combines the two, and it's the most "balanced", it is also weaker than the Zooan form, and less agile than the base form.

 

[Topi Jerami]

Any of the scabbard wearing a white sleeve clothes?
Who knows, in mid of confusion and panicked, the one who backstabbed Ashura was the traitor instead of the Beast Pirates

 

[MonsterZoro]

Jack still being useless.

 

[OmegaPsyche]

Kaido club swing vs white beard earth quake which is stronger

Kaido, if he uses hybrid/awakening.

 

[Homelander]

Any of the scabbard wearing a white sleeve clothes?
Who knows, in mid of confusion and panicked, the one who backstabbed Ashura was the traitor instead of the Beast Pirates

Thats what i thought what if its kinemon

 

[Jo_Ndule]

Lmfao the hypocrisy. You guys kept saying how could Boundman be Low/Mid Admiral level when Kaido "one shot" him. I kept explaining that even guys like Fujitora/Rayleigh wouldn't be able to eat that attack cleanly, and if Luffy's FS was working properly, he'd avoid it.

Oden didn't even eat a Thunder Bagua. It was just a base hit. And this dude was about to kill Kaido.

I remember your posts too.

Remember these guys thought it was a bluff to think Fuji/Rayleigh and other top tiers will be oneshotted by Kaido strike

Now look!
Fuji was never a physical beast as Oden. His Katakuri on guard was never overpowered by g3.

Fuji is getting blown and bruised by g3 showed Fuji will be damaged badly by g4
Kaido can indeed oneshot top tiers!

A natural born freak got oneshotted !! There is no hope for other top tiers who arent great at endurance and durability

I debated this with other people , they think I was insane to imply A top tier can oneshot another top tier.

 

[Reign]

Jack still being useless.

Jack shouldve spanked Momonosuke, they were both 8 years old at that time

 

[Homelander]

Jack still being useless.

He was 8 year old back then

 

[sanjikun]

Kaidos club can one shot opponents.

I am curious how shanks handled kaido btw ?

He can one shot if he lands a clean hit. That's a big if. With Luffy he did it because Luffy was pissed off/flustered and had no FS. With Oden, it was because he turned around.

Technically Katakuri can one shot some Top Tiers, if they're not paying attention.

Law can do the same thing

and Magellan...and Sugar....I can go on.

 

[Albino 👑]

Linlin x kaido
Shes the only one able to get able to get pounded by kaido long black club

 

[trav]

Whos ever hyped the animal forms to be equal to the hybrid form lol
Thats crazy if people believe that

the only downside I see is that it is not useful for the accustomed fighting style of the users. hand to hand combat or swordsmanship for example.
well, unless they had a simian fruit.
take Sengoku for example. his size increases so much. if that is not full zoan Buddah then idk.

the forms are not really weaker I guess. horses for courses.
in Kaidos case it gives him access to boro breath. not sure if hybrid would allow for that.