[FNZ] Role Madness Kaguya-sama: Love is Mafia!

[Dragomir]

@Xlaw @Ryu Kishi y'all two need to do something. Give me some thoughts, reads, a gth list or something. There's a limit to how long we can let you coast and the limit's up.

 

[Dragomir]

Lol my heads spinning. I just ISO’d you and realized there was a CFD away from Juliet’s wagon at one point so now I’m rereading D1 to try and hunt for teammates in that ordeal. I’ll give commentary after that’s done.

There wasn't really a CFD from her. The CFD was on UwU away from Mango led by Usopp.

 

[Dr_Professor83]

There wasn't really a CFD from her. The CFD was on UwU away from Mango led by Usopp.

From what I’ve gathered it was a CFD away from Juliet before Mango took the lead. You ever called it a CFD away from Juliet

And if we're cfd'ing away from Juliet, then I'd rather vote Mango than John.

But I want to read how it played out for myself. It appears Juliet was the lead at one point and then things shifted.

 

[Dr_Professor83]

Ussop appears to have lead both lol.

 

[Dragomir]

From what I’ve gathered it was a CFD away from Juliet before Mango took the lead. You ever called it a CFD away from Juliet



But I want to read how it played out for myself. It appears Juliet was the lead at one point and then things shifted.

Oh, I did. Completely forgot to be honest. Got too hung up on Mango-UwU.

 

[Dr_Professor83]

Alright Drago, you were one of the people to buy into Ultra’s lie detect claim as townie the most easily and a lot of your D1 revolves around him.

Defending:

He pretty much did. Not explicitly but like if he's not denying it then he's claiming it if you ask me.

I've seen people claim it D1 multiple times. I've done it before.

What's more likely? Scum fake claiming lie detector D1 for no reason without being prompted to do so or a townie fake claiming it? Latter makes much more sense to me.

This next one is especially pingy, it would be bad if Ultra caught heat for surviving too long as claimed lie detect if he was your buddy:

This logic is dumb. Like Ultra would obviously be protected players based on his hint/claim, whatever you wanna call it. Why would mafia kill him? Are you killing a claimed lie detector who has a high chance of being protected as mafia, Usopp?

More defending:

So they can get everyone to say "I am town" which would allow them to easily confirm if someone's town or not. That's a pretty obvious benefit to it. I don't understand how you don't know.

More defending from a new angle now:

Completely different context. Naruto game had the Ninja Way mechanic to punish town for claiming. Everyone didn't like that you claimed. Usopp was literally the only player who was in favor of claiming.

This FOS on Juliet will be relevant later:

Fuji and Ryu as my scum reads. FoS on Alibaba, Juliet, and Conq. I town read Ekko, you, Kagura, and UwU. Rest are null.

Not sure why you even mentioned Ultra in this one based on the post you’re replying to, but maybe I’m misunderstanding:

Your logic is dumb, mate. You can't pressure someone who's not here. Ultra will respond to your posts when he gets online like any other normal mafia player will do. Just wait. You're tripping balls over a vote for no reason.

At least try to understand my way of doing things.
>I like to be thoughtful with my vote.
>When I vote someone, it's to lynch them.
>I don't suspect Ultra like you do. I want to see his response to the accusations against him before determining if I want to lynch him.

So with all that considered, I'm not going to vote Ultra.

Now you’ve gone from defending Ultra to defending not voting Ultra:

am not voting Ultra because I do not scum read him. My goodness. I vote to lynch people. I wanted to lynch Ryu at the time, not Ultra and I still don't want to lynch Ultra. How is this so difficult to understand?

Also, why would I vote Ultra because he's not replying? I didn't vote Ryu until after he replied to me. I'm not the one who suspects Ultra, you are. All this Ultra stuff straight up has nothing to do with me. I'm just waiting for the guy to respond before coming to a conclusion on his alignment. Why does that bother you so much?

Mentions Juliet here and acknowledges she’s shady:

I can see why you suspect Juliet but enlighten me on Mango.

Needs to be sold on the Juliet case? You’ve already pointed your own FOS on her and said you understand the suspicion. You should be perfectly aware of the case:

Sell me your case on her.

More defending your non vote of Ultra on Ekko. Just weird you went back and forth with him on that so long instead of giving him the last word on it. Now dragging JW into it:

Okay.

Why did you not grill John for refusing to vote Ultra as well? We had the same logic concerning it, but you only came after me.

I read your posts on him but I didn't see you say anything about him not wanting to vote Ultra, yet.

I get that you only asked me to vote Ultra but he still basically said the same thing I did, but you only argued with me over it.

More Juliet stuff. You already have FOS on Juliet and understand the reasoning on her per earlier but now you sound like Kagura is the one who brought her to your attention:

I've isoed Juliet and I agree with Kagura's take. She's only spent 3 posts giving reads that aren't leading anywhere nor is she pushing anybody to lynch. 98% of her posts are defensive. At least when I was defending myself against Ekko, I was still trying to game solve on Fuji. There's a complete lack of that. What's the most damning thing about her, though, is her not doing saying "I am town" for the lie detect. Especially considering that she believes that Ultra is the lie detector:

Is this a mix of scum tmi and scum wanting to avoid a lie detect? Looks like it to me.

^ That Part about scum TMI on the lie detect could be a good way to paint Ultra as more townie if Juliet goes down.

Yeah, she's trying to get on his good side and avoid further conflict by giving him a town read. Classic scum in peril tactic. I've even done it before.

^ You sound pretty certain that’s what’s happening.

Followed by a vote:

Vote Lynch Juliet

And some banter with Juliet:

You just named 9 whole players, of course there's scum in there. I can make a list of any 9 players and there'd be a good chance there's scum there. This post is quite meaningless. You're CWACing, Jules.

But you don’t seem to mind CFDing elsewhere after a claim you apparently didn’t really buy at first.

And if we're cfd'ing away from Juliet, then I'd rather vote Mango than John.

Hmm, I wasn't thinking about that. My first thought was that she's claiming a protect role which is an easy claim for scum to make, but thinking about it now, you're right that it can be confirmed.

We're not anymore. She claimed and we're letting her go for now. There's an hour and 8 mins remaining. Vote Mango.

Noted that you turn this into a CFD away from Mango and forget the Juliet part:

Yeah, this CFD he's doing looks bad. Huge attempt to save Mango. Looks even worse with how reluctant he was to vote Mango in the first place despite Mango being in his scum reads.

Maybe nitpicky but you only bothered to justice not voting Juliet out of your scum leans and reads:

Town -
You, Kagura, and Fuji are my solid town reads right now.

Town lean -
Conq and JW. John's vote switch at the end makes him look a little worse in my eyes. Need his clear-up on that.

Scum lean -
Juliet and T-Pein. Juliet I'm letting go for now since we can prove her claim true or false with her action.

Scum -
Mango and Ekko I strongly read as scum.

 

[Dr_Professor83]

I’ll put this here for now lol.

Vote Lynch Drago.

 

[Dr_Professor83]

I still have some other people to look at. Idc about their claim, I want to look at both Flower and Kagura more closely.

 

[Dr_Professor83]

I don’t think I’ve ever played with Drago as scum. If I have It’s drawing a blank. So I don’t really have a way of knowing if he’d defend a teammate the way he was defending Ultra or what his style is.

 

[T-Pein™]

Vote Lynch Flower

Your time is up

Someone manipulated you btw,
Not sure what that means yet

 

[T-Pein™]

Yes and you can see the results of that

Scum has unblockable kills.

 

[T-Pein™]

Seriously cannot believe Usopp was actually town. Mango too.

I'ma have to rethink some stuff now.

@Ekkologix was 100% playing scummy AF.
And just like I said all game.
He protected the scum roleblocker Juliet.
Cringe.

 

[T-Pein™]

One thing about UwU is claiming to try to protect Mango is kind of unnecessary as scum imo. It’s a weird claim.

Also pulling off after realizing that we don’t get notified of blocks seems like something town would do who jumped the gun and then thought things through. Just curious on whether or not he was after Flower last phase or not bc it wouldn’t make sense to just now be thinking that he must not have been blocked that night a whole day later in that situation.

Ekko spilled the flower info at end of day dude...
Also he got parity checked to me and I am town.
He got checked to flower by ekko and he said that jist b4 he got lynched

 

[T-Pein™]

@Alibaba [???] has been modkilled!

I am sorry to do this guys, but I gave fair warnings to keep this mechanical. I have to make an example here on how serious flavour angeling is and that some hosts that try to host classic mafia games can kinda get frustrated by it. I know this could be a slip up or whatever, but you guys have sometimes to be aware of what you talk about it. Talk about the game, not about stuff that has found resolution in a conflict with the rules. Thanks for hearing me out! The role will flip at EoD!
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@Dragoban
@ConquistadoR
@Kagura
@Xlaw
@T-Pein™
@~UwU~
@Ryu Kishi
@Flower
@Dr_Professor83

Terrible mod kill.

 

[T-Pein™]

Ussop appears to have lead both lol.

Yeah,
I was sure he would flip scum
Dead miller any1?

 

[T-Pein™]

I’ll put this here for now lol.

Vote Lynch Drago.

Ekko said drago was scum.
He just made a post summarizing what I said about ekko.
As scum it would be ez to frame the scummy player ekko.

[Vote Lynch Drago]

 

[Kagu Nyan]

@Ekkologix was 100% playing scummy AF.
And just like I said all game.
He protected the scum roleblocker Juliet.
Cringe.

He protected the scum role blocker only after her claim. He did the same with Mango and Uwu as well. Dude was reluctant to lynch players with important roles which was what a townie would do.

 

[Kagu Nyan]

I’m still not completely convinced about Uwu’s supposed “masoning” with Pein tonight right after Mango claimed to have copped him along with Pein yesterday. I’m not sure I buy that.

 

[Kagu Nyan]

Imagine if Alibaba was a the SK who just got modkilled.
If not, RIP Alibaba and thank you for your services to the town community!

 

[Dr_Professor83]

Ekko spilled the flower info at end of day dude...
Also he got parity checked to me and I am town.
He got checked to flower by ekko and he said that jist b4 he got lynched

I did find the claim from Ekko where the did the RB think to UwU and Flower, but we don’t really learn anything from it bc we apparently don’t know if either was blocked.

As for the parity check, there’s always chance for tampering so that’s a grain of salt. You and UwU are overall leaning toward Town for me rn regardless of that tho. I did that Juliet ISO on you earlier, but when I actually read the day your Juliet vote made more sense. Also both your and UwU’s claims today make sense to me.