Powers & Abilities Sanji CoC

[Julius]

Some of the argues used to prove Sanji cannot get CoC are so lame, cuz you can easily apply the same logic to other characters that have CoC, thats why this is a useless discussion more focused at character favoritism than anything else

Needing to read some poor ass interpretations of events of WCI for example is always a pain in the ass

 

[Monkey D Theories]

The only characters people claim don't have kingly ambitions are ones that we know little to nothing about. Specifically Yamato and kata. Characters who've barely got any focus. However, an overwhelming majority of CoC users have kingly ambitions, so we can just assume that Yamato and Kata also have them but we just don't know about them yet.

 

[Blother Fertitta]

Law will get it so it doesn’t matter

I will be mega salty if Sanji gets Conquerors and Law doesn’t

 

[Welkin]

I will be mega salty if Sanji gets Conquerors and Law doesn’t

Facts

 

[Hereforthesalt]

This arc is about characters becoming who they are.
Yamato will be herself and not Oden.
Momo wont be a child anymore but an adult.
Sanji will be himself and not a Germa.
And Zoro will stop holding back and be a king.
Becoming a king is not planned for Sanji.

Kid will stop being an arrogant loner and become a team player.

Law will place his life on the line for his dream instead of his vendetta.

? Yes?

While Sanji already got his character moment power up vs Queen, Kid and Law have yet to have theirs. There is a high chance Kid uses coc coating and law unlocks coc vs big mom in haki bloom if the awakenings are not enough.

 

[Lunaria]

The "kingly ambitions" argument never worked as it contradicts the manga. Ace literally gave up on his dream of becoming the PK to become a follower and dedicate his life to WB, he even gave up on his life when he got captured. Oden's only ambition was to discover the world, that's not a kingly ambition and much more in line with Sanji's dream than Luffy's. Yamato just has the same dream as Oden as far as we know. Katakuri is a follower dedicating his life to BM. WB used to rule the seas but that wasn't his ambition, it was only the result of his strength. The only reason King mentioned the desire to be a king is because it applies to Zoro's case, he wants to be a king. It was purely situational. Did you see Kaido ask Oden or Yamato what kind of king they want to be ?

 

[Finalbeta]

Realistically the Roger Pirates had 3 + 1 conquerors coz Shanks was a kid who maybe never showed CoC in the crew.

It would not be the end of world if only 3 conquerors were featured amongst the SHs, plus there's still God Usopp as valid alternative.

 

[soheilhazrat]

Realistically the Roger Pirates had 3 + 1 conquerors coz Shanks was a kid who maybe never showed CoC in the crew.

It would not be the end of world if only 3 conquerors were featured amongst the SHs, plus there's still God Usopp as valid alternative.

SH should end up stronger than rocks pirates idk how but i think it will happen

 

[Finalbeta]

SH should end up stronger than rocks pirates idk how but i think it will happen

Well the Rocks had some incredible forces of nature on their own but what I'm mostpy confident about is that Luffy and Zoro will likely reach the level of Prime Roger, maybe Prime Xebec and maybe surpass 'em.

 

[Hiragaro]

What kinda King do you want to be?
Katakuri: I want to protect my family!

What kinda King do you want to be?
Whitebeard: I want to have a family!

What kinda King do you want to be?
Ace: I want to make WB the PK!

What kinda King do you want to be?
Don Chinjao: I want money!

What kinda King do you want to be?
Sengoku: I want to fight for Justice!

What kinda King do you want to be?
Oden: I want to see the world!

What kinda King do you want to be?
Yamato: I want to be free and life like Oden!

Very "Kingly ambitions" lmao

 

[roronoa_fan]

I really can't understand how anyone still believes that Haoshoku means ambition after all we've seen. It's more than clear that it just means strength, it's the power of the strongest and that's it. And because Sanji isn't destined for great feats of strength, he won't awaken that power, it's simple.

 

[Finalbeta]

What kinda King do you want to be?
Katakuri: I want to protect my family!

What kinda King do you want to be?
Whitebeard: I want to have a family!

What kinda King do you want to be?
Ace: I want to make WB the PK!

What kinda King do you want to be?
Don Chinjao: I want money!

What kinda King do you want to be?
Sengoku: I want to fight for Justice!

What kinda King do you want to be?
Oden: I want to see the world!

What kinda King do you want to be?
Yamato: I want to be free and life like Oden!

Very "Kingly ambitions" lmao

I feel like the point of King's haki is not necessarily about how broad and resounding the ambition is, mostly the spirit and the vitality.

 

[spawn]

The Vol. 100 point is funny.
I don't think many people realise that the volume name is just a repeat of one of the chapter names from the volume.

Also, the fact that the main idea of the 99, 100, and 101 covers is that they're a mega-cover should further kill the idea.

Spoiler

If you look at the entire thing as one piece of art, does it look like Oda is "singling out" the CoC users to one area? Not really, no.

 

[Franosuke]

I really can't understand how anyone still believes that Haoshoku means ambition after all we've seen. It's more than clear that it just means strength, it's the power of the strongest and that's it. And because Sanji isn't destined for great feats of strength, he won't awaken that power, it's simple.

Ur gonna get flamed for using that databook LOOL