Powers & Abilities Enma is just a training wheel.

[ImmaIvanoM]

Zoro said mastering Enma is him only cutting that tree if he only wants to cut the tree and not cutting cliffs all the time.

Thats all that was stated about what Zoro was supposed to do from the get go. He wasn't learning some super slash ability. The sword already forces people to do super slashes. Literal fodder could just touch the sword and bam they do a super slash.

Zoro as a master swordsman is the one who stops the sword from doimg a super slash and that's what proves he is better than those fodder swordsmen, he can actually make it not do excessive damage.

That's all that was stated Zoro was doing and had to do.

The haki draining only existed for Zoro to get haki training and doesn't actually affect combat unless Zoro hasn't mastered the sword. As we saw with Oden, complete mastery of the sword just turns it into a regular sword. It's just as effective as any other sword of the same Grade. Meaning as I said before, Enma isn't a power up. It is of the exact same grade as Shusui and can even be argued to be a lesser sword since its not Black. The oniy reason its a plot device is to be a training wheel for Zoro to get stronger but oce in actual combat, it is supposed to function like any other sword.

 

[HA001]

Yep yep yep 1000 times yep
Its just a sword zoros haki is everything not no magic kaido sword !

I love this chapter!

 

[KiriNigiri]

Shusui > Enma

Shusui is a black blade which are notorious for their durability, but also because whenever Zoro used Shusui alongside his other swords, it would absorb the force produced by the other two. Meanwhile, Enma is a sword which emaciates its user if their haki and control of it isn't up to snuff.

If any sword was a crutch for Zoro, it'd be Shusui. Enma might become greater than Shusui, but only after Zoro's gone through the efforts to make it so.

 

[Patryipe]

Yeah, I thought this from the beginning.

Enma is Zoro's Haki training, the same way Udon was Luffy's Haki training.

Even more clear now that we have seen that Oden's second sword also wounded Kaido, so Enma isn't special. The Haki sucking ability is a plot device to train Zoro.

 

[HA001]

Yo @kurwa wheres that enma carrying zoro pic you were so fond of ?

 

[Aknolagon]

But but ... zoro got a PU

It was never the case and never will be!

 

[Rmstorm]

The BS you guys spew does not change what the manga has said, Enma takes the user's haki and makes them cut more than neccessary.

That is a power up.

 

[Gargo]

I agree for the training part guys.

But we just saw Kaidou being cut by Oden and a few chapters before, Enma the super cutting sword.

Honestly Enma is a Sword that cut very well. Like better than other sword that already cut very well.
It is a sword that cut very very well the very resistant skin / scales of zkaidou.

Zoro + Enma -> Will cut Kaidou.

 

[Rivaille]

As I said when 955 came out, it is not a power up in itself and not a magic sword

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

Enma takes the user's haki and makes them cut more than neccessary

Is this the point though? Isn't Zoro training so that that DOESN'T happen?

What exactly do you think Zoro is training to do exactly? Are you saying he's training so that the sword makes him use too much energy?

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But we just saw Kaidou being cut by Oden and a few chapters before, Enma the super cutting sword.

We also saw Ame no habikiri cut Kaido so unless you are saying that sword also has Haki draining powers then Enma having that ability isn't important... Both Enma and Ame no Habikiri are among the 21 great grade swords same as Shusui And Wado Ichimonji and that's it.

That's all Enma is. A 21 great grade sword.

 

[Geo]

The BS you guys spew does not change what the manga has said, Enma takes the user's haki and makes them cut more than neccessary.

That is a power up.

What you just stated makes it a handicap

 

[Rmstorm]

What you just stated makes it a handicap

Nope, Zoro will get stronger in order to weild it. At the end of Wano Zoro will be between YC1 and Admiral level.

 

[Geo]

Nope, Zoro will get stronger in order to weild it. At the end of Wano Zoro will be between YC1 and Admiral level.

If Zoro will get stronger in order to wield it, wouldn't that still make it a handicap to him currently?

 

[ShadyOjiro]

Enma as any other sword Zoro had in the past has a gimmick which Zoro needs to master.

Yubabashiri had it, Shushui had it ,kitetsu too.

But once the gimmick was mastered it became normal like any sword in his hands.

So the same will happen with Enma, the reason he is now progressing really fast is that preTS Zoro was not a master Swordman unlike the current .

 

[style]

Enma is a powerup that needs to be controlled and that can be achieved only after training.
It's not something like the RS which gives you an immediate and drawback-free powerup

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

Nope, Zoro will get stronger in order to weild it. At the end of Wano Zoro will be between YC1 and Admiral level.

So its a training wheel then. The sword itself doesn't do anything aside from being a sword during actual combat as long as Zoro is strong enough to use it... It doesnt cut better than other swords of the same grade as long as Zoro is actually using it properly so in the end it's not better than other swords

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Enma is a powerup that needs to be controlled and that can be achieved only after training.

But it's the exact same grade as Shusui. Once the sword has Been mastered, Zoro HIMSELF will be stronger but the sword will function like any other sword of the same grade so is it a power up or training wheel

Would you call Hyogoro a power up for Luffy or is he a trainer?

 

[Finalbeta]

This was obvious

Enma is an O Wazamono which all wield a similar power being part of the same grade

 

[Rmstorm]

If Zoro will get stronger in order to wield it, wouldn't that still make it a handicap to him currently?

It is a power up and training tool at the same time.

Yes, it is a double edged sword, it has a drawback to it.

It special ability is it automatically draws the users armament haki and releases more haki in a slash than the user can do naturally, cutting more than neccessary.

However since Zoro is strong, he did not die right away when he first got it. The drawback will make Zoro stronger in the long run.

 

[Geo]

It is a power up and training tool at the same time.

Yes, it is a double edged sword, it has a drawback to it.

It special ability is it automatically draws the users armament haki and releases more haki in a slash than the user can do naturally, cutting more than neccessary.

However since Zoro is strong, he did not die right away when he first got it. The drawback will make Zoro stronger in the long run.

You just explained what a handicap is in this post.
If the sword does not allow a swordsman to cut what he/she wants and draws out more ryuo from the user then it is a handicap. Just because the user must get stronger in order to prevent that handicap does not make it a power up.

Similarly, would you say Luffy training with the seastone is a power up?

 

[HA001]

The sword hasnt taken his haki ever again after that first time. Hes used it twice since.