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He literally was blitzing zoro and was stated to be fast. The same dude blitzed sanjis that was wearing a raid suit.

Your points mute because it isn't a point. There's no substance hence why it's me teaching you.

I mean the same king blitzed a ship with bigmom and her crew on it to the point that even when they saw him from a distance they could not react in time yet to ask what speed has king shown? Boy are you as backwards and then forward again?
Zoros slow af compared to sanji so of course he's fast to zoro. Zoros struggling to dodge beam like attacks and sanjis causally dodging a barrage of beams. Big difference.

What speed feats are you asking for? Reread your last paragraph.

Kings only speed feat is on zoro who's a couple tiers below sanji in speed. Nice low tier bait
 
What makes you say king is really fast? I haven't seen any indication. Kings fastest attack is slower than queens laser beam spam.

My points moot cause you can't refute me and have shit tier headcanon.

I'll accept it.

Next time don't use headcanon or I won't debate you. I've yet to see why in anyway fucking possible king has way better perception than king when it comes to speedsters. 🤡
King is definitely fast come on now.........Queen is strong but were not gonna downplay King to bring Queen up.
 
Nah bring up a point and then I won't have to teach you stuff over and over again. You don't think I get tired of schooling you? Tired of taking you to the special short bus
Lmaoooo the autist thinks he's the teacher. It's ok little buddy you're still my special worst gen gem
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King is definitely fast come on now.........Queen is strong but were not gonna downplay King to bring Queen up.
Kings fast compared to queen for sure. Never denied that.
 
Honestly bro I don't view sword as being the only weapon. Every single tempest kick and finger pistol is a weapon. It's used the same way and has the same utility.

What would the difference between luccis finger pistol and a sword be? Both are weapons at that point.


Add in that jabras a tekkai master compared to kaku and I think it balances out even if I was wrong about weapons. Even tho I'm not. It's in the manga.
Well you are also seeing that the rokushiki test can't measure everything in your arsenal, although the shigan you pointed out and also the slicing rankyaku's are also rokushiki abilities so their effectiveness is likely measured in douriki. Honestly I'm not sure Oda gave it THAT much thought but like I pointed out earlier he did make a point of Jyabura and Spandam downplaying douriki as a power level system. I'd appreciate if you would discuss this normally and not just call people autistic since its an interesting topic and still relevant in Zoro/Sanji debates.
 
Zoros slow af compared to sanji so of course he's fast. Zoros struggling to dodge beam like attacks and sanjis causally dodging a barrage of beams. Big difference.

What speed feats are you asking for? Reread your last paragraph.

Kings only speed feat is on zoro who's a couple tiers below sanji in speed. Nice low tier bait
Zoro is slow yet

1. Was stated by Fishman to be FASTER than one under water while sanji was stated to only be as fast as one under water

2. Reacted bigmom movement speed when she was trying kill a tapped out luffy on the roof

3. Blitzed a hybrid kaido that was trying to defendd himself with his club while using ashura. The same kaido who had previous blitzed luffy with his thunderbague pre udon. And later luffy has to use future sight while in base to perceive base kaidos attack.

Sanjis best speed feat? Looking invisible to someone slower than a yonko?
 
Well you are also seeing that the rokushiki test can't measure everything in your arsenal, although the shigan you pointed out and also the slicing rankyaku's are also rokushiki abilities so their effectiveness is likely measured in douriki. Honestly I'm not sure Oda gave it THAT much thought but like I pointed out earlier he did make a point of Jyabura and Spandam downplaying douriki as a power level system. I'd appreciate if you would discuss this normally and not just call people autistic since its an interesting topic and still relevant in Zoro/Sanji debates.
Lmaoooooo thats called headcanon unlike me saying that weapons are counted.

I've been repeating myself over and over. Once I do that then I resort to calling autist cause only an autist would be this redundant
 
Lmaoooo the autist thinks he's the teacher. It's ok little buddy you're still my special worst gen gem
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Kings fast compared to queen for sure. Never denied that.
Don't think I am teacher. I simply know that you need teaching.

Yes which means his speed feat would not be as impressive against someone as fast or faster than king. Thank you for seeing the error of your ways
 
Lmaoooooo thats called headcanon unlike me saying that weapons are counted.

I've been repeating myself over and over. Once I do that then I resort to calling autist cause only an autist would be this redundant
You literally keep saying the same thing over and over without even thinking about what the other person is saying. Someone even posted a scan that the weapon being counted was referring to the soldier and Kaku didn't have his swords near him during the test. Ur just making less and less sense now, give it up.
 
Zoro is slow yet

1. Was stated by Fishman to be FASTER than one under water while sanji was stated to only be as fast as one under water

2. Reacted bigmom movement speed when she was trying kill a tapped out luffy on the roof

3. Blitzed a hybrid kaido that was trying to defendd himself with his club while using ashura. The same kaido who had previous blitzed luffy with his thunderbague pre udon. And later luffy has to use future sight while in base to perceive base kaidos attack.

Sanjis best speed feat? Looking invisible to someone slower than a yonko?
Lmao
>In introduction he uses soru before zoro does in whiskey peak
:okay:
>gets outsped by sanji when going after the same target under water
:zosleepy:
> sanjis 20 different moves vs oven and then running back is more impressive than zoro blitzing distracted yonkos in 2v5
:steef:

>sanji completely erasing his presence in front of queen
:beckmoji:

>direct parralel to kizaru fastest character in op with speed =weight comment right when he gets powerup increasing his speed
:blush:

>Sanji being said by oda to be faster than zoro and luffy pre ts in sbs
:funky:

Just to name a couple
 
You literally keep saying the same thing over and over without even thinking about what the other person is saying. Someone even posted a scan that the weapon being counted was referring to the soldier and Kaku didn't have his swords near him during the test. Ur just making less and less sense now, give it up.
The soldier is meant to count in one weapon when measuring doriki and you get the total strength of that person at the end with a weapon once added up.
The story didn't outright say it measures kakus blade but it extremely heavily implied it did. Otherwise what's the point? If it's just physical strength how is a weapon calculated in?

Your headcanon is showing and I'll choose manga over fan interpretations.
 
Holding a sword<manga saying it counts weapon
Yes, it counts weapons and literally showed an soldier armed with a rifle as an illustration. No where did it say its measured by taking into account whatever weapon you may have stashed somewhere but didnt use to hit fuku. Unless you tell me you think a soldier armed with a rifle and a soldier armed with a bazooka will somehow have the same PL.

in fact, they later talked about how Spandam has a PL of 9 and he immediately talked about how he has a special sword. Sorry, I just think you are reaching here.


 
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