Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1035 Spoilers Discussion

[sanjikun]

Nah, he's no one trick pony, but the implications of introducing an opponent to Zoro that is hard for him to cut, means Zoro HAS to defeat King while he's in durability mode. There is no other way around it. Oda can't cheap out, and have King lose because he dropped him dura, in favor of speed. There is supposed to be nothing that Zoro can't cut by EoS. No way he's not beating King at max dura.

The way Oda set it up is that Zoro had to figure out his trick to win. What's the point of figuring it out if he's not going to take advantage of it?

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

I'm also interested in the way Oda will explain King's ability because we still don't know the process to turn himself into a bomb for example. Is it some time related thing with the more fire he stores inside his body ? Or it is related to the amount of damage he takes, and living some kind of window an opponent must take advantage of ? I hope Oda gives a good explanation around this that makes sense

That's one of the reasons I strongly favor the calamities having awakening. There is still a bunch of lose threads in my opinion that need to be tied up. Not gonna be a fan if Oda is just like "Hey, here's all these mysteries, but too bad, those guys are defeated now, kindly fuck off."

 

[ShishioIsBack]

Nah, he's no one trick pony, but the implications of introducing an opponent to Zoro that is hard for him to cut, means Zoro HAS to defeat King while he's in durability mode. There is no other way around it. Oda can't cheap out, and have King lose because he dropped him dura, in favor of speed. There is supposed to be nothing that Zoro can't cut by EoS. No way he's not beating King at max dura.

No an example of one trick pony would be Kaido where all his other stats are shit but his durability is the only stat that is half way decent tho its irrelevant against Zoro hence why Zoro low diffs him

 

[comrade]

The way Oda set it up is that Zoro had to figure out his trick to win. What's the point of figuring it out if he's not going to take advantage of it?

It's the same with figuring out why Katakuri is intangible to hakified attacks. It doesn't take away that ability from King. It's powerful, with Zoro having to awaken adv.CoC. Mind that King can still fight with his fire on his back. While without his fire, by increasing his speed, he still has ancient Zoan durability.

 

[sanjikun]

The hard part about King is just landing an attack while he's on the move. It's more of a speed feat than overcoming durability.

 

[yorosenpai]

I need to know what is majority opinion of Zoros current power level is.

Wanna see how far I am off it.
I think Zoro is low top tier and basically as strong as Oden was before his death

low top tier - with some area that are already mid top tier (Zoro AP)
wanna see more combination attack with Zoro not 1 movement wait 1 movement wait. I like some fast action spam able combo for Zoro in the future.
I wanna see something that Zoro can spam and has a devastating aoe effect

Anyway AP is mid top tier (above Oden)
Defense (low top tier, singly below Oden)
Speed (high high tier like King&Marco)
Mobility (I wish something better for Zoro areal movement, he has something but I wanna more) (weakest thing for Zoro) / (low high high tier -
CoA (low top tier equal to Oden)
Coo (high ++ tier Marco&King)
Adcoc (low top tier equal to Oden)

Max amount of hacky (low top tier below Oden)

After Wano he can put a good fight to all top tier fighter - (losing to most high diff or extreme diff if he can land his best shot)
(top tier I mean shanks&Mihawk and Co)

 

[HA001]

The hard part about King is just landing an attack while he's on the move. It's more of a speed feat than overcoming durability.

No it's not. Zoro landed loads of hits on him.

 

[comrade]

The hard part about King is just landing an attack while he's on the move. It's more of a speed feat than overcoming durability.

Well. Exactly that happened. Zoro's tiger hunt vs. King's Imperial Archer. What happened? Zoro couldn't scratch King's balls, only shove off his mask and was catapulted out of the skull. You underestimate King here.

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

I need to know what is majority opinion of Zoros current power level is.

Wanna see how far I am off it.
I think Zoro is low top tier and basically as strong as Oden was before his death

I already had King at low top tier, so that would make current Zoro minimum low top tier, maximum mid top tier.

 

[sanjikun]

It's the same with figuring out why Katakuri is intangible to hakified attacks. It doesn't take away that ability from King. It's powerful, with Zoro having to awaken adv.CoC. Mind that King can still fight with his fire on his back. While without his fire, by increasing his speed, he still has ancient Zoan durability.

You're conflating like 6 different things.

Zoro taming Enma was a plotline before King even met Zoro. It has nothing to do with King. Oda just like to showcase new powers during battle rather than training. King is the equivalent of what the Pacifista was for Luffy post-TS. Just a showcase of Zoro's power.

For Katakuri, Luffy figured out that Katakuri was unbeatable without him getting FS.

 

[Peroroncino]

how long till full summary?

 

[sanjikun]

Well. Exactly that happened. Zoro's tiger hunt vs. King's Imperial Archer. What happened? Zoro couldn't scratch King's balls, only shove off his mask and was catapulted out of the skull. You underestimate King here.

Yes, King's Imperial Archer had more raw power than Zoro's Tiger Hunt. That's not even Zoro's 3rd strongest attack.

 

[Doggo]

3 and a half hours until full summary.
3 and a half hours until we know if CoC or No CoC.

 

[ShishioIsBack]

The hard part about King is just landing an attack while he's on the move. It's more of a speed feat than overcoming durability.

Still someone like Katakuri stands no chance
King can turn off his fire defense and Kata still can't do much damage.
Marco hits waay harder than Kong Gun as Marco's nameless attacks did to Kizaru what Kong Gun did to post Gamma Knife Doffy and King took two of Marco's strongest attacks without fire regeneration.

King also hits far harder than King Kong Gun with Tempuradon being 5km long where as King Kong Gun barely doing 500 meters worth of damage.

King in the end 100% beats Katakuri with his explosions, mountain sized Tempuradons, snakeman level speeds etc.

So its not fair to call King YC1, we need to at least call him YC1+

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

First poster on page 440 gets threadbanned unless Lance posts the summary by then

 

[HA001]

First poster on page 440 gets threadbanned unless Lance posts the summary by then

King dead. Cry

 

[draganax]

lmao, king has all this fighting styles, but none of it was enough against zoro's swordsmanship.

 

[ShishioIsBack]

Yes, King's Imperial Archer had more raw power than Zoro's Tiger Hunt. That's not even Zoro's 3rd strongest attack.

And King's Devine Spear is maybe his 3rd strongest unless he used his strongest attack this chapter than it would be 4th strongest.

That devine spear should send Big Mom flying

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

King dead. Cry

time to hate on Zoro again

 

[sanjikun]

And King's Devine Spear is maybe his 3rd strongest unless he used his strongest attack this chapter than it would be 4th strongest.

That devine spear should send Big Mom flying

Point being is Oda was clearly holding back Zoro's strongest moves. The strongest move he used was Onigiri at the start and that cut King open.