Questions & Mysteries King never even used hybrid

[Sheer D. Lusion]

Is his hybrid not what he used for those massive air slashes??

it seemed to me he was just changing his arms to animal form like marco and lafitte can change some parts of their bodies but keep the others human but since his entire body was covered it is impossible to know.

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What about CoC or aCoC? Everyone thinks CoC automatically ranks above non CoC currently.

according to wg zoro most casual slash with advcoc is stronger than his most powerful technique without advcoc
then every attack zoro did in chapter 1035 is stronger than any attack he did on the roof fight
then king >>>> kaido
then if zkk fails people can say beating king is a bigger feat than luffy beating kaido
but if zkk succeeds then people will not need to hype king anymore to indirectly hype zoro and they will drop the king wank

 

[CbShadow]

Talk about awakening or advanced haki.... 100 mil plus for being a lunarian.... ofcourse he is stronger than queen but only becouse queen is an idiot ... queen if serious would destroy King.... So far all beats pirates hasnt shown to be stronger than cracker....p

The copium is strong with you.

Zoro needed ACoC to beat him but somehow he is weaker than cracker.


King not using hybrid mode means he didn't believe there was a benefit to using it. He can enter partial hybird mode.

 

[Finalbeta]

Imagine if awakening was simply Hybrid all along.

 

[T.D.A]

Talk about awakening or advanced haki.... 100 mil plus for being a lunarian.... ofcourse he is stronger than queen but only becouse queen is an idiot ... queen if serious would destroy King.... So far all beats pirates hasnt shown to be stronger than cracker....

He used Hybrid...

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

This is his hybrid form no?

 

[Herrera95]

Yeah, Oda really messed up hybrid forms in this arc. Enies Lobby was way better.

But what the hell about Serious Queen beating King and none of them being stronger than Cracker? King is even stronger than Kaido. You could argue about Queen.

 

[Orojackson Refugee]

candies coping that zoro fighting the stronger calamity :cantseeme: :cantseeme:

 

[Zolo]

Basic Conquerors? Nope.

Advanced Conquerors? There is an argument to be made based on Kaido's words in chapter 1010.

this is bassically you saying, my headcanon is better than your headcannon

 

[Law-sama]

King's hybrid is a disappointment to say the least. He can't even wield a weapon or use his fire abilities when in hybrid.

That's what happen when you give someone who can fly a flying zoan.

 

[ConquistadoR]

this is bassically you saying, my headcanon is better than your headcannon

That is basically me saying that the manga holds more weight than whatever headcanon you are talking about. Nothing has been said about CoC making people stronger than non CoC users by default.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

King's hybrid is a disappointment to say the least. He can't even wield a weapon or use his fire abilities when in hybrid.

That's what happen when you give someone who can fly a flying zoan.

He can use fire at any time. He chooses to maximize speed with his hybrid form.

 

[ArturCantSpeakJapanese]

The chance that not even Kaido will use it is high as Zoans dont need it.Or Oda just has no idea what awakening he can give Zoans

white eyes, knocked out, defeated, but still keep coming. thats the whole point.

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This is his hybrid form no?

thats Wing Point dude. these guys are as good as chopper and have weird transformations.

 

[ShinmenTakezo]

Awakening is just a stamina boost. It’s not as substantial as other awakenings.

Advanced Haki would make Arbel a top tier. Oda couldn’t give him that. His Lunarian defense already requires Advanced CoC to bypass and could not sell Rooftop blows. This is arguably beyond any advanced CoA normally. Add that on top of Lunarian defenses and he’s not getting hurt much at all.

People wanna harp on the lack of high level haki and doesn’t realize it would boost Arbel into another tier given his current abilities.

Based on?

Based on?

 

[ConquistadoR]

Based on?

What we've been told in the story so far. If there is something else, then it changes stuff. But as of now, this is the information that we have.

Spoiler

 

[ShinmenTakezo]

What we've been told in the story so far. If there is something else, then it changes stuff. But as of now, this is the information that we have.

Spoiler

That´s the same as thinking CoC is only fodder control (which many thought to be fair) and so forth.
We are at the endgame, assuming abilities shown by pets 500 chapters ago would be the same as the top of the world seems like nonsense to me, especially if you state it that definitely.

And regarding King requiring AdCoC, the statement is also wrong.
Zoro required it, that´s different than requiring it definitely (like Kaidou for example, who has a high prerequisite).

 

[BillSlipton]

Awakening is just a stamina boost. It’s not as substantial as other awakenings.

Advanced Haki would make Arbel a top tier. Oda couldn’t give him that. His Lunarian defense already requires Advanced CoC to bypass and could not sell Rooftop blows. This is arguably beyond any advanced CoA normally. Add that on top of Lunarian defenses and he’s not getting hurt much at all.

People wanna harp on the lack of high level haki and doesn’t realize it would boost Arbel into another tier given his current abilities.

Also I think it's odas way of saying that you don't need extreme levels of haki to be that strong

 

[ConquistadoR]

That´s the same as thinking CoC is only fodder control (which many thought to be fair) and so forth.
We are at the endgame, assuming abilities shown by pets 500 chapters ago would be the same as the top of the world seems like nonsense to me, especially if you state it that definitely.

But then again, this is the information that we have till now. When Kaido shows awakening, if its something different perhaps then we'll come back to it. Honestly, I won't even be surprised if Oda reveals in an SBS that King, Queen and Kaido were always awakened and had the benefit of the stats boost/endurance boost all along.

IMO, having awakening is a clear sign of powerlevel based on the characters who have it so far f.ex. Katakuri, Doffy, Law, Kid. But awakening is not absolutely necessary to attain or surpass that powerlevel as well f.ex. Luffy, King, Marco.

And regarding King requiring AdCoC, the statement is also wrong.
Zoro required it, that´s different than requiring it definitely (like Kaidou for example, who has a high prerequisite).

Agreed. I always said that Zoro required ACoC. It means that you need a high level of attack potency. Whether you get that through ACoC or insanely strong logias like the C3; it doesn't matter at the end of the day.

 

[Truthseeker]

Katakuri>>>King officially.
Kaido have Yamato. She is true right hand.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Based on?

Based on?

So, stamina and durability(?). If Oda decided to drop in an SBS that Arbel and Queen were awakened, it wouldn't change a thing.

 

[ShinmenTakezo]

But then again, this is the information that we have till now. When Kaido shows awakening, if its something different perhaps then we'll come back to it. Honestly, I won't even be surprised if Oda reveals in an SBS that King, Queen and Kaido were always awakened and had the benefit of the stats boost/endurance boost all along.

IMO, having awakening is a clear sign of powerlevel based on the characters who have it so far f.ex. Katakuri, Doffy, Law, Kid. But awakening is not absolutely necessary to attain or surpass that powerlevel as well f.ex. Luffy, King, Marco.


Agreed. I always said that Zoro required ACoC. It means that you need a high level of attack potency. Whether you get that through ACoC or insanely strong logias like the C3; it doesn't matter at the end of the day.

I am betting that we will see BM´s and Kaidou´s Awakening, especially after Kid and Law used it.

That´s a good statement. I have said this before, a character having Awakening does not automatically mean he is above someone without, but for the character him or herself, it´s a no-brainer it is superior.

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So, stamina and durability(?). If Oda decided to drop in an SBS that Arbel and Queen were awakened, it wouldn't change a thing.

See above.