[FNZ] Salem of Lies ToS - Christmas Special
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I had a whole post prepared over the night for you @Dr_Professor83
I'll post that anyway, along with some of my other reads too.
I'll post that anyway, along with some of my other reads too.
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So, after that flip, two players stand out to me as Al's teammates: Odd and TAC. These two were the ones who gave the most resistance to Al's wagon. What strikes me poorly about Odd is the first time he talks about Al is to say there's nothing on him(this is the resistance I'm referring to).
Then, he spends a great part of the rest of his posts talking about his pirate plan. He avoids Al's wagon. Then, the next time he talks about Al, it's to vote him up. He went "there's nothing on Al" to "vote lynch Al" with nothing in-between.
This is not a natural town progression of a person changing his mind. That is a bus vote. Then there's his vote on me. It came out of nowhere and after Al claimed. He actually looked pretty serious about getting a wagon going too.
I have no idea what he was trying to accomplish with that. Perhaps reducing the votes on Al to get a no lynch?
My logic is the same for TAC. He had an even stronger level of resistance against Al's wagon. Then there was how he tried to get a counter-wagon on Prof with me. He even told Al to claim so we can vote Prof.
Looking very much like a teammate trying to save his buddy. Then Al claims and after seeing that nobody is convinced, he votes Al. Just like Odd, there's nothing in-between displaying any sort of natural town progression of a person changing his mind.
Then, he spends a great part of the rest of his posts talking about his pirate plan. He avoids Al's wagon. Then, the next time he talks about Al, it's to vote him up. He went "there's nothing on Al" to "vote lynch Al" with nothing in-between.
This is not a natural town progression of a person changing his mind. That is a bus vote. Then there's his vote on me. It came out of nowhere and after Al claimed. He actually looked pretty serious about getting a wagon going too.
I have no idea what he was trying to accomplish with that. Perhaps reducing the votes on Al to get a no lynch?
My logic is the same for TAC. He had an even stronger level of resistance against Al's wagon. Then there was how he tried to get a counter-wagon on Prof with me. He even told Al to claim so we can vote Prof.
Looking very much like a teammate trying to save his buddy. Then Al claims and after seeing that nobody is convinced, he votes Al. Just like Odd, there's nothing in-between displaying any sort of natural town progression of a person changing his mind.
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@Dr_Professor83 don't think I forgot about you. My issue with your Cinera vote is because of how easily you made it. You are very careful and never made any quick decisions. I know that mentioned Cinera looking bad cause of the role pms thing but even so, you don't operate on a very quick voting scale. Your T-Pein vote is off to me for the same reason but I can let that one slide a little cause T-Pein had incriminating results.
I talked about you before TAC asked about you. I originally had you as a neutral read until asked about you, and then you can see my thought process in this post developing an FoS:
And when have you ever seen me make a full-blown case on someone who I didn't plan to lynch? I'll make a read and note my reasons why I suspect you which is what I have done. My suspicion of you is not as random as you're trying to make it out to be.
I talked about you before TAC asked about you. I originally had you as a neutral read until asked about you, and then you can see my thought process in this post developing an FoS:
And when have you ever seen me make a full-blown case on someone who I didn't plan to lynch? I'll make a read and note my reasons why I suspect you which is what I have done. My suspicion of you is not as random as you're trying to make it out to be.
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@oddoddfruit what were you trying to do with your vote on me at EoD?
Now that AL has flipped GF, I think it's time to look into TAC and yeet him tbh.
TAC has on more than one occasion defended AL and tried to nip in the bud any form of suspicion directed at him
As it can clearly be observed in the above quotes, whenever someone brought up Al-TAC was there to defend him. He has repeatedly shown resistance towards Al's wagon. I think I don't really need to elaborate any further here tbh, it's all clearly visible.
TAC doesn't stop there.
He, firstly, sets up AL for a claim.
Starts setting up alternative wagons
And then we have these 2 posts
Look at it. Just look at it. This man isn't even trying to be subtle about it. He's clearly setting up a counterwagon on Prof and giving Al a way out.
We've already had a myriad of interactions and info to be gained from AL's flip, but TAC is out here tryna start a counterwagon on a low post player who hasn't had nearly the amount of interactions nor thoughts shared on them while Al is a hot topic.
Ponders if anyone will CC Al. Good way to lure out the actual BG tbh if there is any, and remove him at night so not to get killed.
Makes this post
And then a minute later votes up Al
Follows it up when he answer Drago, who asked him what changed his mind that badly since he was very pro Al earlier
Follows up that post and responds to Rej that if no one claims they blocked AL he's gonna double down on him.
TAC here is clearly giving himself a way out and a chance to remove his vote. AL said he got rb'ed twice, Cinera later confirmed he blocked AL. TAC as Al's buddy knows Al was blocked, so he's cleverly giving himself a reason for removing his vote from Al.
And surprise surprise, he does that
Moving on.
Ekko asks him to explain why he thinks Al is town
To which TAC responds that he's merely against Drago's reasons, but we know that's not true from the quotes above. He's clearly been against Al's wagon.
And ignores the question about why he thinks Al is town.
And then look at this vote
Fujitora could see that this is a bus vote lmao.
Al's getting lynched. Attempts at starting counterwagons have failed. TAC cannot corroborate his town/townish read of Al. He throws this vote that reeks of bussing lmao.
In conclusion, the key points:
> Heavily against AL's lynch
> Showing resistance to it during multiple stages
> Trying to find an alternative and move away from Al at all costs
> Proposing a lynch on Prof who was very low post and devoid of any interactions
> Very poor reactions and votes when it came to the AL wagon
Vote lynch TAC
TAC has on more than one occasion defended AL and tried to nip in the bud any form of suspicion directed at him
As it can clearly be observed in the above quotes, whenever someone brought up Al-TAC was there to defend him. He has repeatedly shown resistance towards Al's wagon. I think I don't really need to elaborate any further here tbh, it's all clearly visible.
TAC doesn't stop there.
He, firstly, sets up AL for a claim.
Starts setting up alternative wagons
And then we have these 2 posts
Look at it. Just look at it. This man isn't even trying to be subtle about it. He's clearly setting up a counterwagon on Prof and giving Al a way out.
We've already had a myriad of interactions and info to be gained from AL's flip, but TAC is out here tryna start a counterwagon on a low post player who hasn't had nearly the amount of interactions nor thoughts shared on them while Al is a hot topic.
Ponders if anyone will CC Al. Good way to lure out the actual BG tbh if there is any, and remove him at night so not to get killed.
Makes this post
And then a minute later votes up Al
Follows it up when he answer Drago, who asked him what changed his mind that badly since he was very pro Al earlier
Follows up that post and responds to Rej that if no one claims they blocked AL he's gonna double down on him.
TAC here is clearly giving himself a way out and a chance to remove his vote. AL said he got rb'ed twice, Cinera later confirmed he blocked AL. TAC as Al's buddy knows Al was blocked, so he's cleverly giving himself a reason for removing his vote from Al.
And surprise surprise, he does that
Moving on.
Ekko asks him to explain why he thinks Al is town
To which TAC responds that he's merely against Drago's reasons, but we know that's not true from the quotes above. He's clearly been against Al's wagon.
And ignores the question about why he thinks Al is town.
And then look at this vote
Fujitora could see that this is a bus vote lmao.
Al's getting lynched. Attempts at starting counterwagons have failed. TAC cannot corroborate his town/townish read of Al. He throws this vote that reeks of bussing lmao.
In conclusion, the key points:
> Heavily against AL's lynch
> Showing resistance to it during multiple stages
> Trying to find an alternative and move away from Al at all costs
> Proposing a lynch on Prof who was very low post and devoid of any interactions
> Very poor reactions and votes when it came to the AL wagon
Vote lynch TAC
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