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I am not sure I follow here. If by facilitating between players you mean going after more players then yeah of course I did that, I've had multiple people I've suspected. I am also not sure what you mean by bland questioning, I always question people that way.
By facilitating what is meant is a moderator vibe and role. It's basically an easy way for people to engage with people and fake contribution. Going after plenty of people is alright, I've also scumread plenty throughout this game so far lol. By bland questioning I mean, questions that aren't really pertinent and that I don't see being used to reach conclusions and progress your reads. Just faking contribution through them.
I also disagree here. I've asked multiple people to explain themselves, claim when needed, and share their thoughts. I am trying to figure out stuff. And I disagree on the conviction part. How does that make sense when without me tagging the players and getting them to vote, which you can see in my ISO, we most likely wouldn't have even had a lynch at all?
You did those stuff, but I just don't see them reflected into your progressions. I mean asking people to explain themselves and claim is just basic stuff, I don't see you using that to solve. Feel free to disagree but I just don't see your convictions in most of your interactions, it's all very safe. I don't think tagging and trying to get people to vote takes that much of conviction, especially since it was a common consensus lynch at that point, it's a nice action but not worth much especially if you ain't associated.
I am not sure how to answer this lol.
You don't have to. It's just my take on your work so far, answering it wouldn't change anything. It'll develop based on your continued play.
This speaks to the first point about questioning and lack of convictions behind your pushes. The thought process is in the development of reads, and engaging peeps with questioning to figure them out, not just faking contribution. Lack of convictions speaks to "no skin in the game" thingy 'cause like there is an emotional aspect of when you got a read and want someone dead lol.
This is also not true at all lol. Cinera was the leading wagon, when I switched my vote on Al, whom I've suspected
We were stuck on a wagon that wasn't going anywhere, the phase was kinda dead, and people didn't care. I switched to AL, pushed it, got the lynch, and we got rid of a scum. I did advance the game, and advanced to a lynch of a person I suspected, and got it right.
By consensus I meant that a lot of people were suspecting AL as well, and votes were going in that direction after Cinera's claim. It's what prompted Al to claim. It's why I have you as coven's deep wolf lol.
Which part are you referring to in the latter post?

That's basically my stlye of questioning people. I like to get them talking on the subjects that interest me, and I dislike parroting.
Latter post refers to the quote to Rej. I think the "you're doing this scummy shit" is just not a town mindset at all, the way you're engaging him feels like you know he likely ain't scum and the point didn't actually ping you which makes the comment all that weirder.

As for your style of questioning, never played with you so that's good to now.

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Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
That's the 4th expasion pack right?

So that's why you been MIA from the forums


I really wish I could play Ratchet. The way you're speaking of it makes me miss those days where I played FF.

Stories that touch our heart
Ya, it's the fourth. Legit no-lifed it the week it came out, took the week off work and all. But all in good time my man, you have a heck of a ride in front of you (and I don't want to overhype it tooooooooo much)
 
That's not the whole time. It came near the end of the phase. Before that, I didn't suspect you.

I don't remember saying I was the one to lead the lynch. I said that I was the one who first suspected Al, not that I lead the lynch.
It definitey wasn’t the end of the phase lol go back and check from when I voted to push and when you mentioned it and then how much time was still left in phase. Leading lynch means started lynch, miswording sorry
 
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Dragomir

You think AL's scum buddies do that?
From the looks of it, yes? I can't answer this question definitively since I have no idea what his buddies would do. I'm just making an assessment using my own knowledge about scum tells and buddy-buddy interactions.
 
Check out my posts questioning TAC and give me your thoughts on them.
I talked about it a bit. TAC going against his PoV that has Don has confirmed scum since claiming a non-visiting role, isn't a condemnation on him. Think it's just a brainfart and him jobbing lol, because it makes zero sense for an Exe to give his target a night to confirm themselves and at the same time fucking himself up by contradicting his PoV. Same if he's scum and not Exe, why come up with a fake result out of the blue with Don who doesn't seem to be a big threat. 1v1 exchange is dumb

Only way TAC is scum is if Don is scum too, so he snipped a rival faction and wanted to get cred, that's it. So you always solve Don first.

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Dragomir

Only thing that holds me on drago is how he is leading. So I find it less likely he is part of a team and prob the jug. Doesn’t mean he isn’t, but with this big a game would be weird to draw too much attention to himself. So I have him lower on the list
Jugg died.
 
By facilitating what is meant is a moderator vibe and role. It's basically an easy way for people to engage with people and fake contribution. Going after plenty of people is alright, I've also scumread plenty throughout this game so far lol. By bland questioning I mean, questions that aren't really pertinent and that I don't see being used to reach conclusions and progress your reads. Just faking contribution through them.

You did those stuff, but I just don't see them reflected into your progressions. I mean asking people to explain themselves and claim is just basic stuff, I don't see you using that to solve. Feel free to disagree but I just don't see your convictions in most of your interactions, it's all very safe. I don't think tagging and trying to get people to vote takes that much of conviction, especially since it was a common consensus lynch at that point, it's a nice action but not worth much especially if you ain't associated.

You don't have to. It's just my take on your work so far, answering it wouldn't change anything. It'll develop based on your continued play.

This speaks to the first point about questioning and lack of convictions behind your pushes. The thought process is in the development of reads, and engaging peeps with questioning to figure them out, not just faking contribution. Lack of convictions speaks to "no skin in the game" thingy 'cause like there is an emotional aspect of when you got a read and want someone dead lol.


By consensus I meant that a lot of people were suspecting AL as well, and votes were going in that direction after Cinera's claim. It's what prompted Al to claim. It's why I have you as coven's deep wolf lol.

Latter post refers to the quote to Rej. I think the "you're doing this scummy shit" is just not a town mindset at all, the way you're engaging him feels like you know he likely ain't scum and the point didn't actually ping you which makes the comment all that weirder.

As for your style of questioning, never played with you so that's good to now.

Thanks Zemmi & Flower
I can see this as a coven deep wolf. Thoughts on drago? He started the push on al using vamp possibility. But continued and didn’t really use argument later other then riding the train. Seemed like he knew al role. Atleast based on Al trial talk which I doubt was a lie
 
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Dragomir

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Dragomir

It definitey wasn’t the end of the phase lol go back and check from when I voted to push and when you mentioned it and then how much time was still left in phase. Leading lynch means started lynch, miswording sorry
I'll get back to you on this later.
 
I haven't finished reading everything today and I'm down for an Alibaba lynch. If I was in his position I would have immediately claimed my role and actions to clear up the confusion and move on with other discussion. TAC made a good point on day 1 he was trying to get Prof lynched and he wouldn't do that as an exe.

@novaselinenever It has been a long time since I have last played with you and I remember most of my games I have played with you we have both been town in one game and all of my other games with you whenever I'm town you're either mafia or indep and when you're town I'm either mafia or indep. Are you town?
 
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Dragomir

I didn’t focus on the vamp argument, it was after when you didn’t really follow with it. It was the basicaly following along. That’s my point.
I can see this as a coven deep wolf. Thoughts on drago? He started the push on al using vamp possibility. But continued and didn’t really use argument later other then riding the train. Seemed like he knew al role. Atleast based on Al trial talk which I doubt was a lie
This is wrong. I have mentioned it multiple times after I initially questioned Al. In one instance, I tried convincing TAC to vote, I brought it up there. I never rode the train as you're implying. I was telling people to vote Al and asking their thoughts on Al. Nick, your case is literally based on incorrect reasoning.
 

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How far I'll go...
btw everyone pls right now go to ur role pms and right a death note

we lost last ToL cuz half town didnt write anything and it was torture to guess what everyone did

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This is wrong. I have mentioned it multiple times after I initially questioned Al. In one instance, I tried convincing TAC to vote, I brought it up there. I never rode the train as you're implying. I was telling people to vote Al and asking their thoughts on Al. Nick, your case is literally based on incorrect reasoning.
Bringing it up and actually pushing it is 2 different things. I feel like you are missing my points and arguing things you want to argue here. But for today you really aren’t a main target and there a much better options, I shall put this aside until later!
 
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