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I think that in the final fight kaido will release his awakening form and that luffy will unveil a new G4 which will totally dominate kaido

so fin wano the most powerful form and attack of luffy >> the most powerful of kaido

but he will surely not be able to maintain this capacity for long
if luffy has to use the strongest technique which cant last for long on a kaido that has been damaged by not just him but other people
then right there you have explained why you cant have luffy >>> kaido eow
 
zoro talks about being the wss
the guarantee is being stronger than the strongest swordsman alive (mihawk)
I actually get it now, Zoro fans are generally okay with Luffy being stronger. What they can’t come to terms with is how Zoro will rank amongst Luffy’s opponents as well. Like Kaido, BB, Akainu, and Imu.
It’s okay for me to put all these guys in the same tier, but Zoro fans want affirmation that Zoro is equal or only slightly worse than Luffy and to be solid top 2 in rankings. It’s hard for that to be the case when Luffy goes up against these characters extreme diff.
 
his crew isnt dogshit
he has killer ??

if they take down big mom the L magnet meme might not work anymore
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luffy wont be >> kaido
he will struggle to beat him to the end
as with lucci
doffy
katakuri
What you talking about
It s 2 v1 against meme
And his crew is dogshit
Killer might be strong rest are trash
Just like law crew ass
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
Oda wrote it. You are making it sound like two seperate authors wrote this manga:lawsigh:
So ? Chinjao doesn't know shit.
Every bullshit line used is a lie.
We've seen Roger become king
He stole a copy from meme something Brook did
Begged his rival for oden or else he'd have done nothing
And everything else fell into his lap in no time beating no one on the way
That's pirate king
 

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I actually get it now, Zoro fans are generally okay with Luffy being stronger. What they can’t come to terms with is how Zoro will rank amongst Luffy’s opponents as well. Like Kaido, BB, Akainu, and Imu.
It’s okay for me to put all these guys in the same tier, but Zoro fans want affirmation that Zoro is equal or only slightly worse than Luffy and to be solid top 2 in rankings. It’s hard for that to be the case when Luffy goes up against these characters extreme diff.
Are you new here??? They believe Luffy is inferior to Zoro. You even have some going as far as saying current Luffy can't defeat Pica and Mr 1 from Alabasta. They also believe Zoro will end up stronger than WB:yasu:
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
Are you new here??? They believe Luffy is inferior to Zoro. You even have some going as far as saying current Luffy can't defeat Pica and Mr 1 from Alabasta. They also believe Zoro will end up stronger than WB:yasu:
Zoro will be the strongest swordsman ever in one piece. So above wbs equal. And by extension wb
 
reaching the heaven doesnt imply he will be the strongest swordsman ever
but am aware he said that or similar specifically in the past
sanji also said he would be the one marines fear the most
i dont take everyone of these sentences as absolute truths.
the basis for comparison is blurrier with older legends like ryuuma and roger
with oden you can be sure he will be better with enma, making it a black blade
you can be sure he will be stronger than swordsmasters that are alive (mihawk, shanks etc)

since his eos goal mihawk isnt stronger than roger
the grounds to comparison is blurry .
I mean you're free to interpret that how you want to. But in my mind reaching the heavens means indisputably leaving a legendary mark on the history of earth that even the heavens will know of you. Not every wss leaves such a mark on history, otherwise every generation another random person reaches such a lofty claim.

I see Zoro essentially as a second shounen mc, and you know how it is for mc's. I'm also not arguing that Zoro is stronger than Luffy if it feels like I'm overwanking Zoro.
 
Kaido and BM didn't show internal destruction either but that doesn't mean his CoA potency is above them lol. Internal Destruction is an advance application of it, but it doesn't make your general CoA potency better lol. Zoro's CoA potency feats vs Kaido are above Luffy's general CoA feats. As for barrier, Zoro showed it, too. His feats of CoA against Kaido + the hakai feat is head and shoulder above Luffy's feats while using same variation of CoA. Sure, he has internal destruction, and that's advance stuff, but it doesn't translate into CoA potency. Zoro's CoA can still be more potent without ID.

Luffy was huffing and puffing in 10 minutes into fight vs Katakuri, too. Characters huff and puff all the time lol. It doesn't mean Luffy's more enduring- Thriller Bark proved that Zoro's pain tolerance and endurance is far more monstrous than King stuff.


No scabbards outside of Sulong Neko, Inu and the combined Togen Totsuka (which had Sulong Inu) managed to cut Kaido's dragon scales, no?
it means his mastery of coa is better than theirs (big mom , kaido)
they are physical abominations at their base so quite frankly thats expected .


"Zoro's CoA potency feats vs Kaido are above Luffy's general CoA feats. As for barrier, Zoro showed it, too. His feats of CoA against Kaido + the hakai feat is head and shoulder above Luffy's feats while using same variation of CoA."

define what you mean by coa potency.
 
if luffy has to use the strongest technique which cant last for long on a kaido that has been damaged by not just him but other people
then right there you have explained why you cant have luffy >>> kaido eow
Current Luffy is more damaged and fatigued than current Kaido.
Make both of them fresh and give Luffy his CURRENT UNDERSTANDING AND POWERLEVEL and it becomes an easier fight for Luffy.
 
Are you new here??? They believe Luffy is inferior to Zoro. You even have some going as far as saying current Luffy can't defeat Pica and Mr 1 from Alabasta. They also believe Zoro will end up stronger than WB:yasu:
You can actually get a decent conversation from some, once in a blue moon :goatasure:. Logic just goes outside the window most of time when fandoms get heated
 


That bruise on marco doesn't go away.
When have admiral been able to do this much damage to Marco without cheap shotting him when he's not evne in his pheonix form?
Damaging Marco permanently has nothing to do with Ryuou. He can heal every possible wound and even non-Ryuou attacks will damage him.
Here Marco was getting tired so he couldn't heal these injuries.
 
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