This thread isn't meant to expose anyone's stupidity or anything like that even so it does exactly that as a side effect but i just feel like some members of the one piece community need some clarification of how haki and logia abilities actually work.
I came to that conclusion after @Erkan12 happened to make this statement talking about Akainu vs Aokiji:
This is solid proof that @Erkan12 and possibly others who have similar level of intellect are actually incapable of comprehending basic concepts that Oda wrote into his manga.
So i'm just gonna explain to you guys real quick how it actually works.
In order to hit a logia devil fruit user you either need haki or you need something to somehow bypass the logia intangibility.
Bypassing logia intangibility without haki is only possible by either somehow negating or disabling the properties of the Logia devil fruit ability.
The yami yami no mi for example can disable the properties of Logia abilities when making contact with it and is therefore the only ability that allows to hurt Logia devil fruit users without haki.
The other instance where a Logia User was hurt without haki was possible by negating the properties of the logia fruit and that was Rubber vs Lightning.
The reason why Luffy was able to hit and hurt Enel without haki despite the latter being a logia devil fruit user was because Rubber is an insulator for lightning.
Rubber limits the transfer of electricity by preventing the electrons to be able to freely move and freely moving is what allows a logia ability to be intangible.
Therefore if Luffy's rubber body makes contact with Enel's lightning body, the properties of the lightning logia fruit will be negated.
That means whatever part of Enel's body Luffy hits, won't be able to turn into Lightning and will instead be Enel's actual body.
In Akainu's and Aokiji's case their devil fruit abilities neither negate nor disable each others properties.
Whether Akainu hits Aokiji with a magma fist or Aokiji hits Akainu with an Ice Spear, without haki it won't hit their actual bodies since neither Magma nor Ice negate/disable the properties of their respective elements.
It's no different to a bullet or a sword going through them.
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I came to that conclusion after @Erkan12 happened to make this statement talking about Akainu vs Aokiji:
This is solid proof that @Erkan12 and possibly others who have similar level of intellect are actually incapable of comprehending basic concepts that Oda wrote into his manga.
So i'm just gonna explain to you guys real quick how it actually works.
In order to hit a logia devil fruit user you either need haki or you need something to somehow bypass the logia intangibility.
Bypassing logia intangibility without haki is only possible by either somehow negating or disabling the properties of the Logia devil fruit ability.
The yami yami no mi for example can disable the properties of Logia abilities when making contact with it and is therefore the only ability that allows to hurt Logia devil fruit users without haki.
The other instance where a Logia User was hurt without haki was possible by negating the properties of the logia fruit and that was Rubber vs Lightning.
The reason why Luffy was able to hit and hurt Enel without haki despite the latter being a logia devil fruit user was because Rubber is an insulator for lightning.
Rubber limits the transfer of electricity by preventing the electrons to be able to freely move and freely moving is what allows a logia ability to be intangible.
Therefore if Luffy's rubber body makes contact with Enel's lightning body, the properties of the lightning logia fruit will be negated.
That means whatever part of Enel's body Luffy hits, won't be able to turn into Lightning and will instead be Enel's actual body.
In Akainu's and Aokiji's case their devil fruit abilities neither negate nor disable each others properties.
Whether Akainu hits Aokiji with a magma fist or Aokiji hits Akainu with an Ice Spear, without haki it won't hit their actual bodies since neither Magma nor Ice negate/disable the properties of their respective elements.
It's no different to a bullet or a sword going through them.
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@Fleet Admiral Lee Hung @GreenEggsAHam
@LANJI CUCKSMOKE @MarineHQ62 @Midnight Delight @VersusPhD @God D usopp @Owl Ki @Blackbeard @TheKnightOfTheSea @silverfire @kenedyfake @Finalbeta @God Tier Sovereignty @Le Fishe D. Crydo @Van @ranady @The White Crane @AkainuTheGrimReaper
