General & Others Power of favoritism > power of friendship

Peroroncino

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#41
After many months or even years shit talking and saying shit like Zoro isnt a conqueror and CoC is for Luffy only, how did that turn out? :gokulaugh:Your awful headcannon stopped you from seeing something so obvious that now you cant even accept it lmao you truly are LNdule:milaugh:mf thinks Katakuri is strongest YC1, that straight up tells you how tapped your takes are:suresure:
did you change your name?
 
#44
If Oda had Zoro 'fairly' learn CoC like Luffy from Wano onwards it'd take too long and we'd realistically never see it mastered by eos. If Zoro mastered it too soon he'd be a Conqueror's prodigy in comparison to Luffy which you wouldn't find acceptable. If Zoro awakened CoC pre-ts like Luffy and had 2 years to master it's basic form you'd complain he's taking too much of Luffy's thunder.
 

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#45
If Oda had Zoro 'fairly' learn CoC like Luffy from Wano onwards it'd take too long and we'd realistically never see it mastered by eos. If Zoro mastered it too soon he'd be a Conqueror's prodigy in comparison to Luffy which you wouldn't find acceptable. If Zoro awakened CoC pre-ts like Luffy and had 2 years to master it's basic form you'd complain he's taking too much of Luffy's thunder.
they wanted zoro to not have coc so they can pretend he's equal to sanji:suresure:
 
#52
zoroboys also have that complexity cause in reality you guys are losers scrawny little men
You write this when you have that faggoty ass bitch avatar? :kobeha:
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Remember threads like this one before you make a LΒͺnji has CoC thread, no kingly ambitions, not a King, not a conqueror, only the most retarded of asspulls could change this. :myman:
 
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#54
Zoro went through a training arc in Act 2 when he first acquired Enma, where he had to learn to control the Ryuo constantly flowing out. Zoro also already demonstrated barrier CoA in fishman island, meaning he knew about how to flow his haki outward already.

Hyogoro described the ryuo he was teaching Luffy almost verbatim how Koushirou described the Breath of All Things to Zoro, meaning Zoro had experience with/knowledge of this type of haki transfer pattern even if he didn't previously know it (Luffy went a step further by learning internal destruction, but the first step of the training was learning CoA flow/emission). On top of that, Zoro got hit with a CoC-infused thunder bagua and heard Luffy's words about coating yourself in it right before Law took him off the rooftop. Furthermore, Zoro's status as a swordsman may help him more easily apply the concept of flowing haki out of his body compared to Luffy who directly infuses his body--this part is headcanon, but it follows logic

All of these things most likely made it way easier for Zoro to apply ACoC to his arsenal even if he had no prior experience or knowledge with it. The King fight also seemed to show elements of Zoro coming to terms with being a "King" or a conqueror himself--something that he may likely have already known but did not want to acknowledge because he was okay with just being in the shadows behind Luffy as long as he could both support Luffy and strive towards his own goal separately
 
#55
Jesus christ the amount of toxicity on this thread could give someone cancer

Anyways, no, adv coc is not an asspull in zoro's case because he has enma

Enma is more or less a beginner's tool for adv coc, he just needs to have a strong haki and enma will channel it for him, but it also nerfs zoro because he can only use it for a few minutes before straight up dying

Oda doesn't give a shit about powerscaling and you can see the effect of this on this forum, 90% of the arguments about powerscaling are headcanons, portrayals or statements

He doesn't really play favorites when it comes to powerscaling, everyone has their spots in terms of strength narrative wise, and nothing can change that
 
#57
Even if Zoro didn’t know he had CoC as well as suddenly getting advCoC fact of the matter is Oda rushed such waste of time to PU Zoro for his next stage. It doesn’t matter and we shouldn’t bother of trying to make sense of it. Just move on and take the hype that comes with such power.
 
#58
It can be explained in a way. CoC can't be trained and depends on the user's strength, Wano Zoro is a million times stronger than pre TS Luffy and any version of post TS Luffy that precedes Wano arc.
 
#59
That is because Zoro is kinda stupid. I mean, look at Luffy having CoC withut knowing about it or how to control it pre timeskip.

Zoro had haki since Alabasta and no one knew it was haki lol.

So Zoro having it aint bad since he might have shown it, but we just didnt know or he didnt know.
 
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