List the following characters

#1
Rank these characters in terms of power level

CC: Kallavan (two versions: CC Kallavan and current version), Yas, Lyb
Slayers: Yama (two versions: Yama and fang Yama), prime White
Heroes: Dowon and Cha
Natives: Eva and Khel (two versions)
BH: Dokoko, Yorari (8th son), Holand (future BH), and the strongest trio
Princess: Maschenny-sama, Yuri-chan, Garam-san
Others: Jinsung, Kuhn Elliot, prime Doom


My list:

1. Full Khel
2. Garam
3. Full Eva
4. Owl
5. Horse
6. Current Kallavan
7. Maschenny (maybe higher, i'm not sure)
8. Widow
9. Current Yama
10. Half bull Khel
11. Holand
12. Prime White
13. Elliot
14. 8th son
15. Kallavan
16. Jinsung
17. Half elephant Eva
18. Lyb
19. Yas
20. Yama
21. Cha
22. Dowon
23. Dokoko
24. Yuri (maybe higher, i'm not sure)
25. Prime Doom

 
#2
A good portion of those characters are on the same general level and IMO, the result of their respective match-ups depends more on compatibility than anything else (even if A beats B and B beats C, this doesn't mean C necessarily has to lose against A).

Not to mention, the lack of feats. A lot of these characters are either featless or have yet to go all-out, which makes this even more difficult. I'm not going to do a ranking like this. Instead, I'm gonna group them into tiers and without any concrete order.

(+): Suggests the character is above the average for the tier and could perhaps be placed above (although this last thing is not necessarily always the case).

(-): Suggests the character is below the average for the tier and could perhaps be placed below (although this last thing is not necessarily always the case).

If there's none of these two is because I believe the character is around the average for that tier. "?" means I'm uncertain about their placement for now.

Tier 1 - On a whole another level from Army Corps Commanders
  • Khel Hellam (Full Release) (?)
  • Evankhell (Full Release) (?)
Tier 2 - Above Army Corps Commander Tier
  • Khun Maschenny Zahard (+?)
  • Kallavan (Current; Beyond Limits)
  • Prime White (Beyond Limits, if we count it as a separate form)
  • Baylord Yama (2 Fangs) (-?)
Tier 3 - Army Corps Commander Tier
  • Khel Hellam (Partial Release) (+)
  • Decompressed Evankhell (Partial Release) (+)
  • Lo Po Bia Pudidy (Owl) (+?)
  • Lo Po Bia Perseus (Horse) (+?)
  • Lo Po Bia Whitegarment Widow (Spider) (+?)
  • Garam Zahard (+?)
  • Lo Po Bia Holand (+?)
  • Prime White (Normal Form)
  • Kallavan (CC)
  • Po Bidau Lyborick Khun
  • Lo Po Bia Yasratcha
  • Khun Royale Elliot
  • Ha Jinsung (-)
  • Baylord Yama (1 Fang) (-)
Tier 4 - Below Army Corps Commander Tier
  • Lo Po Bia Yorari (+)
  • Cha
  • Dowon (-)
Tier 5 - Far Below Army Corps Commander Tier
  • Lo Po Bia Dokoko (+)
  • Prime Doom (?)
  • Entry Top 300 (-)
Tier 6 - Beneath Entry Top 300
  • Ha Yuri Zahard
 

Cinera

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#3
A good portion of those characters are on the same general level and IMO, the result of their respective match-ups depends more on compatibility than anything else (even if A beats B and B beats C, this doesn't mean C necessarily has to lose against A).

Not to mention, the lack of feats. A lot of these characters are either featless or have yet to go all-out, which makes this even more difficult. I'm not going to do a ranking like this. Instead, I'm gonna group them into tiers and without any concrete order.

(+): Suggests the character is above the average for the tier and could perhaps be placed above (although this last thing is not necessarily always the case).

(-): Suggests the character is below the average for the tier and could perhaps be placed below (although this last thing is not necessarily always the case).

If there's none of these two is because I believe the character is around the average for that tier. "?" means I'm uncertain about their placement for now.

Tier 1 - On a whole another level from Army Corps Commanders
  • Khel Hellam (Full Release) (?)
  • Evankhell (Full Release) (?)
Tier 2 - Above Army Corps Commander Tier
  • Khun Maschenny Zahard (+?)
  • Kallavan (Current; Beyond Limits)
  • Prime White (Beyond Limits, if we count it as a separate form)
  • Baylord Yama (2 Fangs) (-?)
Tier 3 - Army Corps Commander Tier
  • Khel Hellam (Partial Release) (+)
  • Decompressed Evankhell (Partial Release) (+)
  • Lo Po Bia Pudidy (Owl) (+?)
  • Lo Po Bia Perseus (Horse) (+?)
  • Lo Po Bia Whitegarment Widow (Spider) (+?)
  • Garam Zahard (+?)
  • Lo Po Bia Holand (+?)
  • Prime White (Normal Form)
  • Kallavan (CC)
  • Po Bidau Lyborick Khun
  • Lo Po Bia Yasratcha
  • Khun Royale Elliot
  • Ha Jinsung (-)
  • Baylord Yama (1 Fang) (-)
Tier 4 - Below Army Corps Commander Tier
  • Lo Po Bia Yorari (+)
  • Cha
  • Dowon (-)
Tier 5 - Far Below Army Corps Commander Tier
  • Lo Po Bia Dokoko (+)
  • Prime Doom (?)
  • Entry Top 300 (-)
Tier 6 - Beneath Entry Top 300
  • Ha Yuri Zahard
I think your `(-)` modifier for Jinsung is unjustified. Of Jinsung, SIU said:
  • Even with his arms shattered, his match with Kallavan could have gone either way.
  • Kallavan was very fortunate that Maschenny showed up when she did.
    • He literally said: "the Heavens were smiling on Kallavan" with Maschenny's appearance.
    • Again, this was after Jinsung's arms were shattered.
SIU clearly doesn't place Jinsung as low as you do.

Furthermore, Jinsung is currently arraigned against two Evankhell tier people. A `(+)` modifier is much more warranted than the alternative.


Dowon being higher than Dokoko is also unjustified when she admitted decisive inferiority to one-armed Kallavan even when she was accompanied by White, Baam, So-Oh and co.

She was also grouped with Karaka and they took on a Division Commander together.

Dowon has not merited a placement on the same tier as Cha.


I think the other placements are fine for now. Left to me, I'd bump Garam and Maschenny up a tier, but I'm not going to insist on that.


And I think there are very good chances that I'm overrating Maschenny.



7. Maschenny (maybe higher, i'm not sure)
This makes little sense. Maschenny is one of the strongest 13 Month Princesses:


Considering that there are 8 of them (two of which are ranked #7 and another ranked #36), it is literally impossible for Maschenny to be below Garam.
 
#4
I think your `(-)` modifier for Jinsung is unjustified. Of Jinsung, SIU said:
  • Even with his arms shattered, his match with Kallavan could have gone either way.
  • Kallavan was very fortunate that Maschenny showed up when she did.
    • He literally said: "the Heavens were smiling on Kallavan" with Maschenny's appearance.
    • Again, this was after Jinsung's arms were shattered.
SIU clearly doesn't place Jinsung as low as you do.

Furthermore, Jinsung is currently arraigned against two Evankhell tier people. A `(+)` modifier is much more warranted than the alternative.
Tbh, there's a pretty good chance the "+" and "-" of that tier end up mattering very little since the more I think about it, the more it looks like there are not going to be very significant gaps between the vast majority of people I placed in Tier 3.

Regarding Jinsung, I'm pretty aware of the possibility that I might not be giving him enough credit when I put him on the lower end of the CC Tier. It's just that I found his performance against Kallavan to be pretty lacking (fairly enough Kalla wasn't a good match-up for him and Jinsung didn't want to kill him during most of the fight, but the same applies to Kallavan in this last aspect) and even leaving that aside his hype doesn't put him over CC Tier either:
  • Hwaryun said even a Slayer would have a hard time against him if he was serious and at the same time there should be some gaps among Slayers excluding Luslec; the strongest ones haven't been suggested to be any stronger than CCs yet.
  • He said to Karaka that 1 Fang Yama was incredibly strong.
  • Even after everything he did to him, Kallavan didn't seem to think Jinsung was above him. When comparing Jinsung's arms to his EoV, he came to the conclusion that Jinsung was at best equal to his EoV.
It's certainly possible Jinsung performs much better than he did previously due to those two factors not being there anymore and that I'm forced to put him higher, but I'm still not fully convinced.

Dowon being higher than Dokoko is also unjustified when she admitted decisive inferiority to one-armed Kallavan even when she was accompanied by White, Baam, So-Oh and co.

She was also grouped with Karaka and they took on a Division Commander together.

Dowon has not merited a placement on the same tier as Cha.
I think One-Armed Kallavan is well above Dokoko. At the same time, Elpathion said Kallavan would have a hard time against Dowon with one of his arms tied. Kallavan with one of his arms tied can likely one-shot Karaka with room to spare considering their fight, so yeah, Karaka and Dowon being grouped together doesn't mean anything. Especially not when Cha is being grouped with freaking Regulars and needs some of their help against another Division Commander as well (not that this means anything against him either considering the circumstances; just saying that the argument of them being grouped together means nothing).

Regardless, I put a "+" in Dokoko and a "-" with Dowon, meaning that:

A. Dowon can be placed a tier lower (on the same tier as Dokoko) depending on what she does.
B. Dokoko could potentially be placed a tier above (I doubt this one though).

To summarize: if you look at the signs, you can already tell I believe there's not a very significant gap between the two.
 

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#5
Tbh, there's a pretty good chance the "+" and "-" of that tier end up mattering very little since the more I think about it, the more it looks like there are not going to be very significant gaps between the vast majority of people I placed in Tier 3.

Regarding Jinsung, I'm pretty aware of the possibility that I might not be giving him enough credit when I put him on the lower end of the CC Tier. It's just that I found his performance against Kallavan to be pretty lacking (fairly enough Kalla wasn't a good match-up for him and Jinsung didn't want to kill him during most of the fight, but the same applies to Kallavan in this last aspect) and even leaving that aside his hype doesn't put him over CC Tier either:
  • Hwaryun said even a Slayer would have a hard time against him if he was serious and at the same time there should be some gaps among Slayers excluding Luslec; the strongest ones haven't been suggested to be any stronger than CCs yet.
  • He said to Karaka that 1 Fang Yama was incredibly strong.
  • Even after everything he did to him, Kallavan didn't seem to think Jinsung was above him. When comparing Jinsung's arms to his EoV, he came to the conclusion that Jinsung was at best equal to his EoV.
It's certainly possible Jinsung performs much better than he did previously due to those two factors not being there anymore and that I'm forced to put him higher, but I'm still not fully convinced.
  • Kallavan was shocked out of his mind that Jinsung could stop him and Maschenny with reverse flow control, going as far as to question whether Jinsung was even still human.
  • Kallavan had yet to maximise the full potential of his Essence, so placing Jinsung on par with the Essence doesn't exclude Jinsung from being stronger.
    • He powered up considerably from the Essence during his fight with Lyborick.
  • Jinsung didn't show all he had to offer vs Kallavan.
    • He didn't use any Shinsu Control skills.
    • He refrained from using Floral Butterfly Piercing Technique except for one last attack.
      • And even then, he didn't follow up on said attack.
  • Despite Kallavan completely shattering Jinsung's arms (thus incredibly nerfing him), SIU said:
    • Kallavan was very lucky that Maschenny showed up on the battle.
    • The battle could have gone either way.
    • We have two statements that imply an armless Jinsung would still have given Kallavan one hell of a fight.


At the same time, Elpathion said Kallavan would have a hard time against Dowon with one of his arms tied.
Elpathion is less reliable than Dowon herself.

Dowon already admitted decisive inferiority to one armed Kallavan. Elpathion cannot rescue her from that portrayal.


I think One-Armed Kallavan is well above Dokoko.
  1. Prime White was considerably stronger than one armed Kallavan.
  2. Dokoko was the main ingredient to restore White to his Prime.
  3. Dokoko was said to be "infallible even against Slayers".
  4. Dokoko was said to be one of the mightiest warriors of the Lo Po Bia.

Dokoko not only has considerably better hype than Dowon (again she admitted decisive inferiority to one armed Kallavan), he also has better feats and portrayal as well.

Stage 3 Windbird fused Dokoko (final form) was far beyond the abilities of Doom and Paul to deal with. He lost to a bullet that can oneshot even the Top 100 High Rankers.

I'm very sceptical of your placement here.


Regardless, I put a "+" in Dokoko and a "-" with Dowon, meaning that:

A. Dowon can be placed a tier lower (on the same tier as Dokoko) depending on what she does.
B. Dokoko could potentially be placed a tier above (I doubt this one though).

To summarize: if you look at the signs, you can already tell I believe there's not a very significant gap between the two.
No, I reject your conclusion:
  • Dokoko has better feats than Dowon.
  • Dokoko has better hype than Dowon.
  • Dokoko has better portrayal than Dowon.

I'd place Dokoko above Dowon in a tier list. You're massively underrating him for no good reason. Even when Doom killed pre final form Dokoko, it was a semi prime Doom and he did so using his Fang.
 
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