A generation of weak men

[Charlotte Horchata]

yes, when you make life not a competition to survive you have no winners or loosers

You answered nothing; not even why anybody should make life a competition (for what prize?).

I will give you a real example from my experience: an immigrant man reaches his new country. Barely speaks the language and is living in poverty with no support group. After clinic exam he shows clear symptoms of depression yet rejects any help because he doesn't have the time to be depressed.

So, let's see, some quick questions:

-What is the competition here and what the prize.

-What "winning" and "losing" consists of here; when will this man win or lose and what are the consequences of both.

-To what extent this man is "strong" for not giving up on working to the point of ignoring his mental health, and whether he'd be weak if he stopped to acknowledge it and get help.

You know, real people aren't the caricature of leftists you probably have in mind.

 

[Ballel]

yes, when you make life not a competition to survive you have no winners or loosers

For you life is a competition to survive?

It's a competition you can't win then as you won't survive. No one survives, everyone dies.

 

[Zolo]

For you life is a competition to survive?

It's a competition you can't win then as you won't survive. No one survives, everyone dies.

No , the fittest will remain

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You answered nothing; not even why anybody should make life a competition (for what prize?).

I will give you a real example from my experience: an immigrant man reaches his new country. Barely speaks the language and is living in poverty with no support group. After clinic exam he shows clear symptoms of depression yet rejects any help because he doesn't have the time to be depressed.

So, let's see, some quick questions:

-What is the competition here and what the prize.

-What "winning" and "losing" consists of here; when will this man win or lose and what are the consequences of both.

-To what extent this man is "strong" for not giving up on working to the point of ignoring his mental health, and whether he'd be weak if he stopped to acknowledge it and get help.

You know, real people aren't the caricature of leftists you probably have in mind.

why he went there in the first place?

what makes you look out for recourses? if man had a balls there wouldnt be sheep

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I lived my entire life in extreme poverty, I worked physical labor since I was 8 years old, you grown ups wouldnt be able to work what physical activity I had to endure... what I had to go through to be here where I am, standing still with my head held high.... i didint go to quickes place that promised me golds and riches... I understand from very early I need to make my way on My own... even if that would mean going far away from civilization... living in an island alone or forest.... but to find my way , my life.... not empty promises, depresion becouse failed sociaty... corruption , birocrassy... fake power over other.... supperiority...

 

[Jailer]

@Zolo you can easily go live somewhere in a wild on your own, outside the civilization

 

[Zolo]

@Zolo you can easily go live somewhere in a wild on your own, outside the civilization

I live allready as far away as I can... but governments still want to take away as little as I have

 

[Jailer]

I live allready as far away as I can... but governments still want to take away as little as I have

Well not far enough then, you still can use internet

 

[Zolo]

Well not far enough then, you still can use internet

internet is huge place to gather information, resources. when libraries ban books you still have internet... i dont know what you mean by this comment... but if you give me an island than take away it too, I wouldnt need it anymore

 

[Ballel]

No , the fittest will remain

Survival is an illusion. Everyone dies. You think you're immortal or what?

 

[Charlotte Horchata]

why he went there in the first place?

what makes you look out for recourses? if man had a balls there wouldnt be sheep

I lived my entire life in extreme poverty, I worked physical labor since I was 8 years old, you grown ups wouldnt be able to work what physical activity I had to endure... what I had to go through to be here where I am, standing still with my head held high.... i didint go to quickes place that promised me golds and riches... I understand from very early I need to make my way on My own... even if that would mean going far away from civilization... living in an island alone or forest.... but to find my way , my life.... not empty promises, depresion becouse failed sociaty... corruption , birocrassy... fake power over other.... supperiority...

What means to have "balls" and how the person in my example would have shown them?

I don't care about your personal tale of self-improvement because it's useless: not everybody can nor want to live "as far away as" they can, it's incredibly limited in terms of its reach and doesn't even guarantee me you're a fighter instead of deluding yourself while running away from everything (not saying this is your case, but could be). It also doesn't provide any definition of the concepts you presented nor why other behaviors wouldn't be showings of strength too.

You still haven't given me an operative conceptualization of that "general weakness of man".

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No , the fittest will remain

This is one of the biggest misunderstandings of Darwin's evolutionism and widely promoted by supremacists and laissez faire economists, by the way. It's false and dangerous.

 

[Ballel]

internet is huge place to gather information, resources. when libraries ban books you still have internet..

Which banned books? That sounds like post-communism paranoia.

 

[Zolo]

Which banned books? That sounds like post-communism paranoia.

books been burned, cultures destroyed, shit still happens today

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What means to have "balls" and how the person in my example would have shown them?

I don't care about your personal tale of self-improvement because it's useless: not everybody can nor want to live "as far away as" they can, it's incredibly limited in terms of its reach and doesn't even guarantee me you're a fighter instead of deluding yourself while running away from everything (not saying this is your case, but could be). It also doesn't provide any definition of the concepts you presented nor why other behaviors wouldn't be showings of strength too.

You still haven't given me an operative conceptualization of that "general weakness of man".

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This is one of the biggest misunderstandings of Darwin's evolutionism and widely promoted by supremacists and laissez faire economists, by the way. It's false and dangerous.

Im not telling about self improvement, im telling that people dont know how hard life can physically be... migrate to your broken promises all you want. be a sheep, nobody cares. create your own world where you are right and I am wrong... im not running away from anything, I simply dont need to be around you. But as a human being I still need you and I will support you all , all I can... but you are blind to see what is happening to man... Its all done on porpuse...

 

[NAMELESS]

Maybe it's not even this.
You seem to approach this topic with too much emotion. Everything you dislike or consider ''weak''you call ''leftist''.
It's not that simple. One can't just separate everything into left vs right, things have more complexity to them.

You're looking for an ''enemy' and you find them in the people you call ''leftists''.

Many of the stuff talked about here is communist heritage:Sjw,politically correct,racism(democrats founded KKK,in Brazil high profile left wingers are know to be white and very racist),etc...I'm not trying to find enemies,i just wrote my thought and apparently people perceived me as agressive.

 

[Zolo]

Survival is an illusion. Everyone dies. You think you're immortal or what?

I can be immortal, maybe I am... and so are you... If multiverse is real, you are in the universe where you will live forever... you will die anywhere alse but not in the universe you live... you will get weak, blind, lose hearing... but still remain forever... quantum physics. particles duality

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Many of the stuff talked about here is communist heritage:Sjw,politically correct,racism(democrats founded KKK,in Brazil high profile left wingers are know to be white and very racist),etc...I'm not trying to find enemies,i just wrote my thought and apparently people perceived me as agressive.

we live in times of deceit

 

[NAMELESS]

Old school communists tried to spread their ideology with violence.Modern commies realized this doesn't work,so they switched to cultural war.All attacks that are happening to tradition were engineered.Read Antonio Gramsci.

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I can be immortal, maybe I am... and so are you... If multiverse is real, you are in the universe where you will live forever... you will die anywhere alse but not in the universe you live... you will get weak, blind, lose hearing... but still remain forever... quantum physics. particles duality

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we live in times of deceit

In some way we are,energy doesn't die and the human brain emits frequencies and we do have electrical charge .

 

[Zolo]

Old school communist tried to spread their ideology with violence.Modern commies realized this doesn't work,so they switched to cultural war.All attacks that are happening to tradition were engineered.Read Antonio Gramsci.

They want people to be dependant. Victims...
No more your own property, no more your own car... you will work for someone alse, forget about your own bussiness... when you will have nothing, you will be ruled any way ruler wants....

My brother got vaxxed becouse he has to pay loan.... = he needs hes Job, and Job wants Vax... and for hes speciality there is no escape

Im never taking loans, or anything....

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Banks loan money from governments without huge interest, means they are loaning our money to loan to us with huge interests.... its a comedy, how we help ourselves to enslave us

 

[Ballel]

Many of the stuff talked about here is communist heritage:Sjw,politically correct,racism(democrats founded KKK,in Brazil high profile left wingers are know to be white and very racist),etc...I'm not trying to find enemies,i just wrote my thought and apparently people perceived me as agressive.

I wasn't talking to you I was responding to him.

 

[NAMELESS]

They want people to be dependant. Victims...
No more your own property, no more your own car... you will work for someone alse, forget about your own bussiness... when you will have nothing, you will be ruled any way ruler wants....

My brother got vaxxed becouse he has to pay loan.... = he needs hes Job, and Job wants Vax... and for hes speciality there is no escape

Im never taking loans, or anything....

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Banks loan money from governments without huge interest, means they are loaning our money to loan to us with huge interests.... its a comedy, how we help ourselves to enslave us

I agree ,but be careful with saying"the fittest will survive".People,might think you support Eugenia.Nazis used this to kill off sick and frail people.Darwinian mentality justified a lot of shit.

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I wasn't talking to you I was responding to him.

Ohh my bad

 

[Ballel]

you will die anywhere alse but not in the universe you live... you will get weak, blind, lose hearing... but still remain forever.

That's not a life I want personally.

 

[Zolo]

I agree ,but be careful with saying"the fittest will survive".People,might think you support Eugenia.Nazi used this to kill off sick and frail people.Darwinian mentality justified a lot of shit.

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Ohh my bad

there are people who are unfortunite, and I support them. and I wasnt talking about them.

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That's not a life I want personally.

well, you wont be able to chose. the good part after 100 years of such life, you will become god of a universe. since you will lose all natural senses you will be like on drugs. creating your own universes

 

[NAMELESS]

We are going off topic again.Mods will start deleting comments.Well,at least physically man are living longer,but we are also much more sick and weak.Testosterone is declining,people are fatter,more people are dying from heart attacks/brain hemorrages,more mental illness,we work desk jobs...Modern life has taken a toll on people's health.