Powers & Abilities Enma isnt staying

#41
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manga fact my boys

Sure he'll can in the future, but right now it's all because of enma, there was a entire subplot and a entire chapter dedicated to show that.

Saying otherwise makes all the enma plot pointless and it was just a random nerf for Zoro, this is high level dumbness.

Zoro needed Enma as a catalyst to unlock his ACoC.

He does not need Enma in order to use ACoC now. Why could he distribute it equally across all three swords? Why was he able to consciously infuse ONLY sandai kitetsu with ACoC during the King fight?
 
#42
Zoro needed Enma as a catalyst to unlock his ACoC.

He does not need Enma in order to use ACoC now. Why could he distribute it equally across all three swords? Why was he able to consciously infuse ONLY sandai kitetsu with ACoC during the King fight?
He still needs enma to trigger CoC and then he can use however he likes.

Zoro's coc is a "mode" right now and can't control very well at the moment as he says in 1035 that if he don't end the fight, the sword will kill him.
 

Finalbeta

Zoro Worshipper
#44
Just like the RS, Enma did its job and helped Zoro with his haki control and helped him unlock AdvCoC. Zori losing Enma wont impact him in a detriment kinda way anymore. And now Zori himself became Enma with that King of Hell title. So yh…he dont need it anymore.

I also dont believe hes getting Nidai….unless something happens to Sandai.

What do I think will happen ? He gon get his own Green Sword and name it after his favourite thing…..Sanji.
The only thing Enma truly helped Zoro with was most likely the training stuff.

From an AP perspective once the training was done he would have arguably performed better with Shusui.
 
#47
He still needs enma to trigger CoC and then he can use however he likes.

Zoro's coc is a "mode" right now and can't control very well at the moment as he says in 1035 that if he don't end the fight, the sword will kill him.
Zoro's CoC/ACoC is not a mode. It's base Zoro using that power just like Luffy using CoC in base mode. Zoro's first attack with ACoC wasn't a name attack.


Zoro's King of Hell and 3 sword dragon style are just different styles. The purpose behind it is to tell us when Zoro's is using different types and amounts of haki.

Zoro doesn't need enma to use CoC. He use ACoC with just Sandai Kitetsu.

That scene tells us he is very skilled at using ACoC.

Throughout his battle with King, Zoro was switching between using different amounts and types of haki. He only used large amounts of CoA (swords smoking/steaming) and ACoC when he was attacking King with powerful name attacks.

The reason Zoro stated he can't continue fighting much longer or the sword will kill him had nothing to do with his haki skills.

It was because Zoro was using large amounts of haki even though he was low on haki at the time. Zoro was using that large amount of haki with all three swords.

Zoro has been using large amounts of haki throughout the entire Wano battle. The medicine he took didn't recover his haki or energy. All the medicine really did was just heal his bones. Plus he's been fighting against enma up until that time. All of that left him low on haki.

That's part of the reason I'm excited to see Zoro fight post Wano. His haki amount should be 2 or 3x higher by then.
 
#48
The reason Zoro stated he can't continue fighting much longer or the sword will kill him had nothing to do with his haki skills.

It was because Zoro was using large amounts of haki even though he was low on haki at the time. Zoro was using that large amount of haki with all three swords.
So why he mentions enma (this sword) specifically? Because enma is what makes him capable of using high amounts of haki, including CoC, Oda makes it obvious on the manga, you just don't want to accept.

And no, Zoro can't use adCoC like Luffy because he don't even know he has basic CoC. Enma's magic properties provided this privilege for him, and for limited time, as stated by Zoro's words.
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
#49
So why he mentions enma (this sword) specifically? Because enma is what makes him capable of using high amounts of haki, including CoC, Oda makes it obvious on the manga, you just don't want to accept.
How does HIM GOING ALL OUT on all three swords depend on Enma lmao?

At that point, throw Enma away and give him another sword and he can still go all out on all three swords and it would still kill him if he does so.

And no, Zoro can't use adCoC like Luffy because he don't even know he has basic CoC. Enma's magic properties provided this privilege for him, and for limited time, as stated by Zoro's words.
Ofcourse he does. He knew what COC was back in FMI itself. He didn't know WHAT HE DID on the rooftop, which is probably a crude version of adCOC.

He can use it just like Luffy - example is the Bird Dance attack. You can cry all you want, that ain't changing the canon.
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
#51
So answer, why he mention only enma? Zoro, the first character that will kill himself just for going all out lmao
Because that's the sword which was the catalyst for him unlocking that. Doesn't mean he cannot do that without the sword - ex: Bird Dance.

Zoro ain't the first character to do so - Luffy shaving off his lifespan using G2, Luffy pushing his limits in Marineford, what Kidd and Law are doing right now with their unmastered awakenings.
 
#53
1. Zoro's Haki reserve is not that low. The mink meds doesnt rejuvenate his haki, maybe, but he rested enough. If Luffy needs 10 minutes to refill his haki, Zoro shouldnt be that far.
Reminder, Zoro is haki master too.

2. Zoro can use AdCoC in base, not needing Enma. Enma is just the trigger. Once he figured to let out all of his haki, he familiatized himself with AdCoC. ON other swords too.

3. The getting killed part is also because: (a) Mink meds running out of time (b) Enma distracts him, a small mistake can be fatal
 

Gol D. Roger

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#55
Enma needs CONSTANT COA to be flowed into it. Or at least that's what he did.
That's literally how Enma is said to function i.e., forcibly exuding excess amounts of Ryou—meaning it doesn't suck out COC. Zoro was voluntarily turning COC on and off against King and no limit was ever imposed on his COC. There is no reason whatsoever to say Zoro can't use COC for more than five minutes. Some people are just scared of what he can do if he can fight for extended periods of time with COC, which is not surprising.

What Zoro can't do for too long is to fight while fully releasing his COA without restraint. If he restrains Enma like he was doing in Rooftop fight, then he can, on average, fight at a much higher level than Rooftop by infusing his attacks with COC. Hell, he can completely turn off COA and use only COC to attack akin to Kaido or Yamato. The only thing that changes is that he can't fight at the level he fought against King and he doesn't need that against 99% of OP.
 
#56
That's literally how Enma is said to function i.e., forcibly exuding excess amounts of Ryou—meaning it doesn't suck out COC. Zoro was voluntarily turning COC on and off against King and no limit was ever imposed on his COC. There is no reason whatsoever to say Zoro can't use COC for more than five minutes. Some people are just scared of what he can do if he can fight for extended periods of time with COC, which is not surprising.

What Zoro can't do for too long is to fight while fully releasing his COA without restraint. If he restrains Enma like he was doing in Rooftop fight, then he can, on average, fight at a much higher level than Rooftop by infusing his attacks with COC. Hell, he can completely turn off COA and use only COC to attack akin to Kaido or Yamato. The only thing that changes is that he can't fight at the level he fought against King and he doesn't need that against 99% of OP.
Stop coping.
Enma unleashes ryuo (haki )
The ryuo here isn't ryuo (coA)

Zoro can't even control basic CoC , Enma is the reason why his haki trails were long and strong

Post where Zoro can use more than 3 min without worrying about Enma
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#57
Stop coping.
Enma unleashes ryuo (haki )
The ryuo here isn't ryuo (coA)

Zoro can't even control basic CoC , Enma is the reason why his haki trails were long and strong

Post where Zoro can use more than 3 min without worrying about Enma
If you had the ability to read its all in 1035 where he wasn't using acoc all the time.
But clearly basic comprehension is too difficult for you.
 
#59
Stop coping.
Enma unleashes ryuo (haki )
The ryuo here isn't ryuo (coA)

Zoro can't even control basic CoC , Enma is the reason why his haki trails were long and strong

Post where Zoro can use more than 3 min without worrying about Enma
So Enma created the haki trails that were coming off of Wado and Sandai Kitetsu? Enma forced out Zoro's conqueror's haki and coated his other two swords by itself?
 
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