Powers & Abilities Enma isnt staying
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Everything I said is manga facts. I posted chapter scenes/pages to back up my claim. You are the one posting headcannon.
Swordsman grow stronger by learning to control dangerous/cursed/different swords. Which are just tools for the swordsman to use. A skilled/great swordsman bends to sword to their will and will be able to apply their skills, strength and power to any sword.
He doesn't need enma to use ACoC. That's just the tool he used to grow stronger. It like training with a weighted vest. Zoro stated he would be stronger by the time he is used to it.
Here's Zoro using ACoC with just Sandai.
He doesn't need enma to use KoH style. That's just what the manga calls it when he uses large amounts of (smoking/steaming) CoA haki and ACoC. That will serve a purpose later on after Zoro forge black blades. We will know when he is using blackened haki with his black blades.
Zoro knows about CoC. He just didn't know he had it. Remember, you can't learn CoC, just unlock it. It's like Luffy having CoA but not knowing it can be flowed and him going from that to internal destruction haki.
Ryu is not CoC. Luffy just realized he can release and coat his attacks with CoC. Similar to releasing and coating his body/weapons with CoA.
The following post explains Ryu is not a Wano term for CoC. It's just the term to use for CoA.
He doesn't need enma to use ACoC. That's just the tool he used to grow stronger. It like training with a weighted vest. Zoro stated he would be stronger by the time he is used to it.
Here's Zoro using ACoC with just Sandai.
Swordsman grow stronger by learning to control dangerous/cursed/different swords. Which are just tools for the swordsman to use. A skilled/great swordsman bends to sword to their will and will be able to apply their skills, strength and power to any sword.
He doesn't need enma to use ACoC. That's just the tool he used to grow stronger. It like training with a weighted vest. Zoro stated he would be stronger by the time he is used to it.
Here's Zoro using ACoC with just Sandai.
He doesn't need enma to use KoH style. That's just what the manga calls it when he uses large amounts of (smoking/steaming) CoA haki and ACoC. That will serve a purpose later on after Zoro forge black blades. We will know when he is using blackened haki with his black blades.
Zoro knows about CoC. He just didn't know he had it. Remember, you can't learn CoC, just unlock it. It's like Luffy having CoA but not knowing it can be flowed and him going from that to internal destruction haki.
Ryou and CoC are completely correlated, confirmed in chapter 1010
The following post explains Ryu is not a Wano term for CoC. It's just the term to use for CoA.
More BS from you.
Zoro can use basic CoC and ACoC. He used basic haki against Kaido. Back then you claim he didn't have it because when you see fodder pass out from it even though Kaido said he used it. Now, since Zoro used ACoC you claim it's the swords power. That's pathetic.
This is just "enma has Oden's haki" BS claim all over again. You was proven wrong then and you're proven wrong now.
Enma isn't releasing Zoro's haki. That only happens when he loses control of enma. Zoro ask himself the best way to handle enma. He discovers it's best for him to release large amounts of haki to control enma. He didn't say anything about allowing enma to release his haki.
Zoro release ACoC and is the reason his haki trails are strong and long. We have never seen enma have any effect on the other swords. If enma was the reason we would only see ACoC coming from enma. Not all 3 swords.
Zoro doesn't have a time limit with CoA/ACoC. The reason he can't use it for long during his battle against King was because he was low on haki at the time. He lost large amounts of haki when he lost control of enma and it released large amounts of his haki. That happened 4 times.
Everytime Zoro lost control of enma it forced out so much of his haki his arm shriveled up. The sword tried to release all of Zoro's haki. The blacksmith told us if he was a normal swordsman his entire body would be husk.
A good example of that is Luffy after he runs out of haki from reaching his G4 time limit.
To put the amount of haki he lost into perspective we just need to look at the amount haki Zoro used from the end of chapter 1033.
Until the beginning of chapter 1035.
As you can see Zoro released large amounts of CoA haki and ACoC haki and caoted all three of his swords with it. Neither his arms nor body shriveled up from releasing those large amounts of haki.
Compare that to Zoro losing control of enma near the end of chapter 1032 where his arm does shrivel up from releasing large amounts of haki.
That means more of Zoro's haki was released in the one scene he lost control of enma then from the time he start using ACoC until he defeated King. He probably defeated King in s few to several minutes from the time he start using ACoC. Remember, he lost control of enma four times. That's four times he lost a large amount of haki.
Zoro has insane amount of haki and there is no time limit.
Wrong, Ryu is a term only used to describe CoA haki. It's not used when talking about CoO or CoC. Let's look at manga facts to prove that.
When Asura witnessed Luffy use CoC he didn't call it ryu.
He called it a special trick.
When Hyou witnessed Luffy use CoC he didn't call it ryu.
When Hyou witnessed Luffy use CoO (FS) he didn't call it ryu.
When Luffy tells Hyuo he is trying to release CoA haki from his body. Hyuo tells Luffy haki is a foreign term to him but he describes to Luffy the same type of power Luffy is talking about and how swordsmen use that power.
Next, he gives Luffy a demonstration and Luffy tells him that's what he's talking about.
We can see from the above scenes Luffy is only talking about CoA haki. Not the other types of haki.
Later on in the manga when Hyou is trying to teach Luffy CoA haki. He tells Luffy that Wano calls is Ryu.
The manga even gives us details of how barrier CoA haki and internal destruction CoA haki works.
Ryu is not used for CoO or CoC. Only CoA. There is no scene in the manga will we see a Wano citizen calls CoO or CoC, ryu. That is BS that you made up.
That means when the blacksmith tells us enma forces the user to release large amounts of ryu if they can't control it he's only talking about CoA haki.
No, enma can't release CoC.
Your argument that Zoro can't have ACoC/CoC because he didn't know he had an early it doesn't make any sense. People learn new things all the time. Characters grow stronger in One Piece by learning new power, ability, skill and more. Just like how Luffy didn't have flowing haki earlier and now he does.
Zoro can use basic CoC and ACoC. He used basic haki against Kaido. Back then you claim he didn't have it because when you see fodder pass out from it even though Kaido said he used it. Now, since Zoro used ACoC you claim it's the swords power. That's pathetic.
This is just "enma has Oden's haki" BS claim all over again. You was proven wrong then and you're proven wrong now.
Enma isn't releasing Zoro's haki. That only happens when he loses control of enma. Zoro ask himself the best way to handle enma. He discovers it's best for him to release large amounts of haki to control enma. He didn't say anything about allowing enma to release his haki.
Zoro release ACoC and is the reason his haki trails are strong and long. We have never seen enma have any effect on the other swords. If enma was the reason we would only see ACoC coming from enma. Not all 3 swords.
Zoro doesn't have a time limit with CoA/ACoC. The reason he can't use it for long during his battle against King was because he was low on haki at the time. He lost large amounts of haki when he lost control of enma and it released large amounts of his haki. That happened 4 times.
Everytime Zoro lost control of enma it forced out so much of his haki his arm shriveled up. The sword tried to release all of Zoro's haki. The blacksmith told us if he was a normal swordsman his entire body would be husk.
A good example of that is Luffy after he runs out of haki from reaching his G4 time limit.
To put the amount of haki he lost into perspective we just need to look at the amount haki Zoro used from the end of chapter 1033.
Until the beginning of chapter 1035.
As you can see Zoro released large amounts of CoA haki and ACoC haki and caoted all three of his swords with it. Neither his arms nor body shriveled up from releasing those large amounts of haki.
Compare that to Zoro losing control of enma near the end of chapter 1032 where his arm does shrivel up from releasing large amounts of haki.
That means more of Zoro's haki was released in the one scene he lost control of enma then from the time he start using ACoC until he defeated King. He probably defeated King in s few to several minutes from the time he start using ACoC. Remember, he lost control of enma four times. That's four times he lost a large amount of haki.
Zoro has insane amount of haki and there is no time limit.
Wrong, Ryu is a term only used to describe CoA haki. It's not used when talking about CoO or CoC. Let's look at manga facts to prove that.
When Asura witnessed Luffy use CoC he didn't call it ryu.
He called it a special trick.
When Hyou witnessed Luffy use CoC he didn't call it ryu.
When Hyou witnessed Luffy use CoO (FS) he didn't call it ryu.
When Luffy tells Hyuo he is trying to release CoA haki from his body. Hyuo tells Luffy haki is a foreign term to him but he describes to Luffy the same type of power Luffy is talking about and how swordsmen use that power.
Next, he gives Luffy a demonstration and Luffy tells him that's what he's talking about.
We can see from the above scenes Luffy is only talking about CoA haki. Not the other types of haki.
Later on in the manga when Hyou is trying to teach Luffy CoA haki. He tells Luffy that Wano calls is Ryu.
The manga even gives us details of how barrier CoA haki and internal destruction CoA haki works.
Ryu is not used for CoO or CoC. Only CoA. There is no scene in the manga will we see a Wano citizen calls CoO or CoC, ryu. That is BS that you made up.
That means when the blacksmith tells us enma forces the user to release large amounts of ryu if they can't control it he's only talking about CoA haki.
No, enma can't release CoC.
Your argument that Zoro can't have ACoC/CoC because he didn't know he had an early it doesn't make any sense. People learn new things all the time. Characters grow stronger in One Piece by learning new power, ability, skill and more. Just like how Luffy didn't have flowing haki earlier and now he does.
He doesn't need enma to use ACoC. That's just the tool he used to grow stronger. It like training with a weighted vest. Zoro stated he would be stronger by the time he is used to it.
Here's Zoro using ACoC with just Sandai.
The haki is flowing on all his body, not only in his swords man.
He just use his swords to attack, like luffy luffy use his fists.
Enma exude COA because enma makes the haki flow, it is the entire concept of ryou, so if Zoro has CoC, enma will make CoC flow as well.
Just like luffy remembered about ryou before landing a CoC coating attack on kaido. But luffy didn't needed a mystical weapon to help him, because he already know how to use basic CoC, unlike Zoro.
He just use his swords to attack, like luffy luffy use his fists.
Enma exude COA because enma makes the haki flow, it is the entire concept of ryou, so if Zoro has CoC, enma will make CoC flow as well.
Just like luffy remembered about ryou before landing a CoC coating attack on kaido. But luffy didn't needed a mystical weapon to help him, because he already know how to use basic CoC, unlike Zoro.