Powers & Abilities Sanji’s CoA is strong

#61
Luffy got his skull cracked by sanji but he had no coa?
He used the very first level of CoA, the invisible one. But never the visible black one which we saw on zoro and luffy.

So yes, he used CoA to crack luffys skull but his CoA was very weak until he fought against Queen. Reminder he got his bone broken by vergo who was capable of the visible CoA.
Sanji has her armament haki since the timeskip. Straight up confirmed by Oda
We are talking about different versions of CoA. You mean the invisible veeery basic one to be able to harm DF users right? I am talking about the level after that where you clad yourself with visible black CoA.
Some even say he's used it since pre ts cause that's when he used diable jambe. And you need coa to withstand the heat
Thats simply headcanon and yet you blame me for using headcanon as my argument, even though I just said facts. I might not have been clear enough but now I was clear.
Sanjis used coa since the timeskip as said by luffy. Was also mentioned twice after. I think he used it in wci and you could see cause of the white pants he had on at the wedding
Like I said I don't mean the invisible CoA which is needed to touch logia users. I never said he wouldn't posses that. I mean the next level in which you clad yourself with black visible CoA. Sanji wasn't able to do that until he fought against queen and later on it bloomed.
 
#62
He used the very first level of CoA, the invisible one. But never the visible black one which we saw on zoro and luffy.

So yes, he used CoA to crack luffys skull but his CoA was very weak until he fought against Queen. Reminder he got his bone broken by vergo who was capable of the visible CoA.

We are talking about different versions of CoA. You mean the invisible veeery basic one to be able to harm DF users right? I am talking about the level after that where you clad yourself with visible black CoA.

Thats simply headcanon and yet you blame me for using headcanon as my argument, even though I just said facts. I might not have been clear enough but now I was clear.

Like I said I don't mean the invisible CoA which is needed to touch logia users. I never said he wouldn't posses that. I mean the next level in which you clad yourself with black visible CoA. Sanji wasn't able to do that until he fought against queen and later on it bloomed.
It’s the same thing. The blackening is just a visual effect it’s not a level thing. Besides when Sanjis fighting and using haki his legs are covered through black pants or DJ.
 
#63
It’s the same thing. The blackening is just a visual effect it’s not a level thing. Besides when Sanjis fighting and using haki his legs are covered through black pants or DJ.
It was never explained by Oda but by sheer logic the visible CoA should be a step further than the invisible CoA.

And CoA being the reason for Sanji withstanding or creating DJ is also headcanon even though it sounds logical. At least its the most logical answer to how and why sanji is able to do that.

But Ifrit Jambe on the other hand only works with CoA and his exoskeleton. Thats why its so strong and was able to defeat queen.
 
#64
It was never explained by Oda but by sheer logic the visible CoA should be a step further than the invisible CoA.

And CoA being the reason for Sanji withstanding or creating DJ is also headcanon even though it sounds logical. At least its the most logical answer to how and why sanji is able to do that.

But Ifrit Jambe on the other hand only works with CoA and his exoskeleton. Thats why its so strong and was able to defeat queen.
So everyone was using weak haki in Marineford?
 
#65
So everyone was using weak haki in Marineford?
That was pre ts. We never saw CoA visualised pre ts so I think they even used the next step of CoA but Oda hasn't had an concept for it yet or it simply wasn't introdouced and thats why every CoA which was used in Marineford was kinda invisible. Dunno about that.
 
#66
He used the very first level of CoA, the invisible one. But never the visible black one which we saw on zoro and luffy.

So yes, he used CoA to crack luffys skull but his CoA was very weak until he fought against Queen. Reminder he got his bone broken by vergo who was capable of the visible CoA.

We are talking about different versions of CoA. You mean the invisible veeery basic one to be able to harm DF users right? I am talking about the level after that where you clad yourself with visible black CoA.

Thats simply headcanon and yet you blame me for using headcanon as my argument, even though I just said facts. I might not have been clear enough but now I was clear.

Like I said I don't mean the invisible CoA which is needed to touch logia users. I never said he wouldn't posses that. I mean the next level in which you clad yourself with black visible CoA. Sanji wasn't able to do that until he fought against queen and later on it bloomed.
Bruh you ignored half of what I said.

Sanji clashed coa evenly with king and left black lightning trails. The fuckin panels posted in the first page

You can't see the black because his pants are already fucking black. Reread what I said without ignoring what doesn't fit your headcanon


You said sanji didn't show coa till queen.

This is canonically false
 
#67
That was pre ts. We never saw CoA visualised pre ts so I think they even used the next step of CoA but Oda hasn't had an concept for it yet or it simply wasn't introdouced and thats why every CoA which was used in Marineford was kinda invisible. Dunno about that.
As I said I consider it the same as the water effects in Demon slayer just visual effects for Oda however, with certain color schemes and character that would be ugly or take too long. There’s a reason Oda doesn’t draw Full body haki much. And very early post timeskip Oda showed that the black haki isn’t something like a new level when Smokers “invisible” haki blocked laws blade but Vergos full black haki couldnt.
 
#68
Sanji clashed coa evenly with king and left black lightning trails. The fuckin panels posted in the first page
Well these ''lightning trails'' just were kings fire that got distorted. We saw in the anime that neither King or Sanji used visible CoA.
To be fair they have both black clothing so its hard to see but there was no black lightning at all in the anime when they clashed.
You said sanji didn't show coa till queen.
I meant the visible black CoA type, not the invisible one. Yeah you can argue that he has black pants and thats why. But that would also be headcanon. And just by looking at the visible CoA shown by luffy or Zoro you always see a shining/reflection effect on the blackening. We never saw that on Sanjis legs, even if they are black because of his pants. That dude gotta change his pants into yellow or smth like that so we can differentiate his CoA with his pants. xD
Bruh you ignored half of what I said.
Bruh, I literally answered to all of your claims, not missing one of your sentences. -_-
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As I said I consider it the same as the water effects in Demon slayer just visual effects for Oda however, with certain color schemes and character that would be ugly or take too long. There’s a reason Oda doesn’t draw Full body haki much. And very early post timeskip Oda showed that the black haki isn’t something like a new level when Smokers “invisible” haki blocked laws blade but Vergos full black haki couldnt.
Well, one piece isn't demon slayer now is it? Oda always puts some thoughts on anything he does when he does. Thats why there is no invisible ACoC. Just like hardening (next level of CoA) is being visualised ACoC is also being visualised.
 
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#69
Well these ''lightning trails'' just were kings fire that got distorted. We saw in the anime that neither King or Sanji used visible CoA.
To be fair they have both black clothing so its hard to see but there was no black lightning at all in the anime when they clashed.

I meant the visible black CoA type, not the invisible one. Yeah you can argue that he has black pants and thats why. But that would also be headcanon. And just by looking at the visible CoA shown by luffy or Zoro you always see a shining/reflection effect on the blackening. We never saw that on Sanjis legs, even if they are black because of his pants. That dude gotta change his pants into yellow or smth like that so we can differentiate his CoA with his pants. xD

Bruh, I literally answered to all of your claims, not missing one of your sentences. -_-
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Well, one piece isn't demon slayer now is it? Oda always puts some thoughts on anything he does when he does. Thats why there is no invisible ACoC. Just like hardening (next level of CoA) is being visualised ACoC is also being visualised.
Lmao distorted fire? Anime as a source?

Foh troll. You mad cause exo sanji neggs king
 
#71
Did you really use Sanji blocking weak as Judge and compare it to Doffy catching Laws sword in his bear hands Law who is fighting a Yonko? Lol Sanji has the worst CoA feats in the series.
 
#72
Did you really use Sanji blocking weak as Judge and compare it to Doffy catching Laws sword in his bear hands Law who is fighting a Yonko? Lol Sanji has the worst CoA feats in the series.
Judge defeated Snack, while Zoro need to snuck Apoo to win. That’s some stark a difference when we know Apoo had to flee from WCI territory because of Snack :king::doffytroll:
 
#73
Judge defeated Snack, while Zoro need to snuck Apoo to win. It’s a difference when we know Apoo had to flee from WCI territory because of Snack :king::doffytroll:
First your wrong. But what does that have to do with anything that I said? I didn’t mention Zoro at all? Zoro didn’t sneak Apoo either they were already fighting.

Sanji got his leg cracked by Vergo. Vergo who was one shotted by Law while Vergo was using full body CoA.

Vergo is also the same rank as Pica who used full body CoA against Zoro and Zoro one shotted him.

Sanjis CoA feats are low tier.
 
#74
Lmao distorted fire? Anime as a source?

Foh troll. You mad cause exo sanji neggs king
Sure in your dreams. And you're mad because every of your arguments are based on brainless headcanon stuff while I kinda debunked your shit.

Your avi and signature just shows how ridiculously delusional you are. And this is coming from an schizophrenic person like me xD
 
#75
Zoro didn’t sneak Apoo either they were already fighting
He snuck dude. Take Zoro’s dick out of your ass, he isn’t that great. He loses to Apoo 1vs1
Vergo is also the same rank as Pica who used full body CoA against Zoro and Zoro one shotted him.
Lol Pica is fodder without his fruit. Only if you have your anal cherry plucked by Zoro’s dick and then be one that’s begging for more, can have you think Pica is on same level of Vergo. The rest of us see and experience reality for what it is

plus they didn’t even share same rank, Vergo was Doflamingo’s partner. Pica is no different from Trebol
Sanjis CoA feats are low tier.
He would crush the hand of Black Maria by putting on haki. Sanji has better haki than Zoro that fight with swords, Zoro has swords unlike guys like Luffy who is rubber, Sanji needs to fight with his body, Katakuri who fights with mochi (that’s very soft) they need to work on their CoA, this is how Katakuri got super hard hardening. Zoro has the luxury of already fighting with something hard he doesn’t have need to develop hardening like Sanji and the others
 
#76
Lmao coming from the guy who said kings coa lightning is really distorted fire😂😂😂😂

We see real plasma leaking out of sanjis fire. Cope harder
Sure in your dreams. And you're mad because every of your arguments are based on brainless headcanon stuff while I kinda debunked your shit.

Your avi and signature just shows how ridiculously delusional you are. And this is coming from an schizophrenic person like me xD
 
#77
Well, one piece isn't demon slayer now is it? Oda always puts some thoughts on anything he does when he does. Thats why there is no invisible ACoC. Just like hardening (next level of CoA) is being visualised ACoC is also being visualised.
Then please explain how Smokers invisible haki was stronger than Vergos black haki?
 
#78
Lmao coming from the guy who said kings coa lightning is really distorted fire😂😂😂😂

We see real plasma leaking out of sanjis fire. Cope harder
Its not my problem if anime destroys your delusions. There was no black lightning when sanji and king clashed period. And don't pretend that anime doesn't exist. The anime is an adaptation of the manga and it shows what black and white cannot show. I cant believe how stupid sanji tards like you are. First they use anime as their argument when something good for sanji happens in an filler and when something bad happens they pretend like they never used anime as their argument. xD

And that clash scene from the anime was canon and not filler since they adapted the scene 1 to 1 from the manga. You're so bad on copium its funny. :D
 

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#79
First your wrong. But what does that have to do with anything that I said? I didn’t mention Zoro at all? Zoro didn’t sneak Apoo either they were already fighting.

Sanji got his leg cracked by Vergo. Vergo who was one shotted by Law while Vergo was using full body CoA.

Vergo is also the same rank as Pica who used full body CoA against Zoro and Zoro one shotted him.

Sanjis CoA feats are low tier.
I bet Sanji would have lost to Vergo also.
 
#80
Its not my problem if anime destroys your delusions. There was no black lightning when sanji and king clashed period. And don't pretend that anime doesn't exist. The anime is an adaptation of the manga and it shows what black and white cannot show. I cant believe how stupid sanji tards like you are. First they use anime as their argument when something good for sanji happens in an filler and when something bad happens they pretend like they never used anime as their argument. xD

And that clash scene from the anime was canon and not filler since they adapted the scene 1 to 1 from the manga. You're so bad on copium its funny. :D
The anime is non canon fool. Foh with your delusional ass. Guess zoro using coc on fodder is canon too😂😂😂 but he can't even knockout fodder when using coc vs king🤣🤣🤣🤣
 
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