Powers & Abilities Which one is more impressive, breaking bones or leaving a scar

[Trafalgar_D_Law]

Meme needed to block luffy's g4 attacks and was getting hurt by metal scraps ; Kaido is way more durable than her

She laugh at Kong gun...she never needed Anything. Anyway the panels speak for themselves. Meme tanked the strongest piercing attack is the manga, it punch thro an island. Solid Top tier attack, G4 massively massively weaker then that.

Kaido been hurt by rocks neithers invulnerable...

http://imgur.com/a/kB0kdJZ

Just the fact Mama used hardening to block a Kong Gun while Kaido ate a G4 assault without guard or haki should stop any debate between Kaido and Big Mom durability

since when is tanking high tier damage superior to top tier lvl damage?? Meme tanked an island lvl Piercing attack. With no exterior wounds, the majority of the damage felt internally. Kaido was ran thro by this...

http://imgur.com/a/n06KJiE

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This durability debate is meaningless since Law ignores durability. Kaidou would get destroyed from the inside just the same as Big Mom, the rest is up to his endurance.

It's only relevant for Kidd.

It’s blows thro the the floor creating a massive hole. The attack would pierce any normal human. King whose superior to Kaido durability, needs to dodge Top tier slashes.

 

[Gol D. Roger]

This durability debate is meaningless since Law ignores durability. Kaidou would get destroyed from the inside just the same as Big Mom, the rest is up to his endurance.

It's only relevant for Kidd.

Given how well Kaido's been handling getting his internals pummeled since chapter 1000, I think his internals are rather harder to damage than BM.

 

[Trafalgar_D_Law]

Given how well Kaido's been handling getting his internals pummeled since chapter 1000, I think his internals are rather harder to damage than BM.

Function shockwave> every ACoA attack Kaido tank on the roof. Nothing supports that. Meme the one with better feats in that regard

 

[MonsterKaido]

She laugh at Kong gun...she never needed Anything. Anyway the panels speak for themselves. Meme tanked the strongest piercing attack is the manga, it punch thro an island. Solid Top tier attack, G4 massively massively weaker then that.

Kaido been hurt by rocks neithers invulnerable...

http://imgur.com/a/kB0kdJZ

since when is tanking high tier damage superior to top tier lvl damage?? Meme tanked an island lvl Piercing attack. With no exterior wounds, the majority of the damage felt internally. Kaido was ran thro by this...

http://imgur.com/a/n06KJiE

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It’s blows thro the the floor creating a massive hole. The attack would pierce any normal human. King whose superior to Kaido durability, needs to dodge Top tier slashes.

--Pain tolerance isn't same as Durability

--Kaido tanked 100M Fall with a minor head ache where BM was badly hurt by metal scraps flying towards her

--And scabbards have adv coa to pierce through kaido

--Also BM didn't tanked law's attack lol ; she endured it she was badly hurt by his attacks and even had broken bones

 

[Gol D. Roger]

Function shockwave> every ACoA attack Kaido tank on the roof. Nothing supports that

Aight, I forgot that.

 

[matt245]

One gave a scar to probably the most durable character in the verse pre power up, and we are talking about a hell of a power up (ACoC), the other one broke Big Meme's bones after using awakening which is also a hell of a power up. Funny how y'all need to compare current Law with awakening to Rooftop Zoro without ACoC for Law to stand even a small chance lol.

 

[ZenZu]

Given how well Kaido's been handling getting his internals pummeled since chapter 1000, I think his internals are rather harder to damage than BM.

Law quite easily had Hybrid Kaidou coughing up blood with injection shot an attack that isn't even in the same stratosphere as Shock Wille, you can almost call it a throwaway attack.

I don't know about harder to damage, maybe better at dealing with the damage.

 

[Dickie D. Dick]

Scar.
How many times SHs bones got broken? How many times SHs got a scar? Simple.

 

[roronoa_fan]

For a swordsman, cutting a bone is more impressive, it's the second step after cutting the skin. For an impact hit, like Luffy or Kid's, they will do more damage to bones that are hard than to soft skin.

For a blade, certainly cutting through a bone is more impressive, but we have to consider that Zoro and Law didn't attack the same target. We don't know if Big Mom has the same physical ability as Kaido, it's not possible to treat the comparison as if Law and Zoro were attacking the same target.

 

[Trafalgar_D_Law]

--Pain tolerance isn't same as Durability

exactly meme skin the topic. Is it pierced by a top tier puncturing attack or not??

--Kaido tanked 100M Fall with a minor head ache where BM was badly hurt by metal scraps flying towards her

--And scabbards have adv coa to pierce through kaido

What?? Are y’all even looking at the pics?? The attack destroyed 100s of Kms of Rock.... An created an explosion, 1000s of times bigger then Kaido fall from sky island. The attacks both exterior/internal. An we dnt know if it’s his durability that kept him safe. That could’ve just been endurance/recovery at work.

Meme defense is haki based(not natural like Kaido), scabbards can’t hurt Meme Like Kaido. AP vastly to weak.

Kaido advantage is recovery.

--Also BM didn't tanked law's attack lol ; she endured it she was badly hurt by his attacks and even had broken bones

Wrong u got it backwards. Her “skin” tanks the attack. She fucked up from the internal effects, that’s endurance.

 

[Gol D. Roger]

Law quite easily had Hybrid Kaidou coughing up blood with injection shot an attack that isn't even in the same stratosphere as Shock Wille, you can almost call it a throwaway attack.

I don't know about harder to damage, maybe better at dealing with the damage.

He literally stabbed his neck. I don't see how that correlates with using shockwaves to damage him. Law ignores his durability in the sense that he enters his outer durability and hits his internals. Internals have some durability too and not everyone has equal durability. BM's outer body is so fragile when her defense is turned off that she could hurt herself by dropping on the floor so it's not really impossible that her unprotected body parts are more vulnerable than Kaido who's born with a naturally superior body and has a dragon fruit to further enhance it.

Yeah, I agree it could be that he's better at handling damage but it could also be that his internals is less fragile or even both.

 

[Trafalgar_D_Law]

Scar.
How many times SHs bones got broken? How many times SHs got a scar? Simple.

Are any of them the second most durable character in the series??

Kaido scar did what to impair him fighting wise... broken arm, an multiple ribs actually force a Yonko to care she was hurt. An actively heal, Kaido not said a word about the scar since

 

[stealthblack]

Kaidou can fight just fine with scar. Imagine him fight with broken arm. Only linlin has power to heal that

 

[Trafalgar_D_Law]

He literally stabbed his neck. I don't see how that correlates with using shockwaves to damage him. Law ignores his durability in the sense that he enters his outer durability and hits his internals. Internals have some durability too and not everyone has equal durability. BM's outer body is so fragile when her defense is turned off that she could hurt herself by dropping on the floor so it's not really impossible that her unprotected body parts are more vulnerable than Kaido who's born with a naturally superior body and has a dragon fruit to further enhance it.

Yeah, I agree it could be that he's better at handling damage but it could also be that his internals is less fragile or even both.

That’s not how injection shot works... it’s exterior force. Blood clear coming out both sides of the wound.

http://imgur.com/a/Mw95WGy

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[Gari]

Scarring the most durable character by far without even using ACoC of course. Rooftop Zoro clears awakening Kid/Law. Actually current Zoro washes Big Mom in a 1v1.

 

[Gol D. Roger]

That’s not how injection shot works... it’s exterior force. Blood clear coming out both sides of the wound.

http://imgur.com/a/Mw95WGy

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I was talking about Shock Wille, not Injection Shot.

 

[Dickie D. Dick]

Are any of them the second most durable character in the series??

Kaido scar did what to impair him fighting wise... broken arm, an multiple ribs actually force a Yonko to care she was hurt. An actively heal, Kaido not said a word about the scar since

Linlin was healed in a moment.
Scars are clearly more important in One Piece than broken bones

 

[Finalbeta]

Meme needed to block luffy's g4 attacks and was getting hurt by metal scraps ; Kaido is way more durable than her

I don't think so. Luffy never proved to be able to damage her importantly, plus she showed to be able to decently compete with Kaido despite lacking his average level of AP and movement speed.

 

[Gol D. Roger]

Are any of them the second most durable character in the series??

Kaido scar did what to impair him fighting wise... broken arm, an multiple ribs actually force a Yonko to care she was hurt. An actively heal, Kaido not said a word about the scar since

Big Mom isn't the second most durable character in the series. It's Kaido which makes Big Mom's number 3 or 4 if you count fire amped King—Jozu being number 1. I think you agree that Kaido's more durable than Big Mom which means significantly hurting Kaido's outer body can be harder than hurting BM's outer body which in turn is harder than breaking her internal body parts which are unprotected could even be fragile given how Big Mom can hurt her body just by falling on to the ground when her outer defense is off.

Also, Law didn't impair BM all by himself; she was impaired after eating 4 high-end moves from the duo. I can understand why you think Law did the most work but you can't completely discard Kid from the equation. Big Mom wasn't actively healing, she only fixed her bones the second time, not the entire damage she sustained.

Kaido is more durable than BM and was much less injured when he took Asura than Big Mom when she took the second Shock Wille. Kaido also has a much better endurance and recovery rate than BM due to his Zoan capabilities. Taking all of them into consideration, the scar gave him a lot more damage than it was ever given credit for:

The scar stretches all the way from Kaido's upper left chest to the middle of the Oden's scar: You can't properly distinguish it because half of it is covered by Kaido's Tattoo while a part of it is mixed with Oden's scar.

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The attack had Kaido shivering like a Covid patient on life support:

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He acknowledges the attack and tells Zoro that he did enough—you seemingly can't read it due to ignorant glasses that you wear while reading Zoro panels. That right there received more recognition than any single hit move from Kid or Law.

Kaido started taking deep breaths the first time only after Asura—he wasn't even fighting here; he's breathing heavy just from talking.

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He bled just from getting his attack blocked after Asura:

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[ConquistadoR]

Which means virtually nothing.... Not being Pierce by top tier lvl puncturing damage >>> Tanking some high tier lvl attack. The difference in Attack potency/Attack power between the attacks are massive. Kong organ can’t even bypass crackers defense for godsake.

Used it to show how durability should be measured. Which is why using an Endurance feat is baseless.

U realize this doesn’t actually make any sense right? Meme injured because the attack has an internal impact on her body. That has nothing to do with durability. It’s endurance related.... The attack also causes normal exterior piercing damage!!? As u can see from Yamato/Meme panels. This is a high top tier penetration feat, capable of piercing through an island+ worth of bedrock. It’s even more impressive then mihawk iceberg feat by a noticeable margin. An most would claim that can actual cut Kaido.

The incision through KROOM is harmless and bypasses durability - this has been reiterated multiple times. The attack causes damage/DC through the shockwave the sword emits. Has nothing to do with external durability whatsoever.

The destruction that Puncture Wille caused was due to the shockwaves obliterating the rocks below, that was what Meme's internals must've felt and hence it's an endurance feat.

U can also see in those scans below. King who’s more durable then Kaido. Acknowledges he can be cut, an needs to block/dodge top tier damage. Yet a top tier penetration attack can’t breach Meme skin!!!! She only takes internal damage. That basically confirmed shes the most durable character. Kaido durability never held up against anything comparable. His endurance has, his edge always been recovery speed.

Apples and Oranges comparision - Zoro's attacks surpass durability and cut externally. Law's awakening attacks have been repeatedly stated to bypass durability factor altogether and that the incision is painless. The shockwave is what causes the damage and that's where your internals get fried.

Umm probably because the attack causes internal/external damage.

Why? No it doesn't. As explained above, the attack's shockwaves caused that DC - those shockwaves are emitted all throughout the sword as shown in the chapter. It obviously destroyed the bed rock.

Tho if the comparison not sitting right. Then just consider, puncture shockwave >>> ACoA Kong gatlin. The former being strong enough to temporarily down Kaido. An make him start dodging even base internal attacks. By direct comparison Theres nothing implying Meme couldn’t walk off Roofteop attacks as wll as Kaido. Which the manga itself says!!!

The comparision still doesn't make sense. Her externally durability is below Kaidou's own based on the Kong Organ and Kong Gun interactions.

@Bolded/underlined: That isn't how feat analysis work bro. You don't give a superior character's feats to inferior characters because you feel like it.