Did Kanjuro Kill Big Mom?


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But....she still lost?

She came to Wano just because of how badly Luffy embarrassed her, you think someone with as much pride as Big Mom would allow Kidd and Law to get a victory over her if she could stop it?
Bro in this case if this already called as victory, what we saying about all these stuffs where she got send away or fall like at the rooftop?
What is the difference between now and back then? Only because the narrative called out the "victory" for Kiid and Law?
Bm had enough power left, we don´t know how much the explosion damage her. That is my point.

Im not saying Law and Kid didn´t "deserve" the victory, but it clear via the bomb that Oda held it up the question for us reader, if BM really got defeated or not. And we don´t speak about a lose like how we see it against the Calamity or flying six, here was Bm still with all power, not knocked out.

If she is really down,fine I wouldn´t mind it either.
But in the way how Oda portrayal the fight, yeah for me their is a chance that even the Bomb didn´t do much to her.
Logical Prometheus should be even able to eat it and powering up himself.

And yes the gap between Kidd and Law's AP is Heaven and Earth, one character is bypassing durability to break every bone in BM's body, the other is building lego structures. It got so bad that Oda had BM spell it out for everyone, and he usually leaves these kinds of things ambiguous but he had to make sure the audience understood Big Mom saw Law's attacks as the threatening ones.
Well....
Can´t disagree....
Oda really did Kid dirty with the poor drawing of his feats and skills.
Usually with right logic the gap shouldn´t be big, but yeah the feats between these two are really far off.
I hope the chapter change the view and kinda make it better for Kid.
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
No I just dont care about troll nonsense like "fear fueled".

I repeatedly have said I have no issues with ZKK, it's just funny to me that every time Zoro is in a new situation, the "way" he recovers or gets back to Kaido changes.

This is now the 3rd time.

- First is was Marco or Hiyori will heal him and bring him back to the roof

- Then it was he'll beat King super fast and go back to Kaido before the drug wears off

- Now it's Grim reaper plot will heal him and make him mobile.

I'm not making fun of ZKK, I'm making fun of the asspull logic to make Zoro stand back up lmao
I know that you said that you have no problem with ZKK but every time someone says that Zoro will go ahead and do it, you are there to say how silly they are and how it wont happen. Your actions dont match your words.
It doesnt matter how Zoro gets to Kaido, what matters is that he gets there.
Y'all have been burying ZKK hundreds of times by now, every week basically and you still not done with it...

If Oda has decided that's how Kaido's life ends, nothing in this world can prevent it.
You are making fun of people who say that the reason why Zoro isnt sleeping is because he has to kill Kaido and saying how their idea is silly while at the same time saying Zoro woke up to hallucinate and that's it. That spells out fear.
Some may not pick it up but I do. I dont blame you tho, I know that you dont want it to happen.
 

Finalbeta

Zoro Worshipper
Law and Kidd can individually beat an admiral or push them extreme difficulty. We know that C3 can't beat YC tier characters that are below Kidd and Law without outside help or major distractions.

Kid and Law's awakening with their infinite stamina gauges would individually outlast the admirals. A gamma knife likely ends a fight, let alone something like Kroom.
How is Kidd beating an admiral when without Law he would have been toast pretty handily?
 
I'm a fan of loyal dudes who always have the backs of their friends, Zoro fits into this perfectly. It's why I like Jinbe as well as characters like Issac from the Castlevania Netflix series or Kim Kitsuragi from Disco Elysium. It's just really nice to see when a character has someone that they can turn to without a doubt in their mind.
:goyea:
You have great taste in characters :cheers:
 

Pot Goblin

Heisenbunny
It doesn't.
If you think stepping on a Lego hurts then you don't know true suffering.
I once slipped on dog shit and shattered my ulna bone and dislocated my radius. Took forever to heal and my right hand was paralyzed for about a year. Found out the day I broke it that I was allergic to morphine and found out after my 2nd surgery that I was allergic to the Nickle staples in my arm which lead to an infection.

Really wish I had the ability to heal my bones as Big Mom did.
:sanmoji:
 

Finalbeta

Zoro Worshipper
I wish people show some Whitebeard pirate as proper respect .

They are strongest pirate crew ever of all four emperor.

@TheAncientCenturion Marco, Jozu, Vista are stronger than your boyfriend King.
I would have loved to see the continuation of Marco vs King without interruptions from Queen. I think though Marco's AP would not have sufficed to defeat King even with better stamina, it would have still been over. But Marco is even less of a challenge to an admiral regardless. He acted a punching bag.
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
She lost the battle but it wasn't because Law and Kidd are superior fighters. I am yet to read the chapter but I am not going to attribute Big Mom's death /defeat from those bombs to the supernovas' feats and performance.

In a certain way perhaps law did have energy left for another powerful attack, but idk...
Yea but thats not the point, the point is if a bomb defeated her it just means its Kidd's fault for not having the AP to replicate that.

I don't know how a bomb beating a Yonkou can be made to look like a W for the character, Oda has starved the BM fanbase for so long to the point where they're celebrating a bomb defeating her? That's actually sad.

Last week I was told BM was gonna get back up, and continue fighting 1v1 with Kidd, turns out she didn't, and now she gets a participation trophy because a bomb dropped on her instead of Kidd KOing her.

Like i said this makes Kidd look worse than it makes BM look good.
 
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