Chapter Discussion One Piece Chapter 955: Enma

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So many efforts to get that suit to Sanji, years and years of post TS agony and when he finally got stronger Zoro put him in the shadow corner once again :cheers:
Has he though? I mean, we know they'll be taking down some big guys later - so we know we've got a lot of epicness in store for both of them

Most of the "agony" is people overlooking Sanji and his feats because they aren't as flashy as Zoros tbh, like, for instance, being totally unharmed when hit by Drake, that's not flashy but it's damn impressive

I don't really care though
 

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King the Wildfire better has something "special" from his fire. Kinemon might try to cut it but got fodderized in the process instead.
Raid suit which is famous for its fire resistance may got burned to crisp by King's fire.
What would kings fire do to mochi ?
 
Capone going to Dressrosa is an interesting one. Wonder if the Reverie has finished in the timeline of his story. And why it's Dressrosa in the first place he's going to.

Given what we've learned about Enma here, I wonder if Oden scarring Kaido was him letting all the brakes off and letting it take all his haki in one attack. Hope that Oda counties to have Zoro struggle with balancing it throughout Wano and that's not the only time we see it suck out all his Haki.

Well, Koushiro's almost certainly a Shimotsuki, but whether or not Zoro is descended from Wano or just happens to live in the Wano refugee village is still up in the air. Interesting that Enma's seemingly being hyped as the first one he'll turn into a black blade despite him using the other two swords longer.

And Hiyori's still playing her own game, even though I do think she's genuinely on the Red Scabbard side. Not sure whether it's her who informed to Orochi for whatever reason, or the traitor.

Can't fucking wait for next week cause the last interlude chapter was unreal.
 
Kawamatsu comments on Zoro and Luffy:kata:

I'm not gonna lie, with Luffy it's understandable

But with Zoro, just last chapter he called Zoro delusional for stating he beat Ryuuma's corpse!

I'm not against the idea of him seeing how great Zoro is and commenting on it, but the dude just made a 180 degree switch waaay too fast without even having gradual observation of Zoro greatness!

While with Luffy, he spent days in prison seeeing Luffy protecting Hyo, and saw how determined he is in making the people in udon following him...etc and then did what he did with babanuke!
So, it's very justifiable to see the compliment from him!

But honestly with Zoro it just felt forced by Oda to simply make the scabbard ignore the idea of some stranger weilding Oden's sword.

Sure, he's Luffy's comrade who proved himself to them, but still, I would have liked the compliment AFTER Zoro proving more infront of him, and not this god damn fast!

It felt weird how he switched from last chapter to this one.
 
Lol i dont know why you are laughing. Oden is the only samurai able to use that not any of the scabbards. So that puts zoro yc2 minimum. And above he scabbards already. And once hes mastered it and turned it black hes above oden.
Did they state that the scabbards cant use it or is that an assumption? Shutenmaru's YC3, or slightly above that, so ya know, there's that...
We don't know whether it's a matter of power or a matter of integrity/potential etc. that stops people using the sword either

I can see Zoro being YC1 post-Wano now, but only if he toughens up and blackens his swords
 
I'm not gonna lie, with Luffy it's understandable

But with Zoro, just last chapter he called Zoro delusional for stating he beat Ryuuma's corpse!

I'm not against the idea of him seeing how great Zoro is and commenting on it, but the dude just made a 180 degree switch waaay too fast without even having gradual observation of Zoro greatness!

While with Luffy, he spent days in prison seeeing Luffy protecting Hyo, and saw how determined he is in making the people in udon following him...etc and then did what he did with babanuke!
So, it's very justifiable to see the compliment from him!

But honestly with Zoro it just felt forced by Oda to simply make the scabbard ignore the idea of some stranger weilding Oden's sword.

Sure, he's Luffy's comrade who proved himself to them, but still, I would have liked the compliment AFTER Zoro proving more infront of him, and not this god damn fast!

It felt weird how he switched from last chapter to this one.
Its how highly the red scarbads see Oden I think.

Like as Tengu said none in Wano was able to tame Enma and now this guy who saved the princess and help Momonosuke manages to achieve the impossible to others.

The Ryuma thingy is obvious...you hear someone saying he meet a guy who lived centuries ago...crazy.
 

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Did they state that the scabbards cant use it or is that an assumption? Shutenmaru's YC3, or slightly above that, so ya know, there's that...
We don't know whether it's a matter of power or a matter of integrity/potential etc. that stops people using the sword either

I can see Zoro being YC1 post-Wano now, but only if he toughens up and blackens his swords
Yes oden is the only one able to use it. Stated last chapter and once hes mastered it and made it black permanently what oden couldnt do. He will have surpassed him too.
 
Did they state that the scabbards cant use it or is that an assumption? Shutenmaru's YC3, or slightly above that, so ya know, there's that...
We don't know whether it's a matter of power or a matter of integrity/potential etc. that stops people using the sword either

I can see Zoro being YC1 post-Wano now, but only if he toughens up and blackens his swords
"None in this country managed to tame it....only Kozuki Oden"

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Why is that? lol
It's natural for our main characters to power up, Sanji got his raid suit and power up, so we're more than satisfied lol
And who knows, maybe the constant use of Raid Suit which is activated by Sanji ONLY "meaning his DNA/lineage factor" may end up playing part in provoking Sanji's gene, and somehow awake the dormant genes that were supressed by his mom medicine! Ending up making Sanji develop even an exoskeleton and other powers related to his genes...etc!

naturally Oda will have Sanji control his emotions unlike his brothers lol

But anyway, Sanji already got a power up, and there is still possibility for more comsidering the experiment made on him.

Oda wouldn't throw that just to ignore it later, they are just seeds he planted for future power ups when time is right to awaken it
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Its how highly the red scarbads see Oden I think.

Like as Tengu said none in Wano was able to tame Enma and now this guy who saved the princess and help Momonosuke manages to achieve the impossible to others.

The Ryuma thingy is obvious...you hear someone saying he meet a guy who lived centuries ago...crazy.
Yeah, but it's not like Zoro tamed it completely, even Zoro himself said that he needs more time with it

But even still, I wanted a little bit more time and showcase from Zoro infront of Kawamatsu's eyes to start making compliments. C'mon! does it feel weird how fast he switched!
 
Why is that? lol
It's natural for our main characters to power up, Sanji got his raid suit and power up, so we're more than satisfied lol
And who knows, maybe the constant use of Raid Suit which is activated by Sanji ONLY "meaning his DNA/lineage factor" may end up playing part in provoking Sanji's gene, and somehow awake the dormant genes that were supressed by his mom medicine! Ending up making Sanji develop even an exoskeleton and other powers related to his genes...etc!

naturally Oda will have Sanji control his emotions unlike his brothers lol

But anyway, Sanji already got a power up, and there is still possibility for more comsidering the experiment made on him.

Oda wouldn't throw that just to ignore it later, they are just seeds he planted for future power ups when time is right to awaken it
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Yeah, but it's not like Zoro tamed it completely, even Zoro himself said that he needs more time with it

But even still, I wanted a little bit more time and showcase from Zoro infront of Kawamatsu's eyes to start making compliments. C'mon! does it feel weird how fast he switched!
That's just an observation of the thread lmao many Sanji fans are salty but we're used to.it by now
 
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