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On prometheus not agilty wise. Has big mom ever moved so fast she was invisible? Sanji moved so fast queen thought he was invisible. Oven didn’t even know what hit him.
She’s a top tier, top tiers are inherently fast. This ain’t real life where characters get bigger and slower as seen by Kaido and Big Mom being able to be agile and fast
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She also literally countered Sanji’s attack in front of her
 
The panel is so stupid is hilarious.
Imagine out of nowhere an absolute unit like Big Mom crashes the roof over your head and falls just a few meters away from you.
Yea, this is definetly what you would ask yourself the very second this is happening.
 
She’s a top tier, top tiers are inherently fast. This ain’t real life where characters get bigger and slower as seen by Kaido and Big Mom being able to be agile and fast
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She also literally countered Sanji’s attack in front of her
And she also countered kidds finisher by laying on her ass lol . Kidd literally pulled a Tien tribeam canoon vs semiperfect cell. It made a cratee and pushed him in a hole but did little to no dmaaged. Same with kidd
 
I cant believe we wasted an entire Decade on Big Mom, a whole decade was spent building her up to go against Luffy but all Luffy gets as his victory moment is escaping her territory, that sucks.

Law has neither Ryo or Conquerer's haki, but at least he has his internal attacks to deal damage to big Mom.
But how on earth does Kid hurt her he has neither Ryo nor advanced conquerer's haki but he can somehow break big moms bones while Luffy cant even scratch her with Gear fourh, that makes aboslutely no sense. Oda has given us no explanation whatsoever on how Kid could physically hurt Big Mom, this is a complete cop out.

I was giving this defeat a pass for Big Mom because the spoilers said all the bombs and the fire monster fall and explode with her which is completely false.
One Bomb explodes, the one she grabs and that takes out the fire monster, when big mom falls and hits wano there is only rubble falling with her, so how the hell did she explode on impact.
The Rest of the bombs are still there with Yamato in their frozen state when she is talking to Momo.

What was the point in tying Big Mom's history into Elbaf if she wasnt going to be involved in that arc and leaving her flashback on a kind of cliffhanger regarding Carmel and the orphans.

But the biggest annoyance is how garbage luffy looks now in comparison since Kaido and Big Mom are supposed to be equals.
Kid and law beat Big Mom with nothing but their devil fruit awakenings.
Meanwhile Luffy requires Advanced Conquerer's haki and Ryo just to be able to hurt Kaido, who has fought against all 9 red scabbards and 4 other Supernova and still beat Luffy a second time.
After that he fight Yamato and even Momo gets to deal some damage, so after fighting FIFTEEN other characters he's still getting the better of Luffy while he's freaking DRUNK.

Unless Big Mom gets up next chapter (Which i doubt since we got the victory box), see's Zunisha and all the WG ships and decides its time to abandon Kaido and leave with her crew then this is by far the biggest waste of a charcter we have ever had and i thought nothing could ever beat freaking Rebecca.

Kid has done nothing to deserve this accolade in the story.
Hate to do this tbh, but two things:

1) There is an actual nuke - not just a bomb - falling alongside BM, look it up.

2) Kidd and Law didn't really "beat" her in a classic fight (would have lost really badly in an arena match). They simply outsmarted her and used the environment to their advantage.
 
Hate to do this tbh, but two things:

1) There is an actual nuke - not just a bomb - falling alongside BM, look it up.

2) Kidd and Law didn't really "beat" her in a classic fight (would have lost really badly in an arena match). They simply outsmarted her and used the environment to their advantage.
That's utter garbage. Every top battle uses the environment to their advantage. Doflamingo came crashing from the clouds like 4-5 times. Law buried her 5000 feet deep.

The "bombs" that the spoilers hinted are still up there. Yamato froze them.
 
That's utter garbage. Every top battle uses the environment to their advantage. Doflamingo came crashing from the clouds like 4-5 times. Law buried her 5000 feet deep.

The "bombs" that the spoilers hinted are still up there. Yamato froze them.
Re-read the chapter and then come back.

You can clearly see a nuke falling down alongside BM ffs.

And no, it's not a "clean victory" for Law/Kidd, since their own attacks couldn't even come close to bringing down BM. She was still just fine during her fall. In the end the fall and the nuke knocked her out for a while. Still a victory though, but nothing like truly besting her in a combat contest or anything like that, just outsmarted her.
 
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