Chapter Discussion One Piece Chapter 955: Enma

[Finalbeta]

Enma Tatsumaki one shots 90% of Kaido forces.

I hope to see that bird of King with his frightened face after Zoro is about to cut him

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So Kinemon still says that their numbers are not enough, they only have 4200 people, kinemon wanted 8000....:unsure:

So Straw Hat Grand Fleet incoming?

Yes definitely. I don't think the Fleet will only be useful during the Final war that would be a poor choice imo

 

[Sade]

@ShadyOjiro you were right Shinobu x Law really was a thing

I wonder when They will make the first move ?

 

[OmegaPsyche]

I hope to see that bird of King with his frightened face after Zoro is about to cut him

He stands no chance.
After Zoro trains with Enma, he'll probably end up low top tier.

 

[pedxi]

I wonder when They will make the first move ?

Seems like Law decided to be in team Orochi so i think there will be a heart breaking fight between him and shinobu

 

[Jrus]

Law is stronger than Zoro

 

[OmegaPsyche]

Law is stronger than Zoro

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

u really compare ichiji vs oven (who even bege ran over him by a ship and base sanji broke his neck)
with Sanji deleting Page one from the series

sanji page one was inconclusive on panel
so was ichiji and oven
but both brothers looked more impressive than their counterparts. oven throughout wci however was a tank . he got ran over sure but got back up easily, base sanji kicked him sure, but again he got right back up and found chiffon.
The fact that oven took these said attacks and was relatively fine until he met ichiji poking holes through him forcing him to cough a significant amount of blood is nonetheless impressive. as for page one, we literally dont know where he stands in comparison to any other fighter but sanji. sure he is a flying six member , so is drake and they clearly arent the same in strength. again, his "defeat" doesnt even deserve the dignity of being confirmed. oven was more of a pest in wci than smoothie . that says a lot . as for deleting page one from the series, not so sure. luffy didnt delete holdem (who got his defeat on panel), page one might not be done.

 

[Cyrus the Cactus]

Only Oden could tame Enma you say!? BUT WE NEED PANELS OF EVERYONE IN WANO TRYING TO TAME IT

 

[Sade]

Seems like Law decided to be in team Orochi so i think there will be a heart breaking fight between him and shinobu

I will not be able to handle it....

 

[Sadistic Senpai]

It was Hitetsu (correct me if I'm wrong) who said that no one can wield it except Oden.

Honestly, I personally think it's just a way to hype Oden as the only one they know who tamed it. But it doesn't mean that some other top powerful guys cannot wield it, they simply did not try to, because they already have a sword or for other reason did not want to.
Look, it's not an attempt to discredit Zoro, the fact that Zoro managed to wield it speaks volumes, it's just I think that there are other characters with the potential to wield it BUT never tried it. Specially the very powerful guys like Asura Douji, I honestly think they would rather have the mentality of "not using Oden's sword" as a way that it only belong to their lord Oden or his heir Momonosuke/Hiyori...etc

So, Because I personally think that there can exist characters who have the potential to wield it, but simply chose to not do so, I feel Kawamatsu should have at least witnessed MORE of Zoro before makes this quick switch. Again, the dude just last chapter was against it, and was calling Zoro with all sorts of names. At least, give the guy gradual observation of being in owe before starting to compliment him.

Hell, you can see the difference with Sanji-Kinemon relationship in Punk Hazard for example when Sanji took Kinemon's head and then tried to get his body back. Kinemon chapter after another was getting on Sanji's nerves, he never switched so fast after taking his head and escaping prison, it took some time, and he waited UNTIL the very moment Sanji risked his life in Nami's own body which he cherishes to save Kinemon's body underwater, it took that much to make Kinemon be in great debt to him and start admiring him. There is gradual admiration process here. But with this chapter, it just seemed abrupt as fuck

 

[Jrus]

Only Oden could tame Enma you say!? BUT WE NEED PANELS OF EVERYONE IN WANO TRYING TO TAME IT

Wano was conquered by 8 year old Jack so it's not really impressive

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

strongest person law has defeated is hawkins not a commander, has he even faced one? . the same guy who joined kaido and watched kid and killer fight for their lives. luffy has beat commanders, trained on top of that and yet people think law is ready for kaido?

that dude might really die this arc.

 

[Cyrus the Cactus]

Wano was conquered by 8 year old Jack so it's not really impressive

Wut?

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Wano was conquered by 8 year old Jack so it's not really impressive

ignore this one.
some people really think jack would have been strong enough to be a calamity at 8. at 28 he should be a lot stronger than he is rn.

 

[Rivaille]

You really have nothing else to say lmao. Insulting me wont get you far. You shouldve learnt from yesterday.

Since when saying that someone has reading comprehension issues is insulting him?
But I guess it is part of your reading comprehension issues so thanks to prove my point :smithnie:

 

[Sadistic Senpai]

I wonder when They will make the first move ?

Hahaha, I could have sworn that I also was thinking that at some point because Shinubu's gag is fall for others and be attracted to them while being oblivious of how others think about her beauty. I swear I had the same feeling that maybe at some point in future events, when the traitor is about to be revealed, Shinubu will be saved by non-other than Law himself whom she accused. I swear that I feel she will end up trying to stick to Law like a glue while he's ignoring her in comedy scenes. It would be funny as fuck how she may throw herself at him and he ignores her LOL

 

[pedxi]

i just sayin Ichiji stopping Oven is incomparable to Sanji defeating page one
ichiji just stopped him from attacking Sanji but Sanji said i'm going to reduce enemies force which he clearly did
you could deny it as much as you want but it's a fact to this point of time

sanji page one was inconclusive on panel
so was ichiji and oven
but both brothers looked more impressive than their counterparts. oven throughout wci however was a tank . he got ran over sure but got back up easily, base sanji kicked him sure, but again he got right back up and found chiffon.
The fact that oven took these said attacks and was relatively fine until he met ichiji poking holes through him forcing him to cough a significant amount of blood is nonetheless impressive. as for page one, we literally dont know where he stands in comparison to any other fighter but sanji. sure he is a flying six member , so is drake and they clearly arent the same in strength. again, his "defeat" doesnt even deserve the dignity of being confirmed. oven was more of a pest in wci than smoothie . that says a lot . as for deleting page one from the series, not so sure. luffy didnt delete holdem (who got his defeat on panel), page one might not be done.

 

[Zowo]

 

[L o g i a]

More of a recency bias. When he busted out the rs , sanji fans did the same . Kol thinks rs sanji is g4 level. ichiji his brother with the rs also busted a vet level character in wci only to get one shot by katakuri.
sanji's himself thinks its flashy , its not just the fanbase or some scrub .

sanji is prob so prepared he doesnt need to train like luffy or zoro :yasu:
nah
also the point that no one shutenmaru, kawamatsu, denjiro not a top dog but oden tamed this sword. its flashier because it is. It earned that right. at the same time , zoro isnt toptier just yet. luffy is tho at the lower end of it.

Well mate, we know KOL is a fucking moron (as is most of the YouTube community) so i don't know why you're citing him as if he's a reliable source or representation of what I think.

I literally just said Zoro's feats are flashy, it's Sanji's that typically are not so flashy. Speed blitzing somebody or going invisible etc. are not flashy. There's no cliffs being sliced off. There's no explosions etc. They're visibly less impressive, but contextually more impressive than many feats.

Dude, Hiyori owned the sword, why would the scabbards even try to use it? My point is that we simply cannot prove neither here nor there whether Shutenmaru or Kawamatsu (presumably the two strongest scabbards) could use it. So if anything, it's best to overlook that statement for now as it proves nothing.

Also, Luffy isn't a top tier yet either

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

i just sayin Ichiji stopping Oven is incomparable to Sanji defeating page one
ichiji just stopped him from attacking Sanji but Sanji said i'm going to reduce enemies force which he clearly did
you could deny it as much as you want but it's a fact to this point of time

ichiji didnt just stall oven .
have a look sir

again we didnt see sanji defeat page one or ichiji defeat oven but they were portrayed above their counterparts with the rs on. I cant deny something that wasnt shown. sanji page one fight wasnt shown to us and the result isnt confirmed. sorry I dont just go blindly with sanji's words before the fight to confirm what happened offscreen. is it possible he did ? sure but its not confirmed.