Future Events Is there any actual reasons why people believe Fuji wont fight against the SHs ??

#1
I just think Fuji is the perfect Zoro opponent. He's a swordsman and he also shares the same personality most of Zoro's opponents share which is being serious and calm. His personality is basically Kaku's.

And Fuji got the Shichibukai system abolished, so why would his petty ass not fight for the marines ? The Revos literally have the same ideals as the SHs and what not....yet Fuji still fought them. So I dont see why people magically believe Fuji will cop out.

This Zoro vs Kizaru obssession literally came from nowhere. Zoro has better set up with Fuji...then Kizaru.
 
#2
Cuz Luffy can change Fujitora's ideology of all pirates being evil. That's why Fuji will side with the Strawhats in the Final War not against the Marines but rather the World Government themselves. So I don't see why Fuji would fight Zoro again since they already have clashed before. Zoro vs Kizaru for me have better build-up cuz both of them seems to be the second in command of their respective groups and Kizaru destroyed Zoro back in Sabaody so it will be a good chance for Zoro to take revenge against him.
 
#3
maybe because against the orders of his superiors
fujitora refused to capture and hunt down law and luffy letting them go in dr

against the wishes of his superior
he also successfully pushed for thee warlord system to be abolished


given how he views luffy and the strawhats
the chances of being an obstacle to them just gets that much slimmer.
kizaru vs zoro is speculated due to matchups/pairings between kizaru and righthands
rayleigh
marco
beckman

logically zoro fits that mold
whats the case for sanji kizaru
fighting style?
well we know how those flaming kicks helped with the king matchup
 
#6
His actions at dressrosa makes me feel like he won’t be antagonist towards the Strawhats, if he’s willing to standby and allow one warlord to be exposed for their corruption then I can’t imagine he’ll follow orders again when the wg full on shows their true colors on a global scale. I think he’s the perfect person to replace Akainu, I can’t imagine him being beaten to a pulp by the mcs when he’s such a good guy.
 
#8
Because fujitora is seen as the weakest admiral, so even if fuji is swordsman,zorotards ignores his own narrative (zoro fights the swordsman) and come with this bullshit that fujitora wont fight the SHs only for zoro to fight another admiral :suresure:
 
#9
maybe because against the orders of his superiors
fujitora refused to capture and hunt down law and luffy letting them go in dr

against the wishes of his superior
he also successfully pushed for thee warlord system to be abolished


given how he views luffy and the strawhats
the chances of being an obstacle to them just gets that much slimmer.
kizaru vs zoro is speculated due to matchups/pairings between kizaru and righthands
rayleigh
marco
beckman

logically zoro fits that mold
whats the case for sanji kizaru
fighting style?
well we know how those flaming kicks helped with the king matchup
This thread isnt a case for Sanji vs Kizaru...more so Zoro vs Fuji
 
#11
I feel like the reasoning people are using isnt good enough. Sure Fuji loves Luffy....but he still has duties. He refused before..but that was for reasons.

Katakuri near the end of the fight wanted to lose his virginity to Luffy....yet he still carried on fighting.

Fuji might as well leave the marines if he wont fight against the SHs. A friendly match against Zoro is where I see this going.
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which is why 90% of my post made enough ground for zoro vs kizaru
Didnt Fuji fight against Sabo ?
 
#12
Marine is hunting ex-shichibukai, it would be stupid to send someone weaker than an admiral to hunt Mihawk, at the same time we know he won't lose until he fights Zoro, so that's the reason why Fujitora won't fight the SH.
 
#13
I feel like the reasoning people are using isnt good enough. Sure Fuji loves Luffy....but he still has duties. He refused before..but that was for reasons.

Katakuri near the end of the fight wanted to lose his virginity to Luffy....yet he still carried on fighting.

Fuji might as well leave the marines if he wont fight against the SHs. A friendly match against Zoro is where I see this going.
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Didnt Fuji fight against Sabo ?
yeah
but its hardly a pattern neither do I think fujitora will serve as an antagonist in general
 
#14
I could see Fujitora momentarily clash with Zoro to test his strength, but will ultimately give up to let Zoro pursuit other targets
But imo powerscaling aside, I prefer a gravity fight between Zoro and Fuji, because fuck them lasers, and I want to see actual swords clashing with each other (no homo)
 
#16
Fujitora is just the bon clay of the marines. He may like and respect Luffy but it is still going to stand by his team
There's a difference between Bon chan and Fuji tho. True they both respect Luffy but when Alabasta happened, Bon chan was fully oyal to Croc and was willing to do his evil deeds. Fujitora is in discontent with the WG, which the SHs will be fighting against.
So it's gonna be interesting when it comes to the match up against the Admirals anyways, because literally any match up could happen (aside from Sanji vs Fujitora)
 
#17
There's a difference between Bon chan and Fuji tho. True they both respect Luffy but when Alabasta happened, Bon chan was fully oyal to Croc and was willing to do his evil deeds. Fujitora is in discontent with the WG, which the SHs will be fighting against.
So it's gonna be interesting when it comes to the match up against the Admirals anyways, because literally any match up could happen (aside from Sanji vs Fujitora)
Fujitoras also still fiercely loyal to the World government. Going so far as to fighting the revolutionary army who are a force of good in the world.

Fujitoras reason of contention is good now t
 
#18
I think Oda is using that not to simply make Fujitora switch sides, but to make his fight against a Strawhat (Zoro most likely) more "emotionally driven" (which kinda fits Fujitora's character), and consequently epic.

Zoro vs King had that feeling, it had a few flashbacks/compliments about Zoro and his peculiar way of seeing Luffy as his Captain, just like Fujitora also sees Luffy in a very peculiar way. So as i said, i don't think this is here simply to prevent Fujitora from being an enemy, but to give his fight against Zoro much more content, which would also add a lot to Fujitora as a character on every single way.

For me, the way Oda portrayals Fujitora and Ryokugyu is almost enough to make me think they are indeed going to be Zoro and Sanji's future opponents.

Although i get the Zoro vs Kizaru appeal, Kizaru always clashed with Right Hands, he can create a Light Saber to fight, and he gives the Akainu's Right Hand vibes (im not so sure about that tho).

But that could actually mean something deeper. Oda took the time to introduce Fujitora much earlier, instead of offscreening him until he got to do some real shit, so someone could argue that the hype around him isn't that big anymore.

Oda also placed him in situations where some people can come up with their agendas, although im sure most of the Fujitora downplay is dumb as hell and makes no sense.

What Oda usually does with Zoro and Sanji's opponents is that he introduces them very late into the story and we take quite a long time to see them on some real action, in order to build more hype when their 1vs1 comes.

That could be the reason Oda is offscreening Ryokugyu so much and building mystery around him, the first time he fought also happened offscreen and he wasn't even shown in the manga afterwards, but Fujitora was.

It's like that event was completely irrelevant to Ryokugyu.

So based on that, i could see Fujitora switching sides, Ryokugyu would refuse allying with Fujitora so the Admiral Trio would end up being Akainu, Kizaru and Ryokugyu. That decision alone would automatically add a lot to Ryokugyu's character by itself, even if he isn't actually being properly shown in the manga (its a good claim imo)

Back in W7/EL, Lucci and Kaku were already there, Jabra came much later into the arc, but Lucci and Kaku already knew him briefly, and he indeed fought Sanji.

So it's not weird to believe something similar could happen again with their next WG foes, especially on how Oda loves to stick with all kinds of callbacks for the Monster Trio.
 
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#19
Fujitora is no less an opponent for Zoro than any other admiral. He's got the most OP fruit among the admirals and he'd actually give a harder fight for Zoro than Kizaru. However, given how Fujitora's willing to oppose the WG's ways when he sees fit, it won't be anti-climatic to assume he won't be wholeheartedly fighting on the WG's side when their evil deeds are fully exposed.
 
#20
I think Oda is using that not to simply make Fujitora switch sides, but to make his fight against a Strawhat (Zoro most likely) more "emotionally driven" (which kinda fits Fujitora's character), and consequently epic.

Zoro vs King had that feeling, it had a few flashbacks/compliments about Zoro and his peculiar way of seeing Luffy as his Captain, just like Fujitora also sees Luffy in a very peculiar way. So as i said, i don't think this is here simply to prevent Fujitora from being an enemy, but to give his fight against Zoro much more content, which would also add a lot to Fujitora as a character on every single way.

For me, the way Oda portrayals Fujitora and Ryokugyu is almost enough to make me think they are indeed going to be Zoro and Sanji's future opponents.

Although i get the Zoro vs Kizaru appeal, Kizaru always clashed with Right Hands, he can create a Light Saber to fight, and he gives the Akainu's Right Hand vibes (im not so sure about that tho).

But that could actually mean something deeper. Oda took the time to introduce Fujitora much earlier, instead of offscreening him until he is going to do some real shit, so someone could argue that the hype around him isn't that big anymore.

Oda also placed him in situations where some people can come up with their agendas, although im sure most of the Fujitora downplay is dumb as hell and makes no sense.

What Oda usually does with Zoro and Sanji's opponents is that he introduces them very late into the story and we take quite a long time to see them on some real action, in order to build more hype when their 1vs1 comes.

That could be the reason Oda is offscreening Ryokugyu so much and building mystery around him, the first time he fought also happened offscreen and he wasn't even shown in the manga afterwards, but Fujitora was.

It's like that event was completely irrelevant to Ryokugyu.

So based on that, i could see Fujitora switching sides, Ryokugyu would refuse allying with Fujitora so the Admiral Trio would end up being Akainu, Kizaru and Ryokugyu. That decision alone would automatically add a lot to Ryokugyu's character by itself, even if he isn't actually being properly shown in the manga (its a good claim imo)

Back in W7/EL, Lucci and Kaku were already there, Jabra came much later into the arc, but Lucci and Kaku already knew him briefly, and he indeed fought Sanji.

So it's not weird to believe something similar could happen again with their next WG foes, especially on how Oda loves to stick with all kinds of callbacks for the Monster Trio.
This explanation of yours gives me hope that Zoro vs Fujitora can indeed happen pre-Final War before Zoro vs Kizaru takes place in the final war. :pepedoffy:

After all, Zoro vs Kizaru and Cook vs Ryo are essentially Green vs Yellow. :pepapoo:
 
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