How many more times will Luffy lose to Kaido?


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Mate, how many times do I have to tell you, the size is not there. KKG is KKG. Over Kong is Over Kong.

Oda has introduced "smaller" alternatives this entire arc

Kong Organ (Smaller Triplets) -> (Larger Singles) Kong Gatling
Black Mamba (Smaller Triplets) -> (Larger Singles) Hydra
Roc Gun (Smaller/Faster) -> Elephant Gun (Larger/Slower)
Over Kong Gun (Smaller/Faster) -> KKG (Larger/Slower)

We have no evidence Oda is renaming stuff after ACoC. Luffy just to fight Kaido is opting for smaller/faster alternatives. KKG is still KKG.
Except that there is no difference in size if you compare it to these panels in the quoted posts below.. difference
Even the perspective argument fails here.

From top:
KKG
OKG

In other perspectives
KKG

OKG
This panel is even better for the perspective:



In this panel, you can clearly see Luffy's compressed fist which makes up of Bound Man's entire body in width. It's also very similar to the panel above in terms of size. Or in other words, it's pratically the same stance. Compare both fists and it's clear both are the same size.

It's no doubt a CoC infused KKG, no matter what kind of nonsense sanjikun is on about.

All the examples you gave btw are incomparable,even in the way you wrote it. Mamba and organ are executed differently compare to hydra and gatling.

Roc is gear stacking.

Both OKG and KKG are one oversized fist where Luffy take the same stances and Oda decided to draw them the same way perspective wise as well..
With the above and back of Luffy perspective being sus as hell.
 
Oda always does the same thing.

>Introduces a new power
>Fanbase tries to gatekeep it/argue that it is rarer than it actually is
>get cucked when Oda gives it to everybody

Back in 2010 people were having debates about whether Admirals could use basic haki

The thought of characters such as Chinjao,Doflamingo or a YC having Conqueror would've also been shocking

And the fanbase tried it again with aCoC beefore Yamato and Zoro showed it

FS is no different. It's gonna be trivialized.
How is it trivialized when it's the reason why Kaido got out of that Snakeman onslaught?
And how is it trivialized, when it makes a guy like Katakuri, who's using it continously, pretty much untouchable?

Far in contrary it proved its worth, cause -> Snakeman counter.
 
Anyhow, I think with Oda giving Kaido FS this chapter, he truly doesn't give a fuck anymore. OP powerscaling has jumped the shark.

Imagine having Future Sight but everyone and their mother hits you...



Observation Haki is less consistent than Armament Haki... Didn't think it was possible.
Kaido literally didnt care about their blades. He said that their blades wouldnt be able to cut them so he let them do it. It's only after his oden ptsd that he froze. Yall dont read the manga anymore, smh
 
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he didn't use acoc haki

oden togen totsuka
zoro's ashura
there is no black lightning
BM vs Kaido, Shanks vs WB. No black lightning and same sky splitting feat. So they sky splitted without ACoC?
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no enma was the catalyst because it forced zoro to release as much haki as he can ,
removing limiters he typically put on himself to avoid an excessive haki drain.
No it didn't forced Zoro to release as much haki as he can. It forced him to hold his haki because in order to not be drain out by Enma.

In fact he could have unleashed more haki without Enma's drain.
 
Mate, how many times do I have to tell you, the size is not there. KKG is KKG. Over Kong is Over Kong.

Oda has introduced "smaller" alternatives this entire arc

Kong Organ (Smaller Triplets) -> (Larger Singles) Kong Gatling
Black Mamba (Smaller Triplets) -> (Larger Singles) Hydra
Roc Gun (Smaller/Faster) -> Elephant Gun (Larger/Slower)
Over Kong Gun (Smaller/Faster) -> KKG (Larger/Slower)

We have no evidence Oda is renaming stuff after ACoC. Luffy just to fight Kaido is opting for smaller/faster alternatives. KKG is still KKG.
Different maybe but these all new attacks are much more stronger and upgraded versions, just like first time Luffy used Gear 3 it was very big attacks and after timeskip it got shrinked and now its even smaller and stronger because it has now both speed and compactness which Doflamingo had told Luffy that he was lacking, and now Luffy has both speed and strength in his attacks (Speed is Weight *Kizaru*), adding Advance CoA+CoC
as we saw Roc Gun was WAAYYY stronger than Elephant Gun
so yeah strengthwise
Kong Organ >> Kong Gatling
Roc Gun >> Elephant Gun
Over Kong Gun >> KKG :risicheck:
 
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