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Lmao what Fujitora did to him ain't shit; what Fuji did to Zoro caused way more damage than Law received against him. The main reason he was injured is because Doffy fucked him sideways; if Law was a YC3 level character shouldn't he have been able to beat him or at least leave him half dead in an extreme diff fight? Unless of course you believe Doffy is straight up YC1 level (which obviously isn't it since we saw Luffy get spanked by a real YC1 in WCI)
The fight was offpaneled dumbass how would we know exactly what he did? The text boxes wrote by Oda states it's law vs Fuji/doffy stop chancing the source material
Zoro being more injured by just Fuji just show how much weaker he is then law...
Lol so having ur stamina significantly drain before the fight played no part huh. Nevermind the fact Oda make it a point, to point out laws df is dependent on it literally right before they reach greenbit smh trolls.
Laws 3rd lvl now troll never said he was in DR.... Tho I love how u basically are trying to ignore all the actual circumstances in the fight. To make ur idiotic point.
Apparently stalling an admiral/warlord isn't enough to actually weaken u. Let's see if ur troll brain can get it this way. If jack had to stall doffy/Fuji alone, then immediately after fight fresh doffy solo is he going to have an actual shot a winning?
Zoro being more injured by just Fuji just show how much weaker he is then law...
Lol so having ur stamina significantly drain before the fight played no part huh. Nevermind the fact Oda make it a point, to point out laws df is dependent on it literally right before they reach greenbit smh trolls.
Laws 3rd lvl now troll never said he was in DR.... Tho I love how u basically are trying to ignore all the actual circumstances in the fight. To make ur idiotic point.
Apparently stalling an admiral/warlord isn't enough to actually weaken u. Let's see if ur troll brain can get it this way. If jack had to stall doffy/Fuji alone, then immediately after fight fresh doffy solo is he going to have an actual shot a winning?
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What kind of idiotic question is this? He's more then likely already there. Tho this should be a nice meme post arc
Doesn't look like it currently. Tho I worded that wrong he should be Y1C+ lvl. If he beats king like assumed.
Doesn't look like it currently. Tho I worded that wrong he should be Y1C+ lvl. If he beats king like assumed.
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Luffy got blocked and sent underground by monet and lost to Ceasar. Carrot almost bite his neck off and Hody almost killed him. See I can use low ball nerf Luffy feats too.
Luffy couldn't even harm Kaido and Zoro going to do this? Zoro going do better feats then WCI luffy this arc.
So where you have Law End of Wano. Do you think he will have better potrayal in Wano then Zoro in this war?
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Did I say that anywhere in that post? Reading goes a long way
I don’t really get how you can conclude that Zoro taming Enma equals Zoro being stronger than the Scabbards 😓 when it’s not like the test for taming Enma was to to beat it 1 v 1 in combat with others failing and only Zoro succeeding. Zoro taming Enma has more to do with his mental fortitude & him being special/unique in comparison to regular swordsmen that anything else.
@Gran D. Master has already pointed it out in that Enma is similar to the Kitetsu. For example chances are that none of the scabbards can wield Kitetsu so are we going to say pre-TS Zoro greater than the scabbards as well?
There’s no doubt that Zoro received portrayal that singles him out from regular swordsmen like the scabbards but it doesn’t automatically mean he’s stronger than all of them atm (or rather prior to getting Enma).
@Gran D. Master has already pointed it out in that Enma is similar to the Kitetsu. For example chances are that none of the scabbards can wield Kitetsu so are we going to say pre-TS Zoro greater than the scabbards as well?
There’s no doubt that Zoro received portrayal that singles him out from regular swordsmen like the scabbards but it doesn’t automatically mean he’s stronger than all of them atm (or rather prior to getting Enma).
I'm going against the consensus here. I don't think Zoro is as powerful as Kyoshiro (who I think is Denjiro) or Ashura Doji just yet
This is not true. It stated that everyone who has tried to has been unable to. The scabbards, to our knowledge, would not betray Oden and try to take his sword, so it's VERY unlikely those guys even attempted such a feat unless Oden let them try while they were alive.
It's clear he's more powerful than the ones we've seen the upper limits of at least. That being:
Kin'emon
Kanjuro
Raizo
Now. Let it be known that those three are the weakest scabbards we have seen - though I would suspect Kikunojo is also around that level of power. The problem for Zoro comes when we talk about Kawamatsu, Inuarashi, Nekomamushi and Ashura Doji.
Now, it is very likely Zoro is stronger than Kawamatsu, Inuarashi and Nekomamushi - given I think Zoro can push YC3 (being generous) whereas two of them had to 2v1 Jack. The problem comes when you look at Ashura Doji and Denjiro - the two strongest scabbards. IF these two are paired together, we can assume they're comparable in power (as they have been used to hype Oden's power)
I can't imagine Zoro doing this to Jack, let alone doing it as quickly as Ashura Doji did, until he masters Enma
Denjiro is hyped to be around as strong as Ashura Doji
Popular theory is that Denjiro is Kyoshiro, who did this
You get the impression that Kyoshiro > Zoro here. So assuming that theory is true, Zoro is around the top scabbards for power right now but will surpass them when Enma is tamed.
YC4/YC3 now
YC1 or thereabouts
Basically
Raizo < Kanjuro < Kikunojo < Kin'emon < Nekomamushi = Inuarashi ~ Kawamatsu < Current Zoro < Denjiro (If he is Kyoshiro) ~ Ashura Doji < Mastered Enma Zoro
This is not true. It stated that everyone who has tried to has been unable to. The scabbards, to our knowledge, would not betray Oden and try to take his sword, so it's VERY unlikely those guys even attempted such a feat unless Oden let them try while they were alive.
It's clear he's more powerful than the ones we've seen the upper limits of at least. That being:
Kin'emon
Kanjuro
Raizo
Now. Let it be known that those three are the weakest scabbards we have seen - though I would suspect Kikunojo is also around that level of power. The problem for Zoro comes when we talk about Kawamatsu, Inuarashi, Nekomamushi and Ashura Doji.
Now, it is very likely Zoro is stronger than Kawamatsu, Inuarashi and Nekomamushi - given I think Zoro can push YC3 (being generous) whereas two of them had to 2v1 Jack. The problem comes when you look at Ashura Doji and Denjiro - the two strongest scabbards. IF these two are paired together, we can assume they're comparable in power (as they have been used to hype Oden's power)
I can't imagine Zoro doing this to Jack, let alone doing it as quickly as Ashura Doji did, until he masters Enma
Popular theory is that Denjiro is Kyoshiro, who did this
YC4/YC3 now
YC1 or thereabouts
Basically
Raizo < Kanjuro < Kikunojo < Kin'emon < Nekomamushi = Inuarashi ~ Kawamatsu < Current Zoro < Denjiro (If he is Kyoshiro) ~ Ashura Doji < Mastered Enma Zoro
Again that doesn’t automatically put him above the scabbards. For example with regard to Sandai Kitetsu, there were tons of swordsmen that were driven to ruin as a result of welding Kitetsu prior to Zoro but that doesn’t make Zoro stronger than them, it just means he has the pre-requisite mental fortitude & disposition to be able to wield the sword. It’s something he was born with that distinguishes him from other swordsmen. Special != Stronger.
I'm going against the consensus here. I don't think Zoro is as powerful as Kyoshiro (who I think is Denjiro) or Ashura Doji just yet
This is not true. It stated that everyone who has tried to has been unable to. The scabbards, to our knowledge, would not betray Oden and try to take his sword, so it's VERY unlikely those guys even attempted such a feat unless Oden let them try while they were alive.
It's clear he's more powerful than the ones we've seen the upper limits of at least. That being:
Kin'emon
Kanjuro
Raizo
Now. Let it be known that those three are the weakest scabbards we have seen - though I would suspect Kikunojo is also around that level of power. The problem for Zoro comes when we talk about Kawamatsu, Inuarashi, Nekomamushi and Ashura Doji.
Now, it is very likely Zoro is stronger than Kawamatsu, Inuarashi and Nekomamushi - given I think Zoro can push YC3 (being generous) whereas two of them had to 2v1 Jack. The problem comes when you look at Ashura Doji and Denjiro - the two strongest scabbards. IF these two are paired together, we can assume they're comparable in power (as they have been used to hype Oden's power)
I can't imagine Zoro doing this to Jack, let alone doing it as quickly as Ashura Doji did, until he masters Enma
Denjiro is hyped to be around as strong as Ashura Doji
Popular theory is that Denjiro is Kyoshiro, who did this
You get the impression that Kyoshiro > Zoro here. So assuming that theory is true, Zoro is around the top scabbards for power right now but will surpass them when Enma is tamed.
YC4/YC3 now
YC1 or thereabouts
Basically
Raizo < Kanjuro < Kikunojo < Kin'emon < Nekomamushi = Inuarashi ~ Kawamatsu < Current Zoro < Denjiro (If he is Kyoshiro) ~ Ashura Doji < Mastered Enma Zoro
This is not true. It stated that everyone who has tried to has been unable to. The scabbards, to our knowledge, would not betray Oden and try to take his sword, so it's VERY unlikely those guys even attempted such a feat unless Oden let them try while they were alive.
It's clear he's more powerful than the ones we've seen the upper limits of at least. That being:
Kin'emon
Kanjuro
Raizo
Now. Let it be known that those three are the weakest scabbards we have seen - though I would suspect Kikunojo is also around that level of power. The problem for Zoro comes when we talk about Kawamatsu, Inuarashi, Nekomamushi and Ashura Doji.
Now, it is very likely Zoro is stronger than Kawamatsu, Inuarashi and Nekomamushi - given I think Zoro can push YC3 (being generous) whereas two of them had to 2v1 Jack. The problem comes when you look at Ashura Doji and Denjiro - the two strongest scabbards. IF these two are paired together, we can assume they're comparable in power (as they have been used to hype Oden's power)
I can't imagine Zoro doing this to Jack, let alone doing it as quickly as Ashura Doji did, until he masters Enma
Popular theory is that Denjiro is Kyoshiro, who did this
YC4/YC3 now
YC1 or thereabouts
Basically
Raizo < Kanjuro < Kikunojo < Kin'emon < Nekomamushi = Inuarashi ~ Kawamatsu < Current Zoro < Denjiro (If he is Kyoshiro) ~ Ashura Doji < Mastered Enma Zoro
Oh i agree and I acknowledge that
but the key thing is to look at how Zoro is definitely trying - especially given the situational context, and yet there Kyoshiro is just chuckling away, playing games - almost toying with Zoro. To me it looks like 3 sword Zoro right now would make Kyoshiro try, but I doubt it would be more than a mid diff fight for him
I suspect Zoro will master Enma while fighting Kyoshiro and then take on King having accomplished that feat - Until we know who Denjiro is we shouldn't let this affect our answer, but it is worth baring in mind
but the key thing is to look at how Zoro is definitely trying - especially given the situational context, and yet there Kyoshiro is just chuckling away, playing games - almost toying with Zoro. To me it looks like 3 sword Zoro right now would make Kyoshiro try, but I doubt it would be more than a mid diff fight for him
I suspect Zoro will master Enma while fighting Kyoshiro and then take on King having accomplished that feat - Until we know who Denjiro is we shouldn't let this affect our answer, but it is worth baring in mind
