World War 3

Nazi, Soviet, or whatever it is, nothing from 19th century has ever surpassed the cruelty of Imperial Japan

Imo Nazi and Soviet looks like childs play when compared to Imperial Japan in terms of war crime
And no one didn't blame Hirohito. Instead of the emperor, the government was blamed and some government members were executed.
 
You can thank the US for that
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And it's truly unknown how much control Hirohito actually had over his government
I know that the United States protected Hirohito in exchange for information about the Japanese Empire's experiments on humans. The American state, which condones crime here, is also guilty. (Also Commander-in-chief MacArthur)



As you said, there is an unknown situation in this regard, but I think everyone agrees that the Japanese Emperors at that time were not symbolic as they are today.
 
You can thank the US for that
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And it's truly unknown how much control Hirohito actually had over his government
Tojo mislead japan to the war. Hirohito had no power during wartime .
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And no one didn't blame Hirohito. Instead of the emperor, the government was blamed and some government members were executed.
To this day it has been subjectof controversy how much power he actually had ?

It was said he was infulenced by war time generals like tojo to egg on america. Its possible he was part of inner circle what was happening.

Mcarthur had great respect for Tojo and Japsnese culture also there was fear stalin wouldmake Japany communist. It was tactical understanding.

I would say he should be included in war crimes .
 
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An interesting analysis from the Russian side: https://valdaiclub.com/a/highlights/ukraine-three-scenarios/
From this we can conclude that Russia knows exactly what it's doing and that this conflict will keep us busy for a long time. Ivan Timofeev is not just anyone, he is the head of the Euro-Atlantic Security Program in the Valdai Club, Moscow's geopolitically most important think tank.
Problem here is in Russian statement that Ukraine created tension for Russia, while we know how Russia play out with some of ukranian territories including Crimea annection, plus some part of millitary forces invaded Ukraine in 2014 in Donbass territory, which again was denied by Russian goverment. So now really big part of russian millitary forces invaded Ukraine, and we don't see any difference between war that happened in Donbass and this war, in terms of power. True, because of fact that russia attacked from everywhere Ukraine started to lose war at first days, but right now it is obvios that Ukraine wasn't lying about fact that they was dealing with russian army, russian millitary vehicles from 2014 year.
Ukraine wanted to join NATO because of invasion, so politic of Putin created this anti-Russian course. Ukraine just defend own lands from Usurper politic of Russia, who is trying to look like a World Savior
 

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Zelensky says he's not gonna opt for NATO membership from now on—it's too last at this point but let's hope Putin responds positively.
 

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Zelensky says he's not gonna opt for NATO membership from now on—it's too last at this point but let's hope Putin responds positively.
It is a masterful move from Zelensky saying that

Cause he right now said he will do what Putin wants - non NATO member on his border - and the ball is in Putin's court

If Putin rejects this then he is shooting himself in the leg, cause the war goal of preventing is beibg declined

If Putin accepts, war ends with a big smeer on Russia's military might

Gonna be interesting what Putin responds. He cant prolong this because Finland, Sweden, Turkey are getting closer and closer to Europe.

Combined with Russia's economy in fucking shambles and loses he is suffering... the more he is in the war the worse Russian people will suffer, and the more they suffer the harder it will be for hi
 
Problem here is in Russian statement that Ukraine created tension for Russia, while we know how Russia play out with some of ukranian territories including Crimea annection, plus some part of millitary forces invaded Ukraine in 2014 in Donbass territory, which again was denied by Russian goverment. So now really big part of russian millitary forces invaded Ukraine, and we don't see any difference between war that happened in Donbass and this war, in terms of power. True, because of fact that russia attacked from everywhere Ukraine started to lose war at first days, but right now it is obvios that Ukraine wasn't lying about fact that they was dealing with russian army, russian millitary vehicles from 2014 year.
Ukraine wanted to join NATO because of invasion, so politic of Putin created this anti-Russian course. Ukraine just defend own lands from Usurper politic of Russia, who is trying to look like a World Savior

Mmm but Ukraine was bombarding his own people which are the states that Putin declared as independent so he could intervine. He has been talking about this on the ONU since 2014, this is the reason why they signed a treaty which is violated since then.

At the end, it was Ukraine that triggered it. Or that is the other side of the story
 
Mmm but Ukraine was bombarding his own people which are the states that Putin declared as independent so he could intervine. He has been talking about this on the ONU since 2014, this is the reason why they signed a treaty which is violated since then.

At the end, it was Ukraine that triggered it. Or that is the other side of the story
Again that was lie, how exactly Ukraine wasn't able to defeat just people who was trying to call part of Ukraine territory independant, while in same time Ukraine is able to stop russian regular army. Truth is that russian army was always on Donbass territories. So next question is what people wanted to join Russia, if there was already russian soldiers? Basically this is what you can call terrorism, when you have armed people from other country on the street.
Now talking about Ukraine who was bombarding own people. Please google Donetsk and how it look right now, then google how Mariupol, Charkiv is looking right now. You will see the difference. Ukrainian army was trying to destroy only enemies units who was hiding near civil buildings, while russian army is basically destroying,or trying to destroy, everything on their way. They don't think how many civil people will die. That is clear difference, also this show lie of Russian side.
 
Again that was lie, how exactly Ukraine wasn't able to defeat just people who was trying to call part of Ukraine territory independant, while in same time Ukraine is able to stop russian regular army.
Dude. Stop. Contested regions was bombed by ukranians army for many years. Fact. There was countless videos over the years. And OSCE observers was there for years. Russians was probably present only as a military advisers/ weapon suppliers.
Your second point is ukrainian army actually stop Russians? I mean this is kinda bullshit. What towns/villages did they retake?
Propaganda going on about ukrainian army success for one reason.
They didn't want to cause a panic and they need to mobilize as many people as possible.
 
Again that was lie, how exactly Ukraine wasn't able to defeat just people who was trying to call part of Ukraine territory independant, while in same time Ukraine is able to stop russian regular army. Truth is that russian army was always on Donbass territories. So next question is what people wanted to join Russia, if there was already russian soldiers? Basically this is what you can call terrorism, when you have armed people from other country on the street.
Now talking about Ukraine who was bombarding own people. Please google Donetsk and how it look right now, then google how Mariupol, Charkiv is looking right now. You will see the difference. Ukrainian army was trying to destroy only enemies units who was hiding near civil buildings, while russian army is basically destroying,or trying to destroy, everything on their way. They don't think how many civil people will die. That is clear difference, also this show lie of Russian side.
There is videos, I don't know if it is a lie, but the evidence is pretty heavy.

As Putin said, he is part of the global economy, why would he put the rope on his neck for no reason?

I am not in favor of war, I am just saying I understand how he thought.
 
Dude. Stop. Contested regions was bombed by ukranians army for many years. Fact. There was countless videos over the years. And OSCE observers was there for years. Russians was probably present only as a military advisers/ weapon suppliers.
Your second point is ukrainian army actually stop Russians? I mean this is kinda bullshit. What towns/villages did they retake?
Propaganda going on about ukrainian army success for one reason.
They didn't want to cause a panic and they need to mobilize as many people as possible.
As I said truth is always something that you can find. I didn't say that Ukraine didn't use millitary against Donbass, I said that in comparison with russian army their goal was never to creat a terror, attack civils just to attack civils. Those territories was ocupied by enemy forces, so you can't win war without attacking them, and ofc some civils building could be destroyed for sure, case this is war, BUT as I said if armies main goal is defeating enemy, not destroying city then city overall will look nice, and that the case with Donetsk, you can google and find true if you really want.
Now talking about ukranians who stopped russian army, truth is that Russia has just bigger millitary power, so they got forces that able to push ukranian army and defeat em, but they didn't conquer any big city. They was trying to defeat army in Mariupol for 14 days with 120.000 army, and russian sources say that in Mariupol locates 25.000- 40.000 ukranian soldiers. This is why now russian forces is trying to burn city to the ground, case they don't have any choice left.
You see in 1941 - 1945 Ukraine never was conquered by Hitler even with much bigger forces and same thing happening now.Russians are fighting for money, while ukranians fight for their homes and their land. Spirit and desire to never give up, surprise attacks from everywhere is enough to demoralise any army that is trying occupie another country. That was real problem for Hitler and now it is problem to Putin.
 
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As I said truth is always something that you can find. I didn't say that Ukraine didn't use millitary against Donbass, I said that in comparison with russian army their goal was never to creat a terror, attack civils just to attack civils. Those territories was ocupied by enemy forces, so you can't win war without attacking them, and ofc some civils building could be destroyed for sure, case this is war, BUT as I said if armies main goal is defeating enemy, not destroying city then city overall will look nice, and that the case with Donetsk, you can google and find true if you really want.
Now talking about ukranians who stopped russian army, truth is that Russia has just bigger millitary power, so they got forces that able to push ukranian army and defeat em, but they didn't conquer any big city. They was trying to defeat army in Mariupol for 14 days with 120.000 army, and rusdian sources say that in Mariupol locates 25.000- 40.000 ukranian soldiers. This is why now russian forces is trying to burn city to the ground, case they don't have any choice left.
You see in 1941 - 1945 Ukraine never was conquered by Hitler even with much bigger forces and same thing happening now.Russians are fighting for money, while ukranians fight for their homes and their land. Spirit and desire to never give up, surprise attacks from everywhere is enough to demoralise any army that is trying occupie another country. That was real problem for Hitler and now it is problem to Putin.
Why for money?
 
Case russian army is payed for that goal, they burn to the ground few cities like Schastie and Volnovaha, russian speaking langauage cities that they come to "protect", now they are trying to do same thing with Mariupol. You can google that this city was prosper 15 days ago, while now it is look like ruins. Also there are more then 50.000 of civils who are hiding, while russians didn't allow creating Green Corridor for civils case they fear that with vehicles that will come to evacuate those people, there will be hidden millitary back up for Ukranian soldiers who are surrounded in that city with 120.000 army.
So russians there come to kill any ukranians, create a terror, so there cannot be any noble idea for doimg that. While now question is why they are fighting? Answer is because of money, because goverment give em free apartment etc. So this is why they don't have any big success in this war. Again big millitary power should mean that they should be able with ease defeat any ukranian forces, while if we took Mariupol as example this is clearly not the case. You see there was already hundreds of examples where ukranian soldiers with a cost of life burn bringes or doing something value to stop russian army. If you come to fight in war just case you was payed for it, you wouldn't be able for doing real heroic actions. And this is main problem for russian army. Now another problem is any big cities. You see they wasn't able enter in Kiev that was surrounded for 14 days already, because this is unkown city for them. While citizens in Kiev who knew city and joined army also knew how destroy your enemy without beign killed. Russian army week ago made attempt to conquer Charkiv with entering city, there are videos of that: more that 15 tiger's who are supported with group of 10 people, including grenade launchers. In conclusion more than 8 tigers was burned, and almost all of those russians was killed. After that they started to burn civil buildings to create terror, commiting war crimes. Also this is reason why russian army is located almost everywhere near villages. They have fear, plus they are attacked from everywhere...they don't feel save at all. So any army and millitary vehicles never was infinity force that has replacement. Each day ukranians kill more and more russian soldiers, and each day this war became real pain in ass for Putin and his army. Spirit, Heroic actions and understanding that there is no where for you to run could create real miracles. History just reapeating itself, Ukraine never gived up to Hitler for 4 years of war and will never give up to Putin. Just for comparison almost any country Hitler conquered in few hours,he captured France in few days. Ukranians are not just another army, they was facing same enemy 60 years ago already, they are fighting for their land, so this thing only give them strenght.
 
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d. I didn't say that Ukraine didn't use millitary against Donbass, I said that in comparison with russian army their goal was never to creat a terror, attack civils just to attack civils.
They bomb cities with artillery. I remember there was some gruesome photos with dead civilians on the middle of the street(no military objects in vicinity)
Case russian army is payed for that goal, they burn to the ground few cities like Schastie and Volnovaha, russian speaking langauage cities that they come to "protect", now they are trying to do same thing with Mariupol.
Wait what?:seriously:Volhovaha and Schhastie were captured by the Russians on February 23-24.
And then someone (who could it be?) began massive bombing.
So russians there come to kill any ukranians, create a terror,
damn
Look dude. There is a lot of ukranians prisoners out there.
Like remember snake island capture? all 80 ukranians who surrender is fine.
And not because Putin is such a nice guy. They just trying to thin out enemy forces. Like either you fight and die or surrender and live. Remember there is many reservist troops in ukr army.
 
They bomb cities with artillery. I remember there was some gruesome photos with dead civilians on the middle of the street(no military objects in vicinity)

Wait what?:seriously:Volhovaha and Schhastie were captured by the Russians on February 23-24.
And then someone (who could it be?) began massive bombing.

damn
Look dude. There is a lot of ukranians prisoners out there.
Like remember snake island capture? all 80 ukranians who surrender is fine.
And not because Putin is such a nice guy. They just trying to thin out enemy forces. Like either you fight and die or surrender and live. Remember there is many reservist troops in ukr army.
Check out yours souces again case those are lying sorces. Volnovaha and Schastie was ukranian territories, and you can see in official russian sources that even 1 march, russian army was bombarding Volnovaha case of fact that there was ukranian army. Plus to that there is official page of Volnovaha in facebook, where you can find post about creating evacuation from Volnovaha of all civils by ukranian army who was still there.
This is war, so you can expect that many sources was lying, but you still can find true. I will say more, even two days ago russian army continued to bombard Volnovaha case there still located small group of ukranian army.
Most trustful source about Ukraine right now is Anatoliy Shariy who is doing life streams for helping civil people. He is called as criminal in Ukraine for nothing, so he has official refugee status. Also he is known in russian sources, as man who was trying to uncover truth about Donbass, and helping people who live there. So his group of journalist are also trying to filter any false information and doing their job pretty nicely. So if you really intrested in what happening in Ukraine try that source.
While russian sources is same that listening sources from Mars. Bandermobile, phosphorus bomb and some chemistry labs that create unknown weapon - all this they will say without proves, or any evidence, case they don't have em. Basically they will just say anything to justife war crimes that was commited in Ukraine by their army.
 
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