General & Others Cipher Pol Aigis 0 - Structure, Manpower, Operations

How many Operators available?/How many Operations in progress?

  • 10+ Operators

  • 20+ Operators

  • 30+ Operators

  • 40+ Operators

  • 50+ Operators

  • 2 Operations

  • 3 Operations

  • 4 Operations

  • 5 Operations

  • More than 5 Operations


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#1
I think it's time to take our time and reflect on the unanswered questions about Cipher Pol Aigis 0. If you think about it, we still don't have a proper explenation of how Cipher Pol Aigis 0 is structured, how many agents it counts, how are they organized, how many operations they control...
I'll try to make some deductions using the intel we have.

My assumption is that CP0 doesn't count a large numbers of agents. Even the fodder around them are Governative Agents but not real CP0 agents who are few professionals.
My estimate is a total of 20 Operatives (+-).

We know about 8 of them:
- Rob Lucci
- Kaku
- Stussy

- Mr. Go
- Flower Mask
- Maha

- Tribal Mask

- Spandam

Now, we can easily extrapolate Lucci and Go as the leaders of the two CP0 plotlines we've been following. Yeah, in case you didn't notice, we've seen two distinct groups sneaking through the plot. But we'll get to that.
For now, let's look a little into the Leaders:

- Mr. Go, he is the head of the Pirate-Deal Operation.
At first, this operation had him doing business with Doflamingo (obviously, under the instructions of Gorosei and the few superiors he has) to buy weapons from the Black Market. He was most likely the same man who schemed with Doflamingo the assassination of a Warloard, Moria, before the timeskip.
After the timeskip, he was still in contact with Doflamingo, doing business with him as the latter was a major weapons provider for the World Govt. who also happened to have the knowledge and blood to hold World Govt. balls.
On top of that, Mr. Go acted as a facilitator with his team (Flower Mask & Tribal Mask) to make Doflamingo's plan go smooth.

But they weren't on the island when the Dressrosa incident happened. Yeah, incident, cause that blow up exposed them a lot: they lost a major business partner and left him (and his secrets) in the Navy's hands (aka outside their control).
Mr. Go, this time with Flower Mask & Maha, headed to Wano and tried to deal with Orochi to negotiate and buy Kaido's weapons directly. Its fair to say that, since Dressrosa, Mr. Go's unit has been put under real pressure. Something that both Orochi and Apoo didn't miss to note.

This night, in Onigashima, Mr. Go status has gone MIA, Maha's WIA. Flower Mask is the last one standing.

- Rob Lucci, former prodigy of Cipher Pol 9. He joined during the timeskip and seems like he quickly rose through the ranks. In fact, looks like he is the leader of the Counter-Revolutionary Operation. We got the first hints about this right after the Dressrosa incident.

Should be noted that even tho Dressrosa was Go's responsability to handle, Lucci went (with Spandam and probably Kaku) to investigate instead cause that was specifically Revolutionary track.
It's most likely Lucci's unit that tried to attack Baltigo, ending in a skirmish with the Blackbeard Pirates instead.
While the Pirate-Deal Operation was in Wano, trying to fix the business problems caused by Luffy and Law, the Counter-Revolutionary Operation was in Marie Joise on security duty during the period of the Reverie. Here, Lucci was leading Kaku, Stussy and Tribal Mask.
Is it yet another coincidence that a big incident just happened? That Lucci's unit most likely faced the Revolutionaries once again? Oda is clearly building a plot here.

We also saw recently the only on-panel interaction between Lucci and Mr. Go. In my opinion, it showcased sort of an equality in term of ranks or Lucci as a superior at most.
I'm assuming the first case: up to this point, Lucci has been the leader of the Counter-Revolutionary Operation (CRO), Mr. Go has been the leader of the Pirate-Deal Operation (PDO).
When it comes to the agents distribution in these two operations we can subgroup them:
- Agents committed to a single operation ---> Kaku (CRO), Stussy (CRO, even tho she was operating solo up to the Reverie), Flower Mask (PDO), Maha (PDO, even tho he/she wasn't seen in Dressrosa)
- Agents seen on both operations ---> Tribal Mask (CRO/PDO, he's kind of an anomaly)
- Joke Agents ---> Spandam (even tho you could label CRO since he's Lucci's pet)

Now, after this night in Onigashima, the Pirate-Deal Operation will be officially shut down. Mr. Go and Maha are already gone, Kaido/Orochi reigns will be over, weapons factories dismantled or destroyed, Wano annexation to the WG will be pushed back. This operation is destined to come to an end this night.
Buuut, that brings us to another point, the most interesting. CRO & PDO are not the only two Cipher Pol Aigis 0 is executing... Before, I said that my estimation is a total of 20 operatives (+5 tollerance) cause there are imo another 2-3 major operations currently ongoing, the 2 I'm more confident on are the following:
- One connected to Shanks/Teach plotline
- One connected to Vegapunk/SSG plotline
Both of these will for sure have men of the caliber of Lucci and Go leading them.
I'm leaving the possibility of a 5th operation too, mostly cause I think CP0 structure will mimic the very prime symbol of the World Govt.
Or maybe the 5th core, the central one, is not an operation but the leader of CP0 himself, with executive power of all the 4 operations...

Overall, my take is that Cipher Pol Aigis 0 is composed of 4-5 Chiefs of Operations (conducting an operation each) with 3-4 Agents (to each) under their command. I'm curious about your opinion.



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#3
Very well written thread.

I believe that CP-0 has either 19/20 agents, mostly because there are 19(20 including the Nefetari family) celestial dragon families.

I'm leaving the possibility of a 5th operation too, mostly cause I think CP0 structure will mimic the very prime symbol of the World Govt.
Or maybe the 5th core, the central one, is not an operation but the leader of CP0 himself, with executive power of all the 4 operations...
Interesting.

We know that there are 5 main seas in the OP world(4 Blues and the Grand Line) and 5 Gorosei. I like the idea of the Gorosei each having direct command over one of the 5 operations and seas.

- One connected to Shanks/Teach plotline
- One connected to Vegapunk/SSG plotline
The one connected to the Shanks/Teach plotline will probably be the group that takes care of pirates for the World Nobles, maybe stealing Devil Fruits from them? Would tie into Hancock and her sister's backstory.

The Vegapunk one could be a group that deals with possible enemies inside of the World Government, but this is all speculative.
 

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#7
I think it's time to take our time and reflect on the unanswered questions about Cipher Pol Aigis 0. If you think about it, we still don't have a proper explenation of how Cipher Pol Aigis 0 is structured, how many agents it counts, how are they organized, how many operations they control...
I'll try to make some deductions using the intel we have.

My assumption is that CP0 doesn't count a large numbers of agents. Even the fodder around them are Governative Agents but not real CP0 agents who are few professionals.
My estimate is a total of 20 Operatives (+-).

We know about 8 of them:
- Rob Lucci
- Kaku
- Stussy

- Mr. Go
- Flower Mask
- Maha

- Tribal Mask

- Spandam

Now, we can easily extrapolate Lucci and Go as the leaders of the two CP0 plotlines we've been following. Yeah, in case you didn't notice, we've seen two distinct groups sneaking through the plot. But we'll get to that.
For now, let's look a little into the Leaders:

- Mr. Go, he is the head of the Pirate-Deal Operation.
At first, this operation had him doing business with Doflamingo (obviously, under the instructions of Gorosei and the few superiors he has) to buy weapons from the Black Market. He was most likely the same man who schemed with Doflamingo the assassination of a Warloard, Moria, before the timeskip.
After the timeskip, he was still in contact with Doflamingo, doing business with him as the latter was a major weapons provider for the World Govt. who also happened to have the knowledge and blood to hold World Govt. balls.
On top of that, Mr. Go acted as a facilitator with his team (Flower Mask & Tribal Mask) to make Doflamingo's plan go smooth.

But they weren't on the island when the Dressrosa incident happened. Yeah, incident, cause that blow up exposed them a lot: they lost a major business partner and left him (and his secrets) in the Navy's hands (aka outside their control).
Mr. Go, this time with Flower Mask & Maha, headed to Wano and tried to deal with Orochi to negotiate and buy Kaido's weapons directly. Its fair to say that, since Dressrosa, Mr. Go's unit has been put under real pressure. Something that both Orochi and Apoo didn't miss to note.

This night, in Onigashima, Mr. Go status has gone MIA, Maha's WIA. Flower Mask is the last one standing.

- Rob Lucci, former prodigy of Cipher Pol 9. He joined during the timeskip and seems like he quickly rose through the ranks. In fact, looks like he is the leader of the Counter-Revolutionary Operation. We got the first hints about this right after the Dressrosa incident.

Should be noted that even tho Dressrosa was Go's responsability to handle, Lucci went (with Spandam and probably Kaku) to investigate instead cause that was specifically Revolutionary track.
It's most likely Lucci's unit that tried to attack Baltigo, ending in a skirmish with the Blackbeard Pirates instead.
While the Pirate-Deal Operation was in Wano, trying to fix the business problems caused by Luffy and Law, the Counter-Revolutionary Operation was in Marie Joise on security duty during the period of the Reverie. Here, Lucci was leading Kaku, Stussy and Tribal Mask.
Is it yet another coincidence that a big incident just happened? That Lucci's unit most likely faced the Revolutionaries once again? Oda is clearly building a plot here.

We also saw recently the only on-panel interaction between Lucci and Mr. Go. In my opinion, it showcased sort of an equality in term of ranks or Lucci as a superior at most.
I'm assuming the first case: up to this point, Lucci has been the leader of the Counter-Revolutionary Operation (CRO), Mr. Go has been the leader of the Pirate-Deal Operation (PDO).
When it comes to the agents distribution in these two operations we can subgroup them:
- Agents committed to a single operation ---> Kaku (CRO), Stussy (CRO, even tho she was operating solo up to the Reverie), Flower Mask (PDO), Maha (PDO, even tho he/she wasn't seen in Dressrosa)
- Agents seen on both operations ---> Tribal Mask (CRO/PDO, he's kind of an anomaly)
- Joke Agents ---> Spandam (even tho you could label CRO since he's Lucci's pet)

Now, after this night in Onigashima, the Pirate-Deal Operation will be officially shut down. Mr. Go and Maha are already gone, Kaido/Orochi reigns will be over, weapons factories dismantled or destroyed, Wano annexation to the WG will be pushed back. This operation is destined to come to an end this night.
Buuut, that brings us to another point, the most interesting. CRO & PDO are not the only two Cipher Pol Aigis 0 is executing... Before, I said that my estimation is a total of 20 operatives (+5 tollerance) cause there are imo another 2-3 major operations currently ongoing, the 2 I'm more confident on are the following:
- One connected to Shanks/Teach plotline
- One connected to Vegapunk/SSG plotline
Both of these will for sure have men of the caliber of Lucci and Go leading them.
I'm leaving the possibility of a 5th operation too, mostly cause I think CP0 structure will mimic the very prime symbol of the World Govt.
Or maybe the 5th core, the central one, is not an operation but the leader of CP0 himself, with executive power of all the 4 operations...

Overall, my take is that Cipher Pol Aigis 0 is composed of 4-5 Chiefs of Operations (conducting an operation each) with 3-4 Agents (to each) under their command. I'm curious about your opinion.



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This was fantastic. Very impressive how you deduced the different factions based on different CP0 agent movements.

I never thought about this before.

Kudos.
 
#9
- Mr. Go, he is the head of the Pirate-Deal Operation.
At first, this operation had him doing business with Doflamingo (obviously, under the instructions of Gorosei and the few superiors he has) to buy weapons from the Black Market. He was most likely the same man who schemed with Doflamingo the assassination of a Warloard, Moria, before the timeskip.
Great read overall. @rerere
Are these the official manga colors that you posted? If not then I think the person who was talking with Doffy isn't Mr. Go himself for sure.
I hate to use this as evidence but in the anime the voices and skin tones for both characters are different.
 
#11
Very well written thread.

I believe that CP-0 has either 19/20 agents, mostly because there are 19(20 including the Nefetari family) celestial dragon families.



Interesting.

We know that there are 5 main seas in the OP world(4 Blues and the Grand Line) and 5 Gorosei. I like the idea of the Gorosei each having direct command over one of the 5 operations and seas.



The one connected to the Shanks/Teach plotline will probably be the group that takes care of pirates for the World Nobles, maybe stealing Devil Fruits from them? Would tie into Hancock and her sister's backstory.

The Vegapunk one could be a group that deals with possible enemies inside of the World Government, but this is all speculative.
Your take on the unit taking care of pirates is interesting.. could those guys be the same Doflamingo was talking about?
That's some food for thoughts right there

Great read overall. @rerere
Are these the official manga colors that you posted? If not then I think the person who was talking with Doffy isn't Mr. Go himself for sure.
I hate to use this as evidence but in the anime the voices and skin tones for both characters are different.
This comes from the official manga coloring, we can barely see that he's blonde.
Mine is speculation, specially on that regard, but the connection with Mingo and that bowler hat... suggests me that may be the case.
Also, Mr. Go is conveniently hidden even in the only part (ear/hair) we saw of him by the side of the mask.

Could be that I'm wrong, but I'd rather not take anime as counter-proof either...
 
#12
According to Sandman, Lucci (Film Gold) is the "commissioner" or "総監".

(thanks @Photon)

I did some little digging. Here is what I have found.


Notice the differences in medals above.
However, this Lucci is the one featured in One Piece Film: Gold.



This is the current, canon, and official Lucci:

Flower instead of the medal.
In my opinion, Lucci's rank from Film Gold is higher.



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Now let's use some real life examples->

This is the Japanese police rankings:


We will be looking at the two ranks (blue arrows and rectangle).
警察庁長官 and 警視総監 (probably Lucci's Film Gold rank)

As you can see 警察庁長官 is ranked higher than 警視総監.
From what I have gathered and glanced, 警視総監 is the highest position a police officer can be promoted to while still doing police work.

HOWEVER, 警察庁長官 is a position that surpasses it but the job description of this title is more like administration work. So in a way, think of it as Fleet Admiral vs. Admiral in terms of their duties.

Now let's move on to the 公安調査庁 or Public Security Intelligence Agency. This is equivalent to the America's FBI:


長官 > 次長
長官 = Director-General; highest position from the Public Security Intelligence Agency.

I don't know if 次長 is the same as 総監 or the same level. But if I had to guess then yes. You will see why in a bit. [READ NOTE A BELOW]

Then finally we have the 内閣情報調査室 or Cabinet Intelligence and Research Office. This is equivalent to the America's CIA. This is probably the most similar to CP0:

Ranking looks similar to Public Security Intelligence Agency's.

Again, 次長 is positioned #2 while 内閣情報官 is positioned #1 (highest rank).
According to the English translations of both 長官 and 内閣情報官, they basically mean "director" and "director of cabinet intelligence", respectively.


Now, other parts of the world, you have the title "commissioner" as being the highest rank. But I think Oda is using the Japanese ranking system. Therefore, "commissioner" is NOT the highest rank. It could possibly be the second highest rank though!

[NOTE A]

Please take a look at #6, #10, and #11 designated by the blue arrows and then the pink rectangle.


These are ex-directors of the cabinet intelligence. However, the key things are the yellow circles! That's right. You see the characters "総監". The pink rectangle represents former/past jobs. Therefore, this means that they were formerly 総監 but became 内閣情報官 / directors later on.


If we were to rank the CP0 agents then it would probably go something like this:

1.) Mr. Redact / director:


2.) Lucci / commissioner (Film Gold version):


3.) Mr. Go and Lucci / high ranking agents:


4.) ???
5.) ???
6.) ???​

Feel free to correct me because I may be wrong on so many things here.
 
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#13
According to Sandman, Lucci (Film Gold) is the "commissioner" or "総監".

(thanks @Photon)

I did some little digging. Here is what I have found.


Notice the differences in medals above.
However, this Lucci is the one featured in One Piece Film: Gold.



This is the current, canon, and official Lucci:

Flower instead of the medal.
In my opinion, Lucci's rank from Film Gold is higher.



------------------------------------------------

Now let's use some real life examples->

This is the Japanese police rankings:


We will be looking at the two ranks (blue arrows and rectangle).
警察庁長官 and 警視総監 (probably Lucci's Film Gold rank)

As you can see 警察庁長官 is ranked higher than 警視総監.
From what I have gathered and glanced, 警視総監 is the highest position a police officer can be promoted to while still doing police work.

HOWEVER, 警察庁長官 is a position that surpasses it but the job description of this title is more like administration work. So in a way, think of it as Fleet Admiral vs. Admiral in terms of their duties.

Now let's move on to the 公安調査庁 or Public Security Intelligence Agency. This is equivalent to the America's FBI:


長官 > 次長
長官 = Director-General; highest position from the Public Security Intelligence Agency.

I don't know if 次長 is the same as 総監 or the same level. But if I had to guess then yes. You will see why in a bit. [READ NOTE A BELOW]

Then finally we have the 内閣情報調査室 or Cabinet Intelligence and Research Office. This is equivalent to the America's CIA. This is probably the most similar to CP0:

Ranking looks similar to Public Security Intelligence Agency's.

Again, 次長 is positioned #2 while 内閣情報官 is positioned #1 (highest rank).
According to the English translations of both 長官 and 内閣情報官, they basically mean "director" and "director of cabinet intelligence", respectively.


Now, other parts of the world, you have the title "commissioner" as being the highest rank. But I think Oda is using the Japanese ranking system. Therefore, "commissioner" is NOT the highest rank. It could possibly be the second highest rank though!

[NOTE A]

Please take a look at #6, #10, and #11 designated by the blue arrows and then the pink rectangle.


These are ex-directors of the cabinet intelligence. However, the key things are the yellow circles! That's right. You see the characters "総監". The pink rectangle represents former/past jobs. Therefore, this means that they were formerly 総監 but became 内閣情報官 / directors later on.


If we were to rank the CP0 agents then it would probably go something like this:

1.) Mr. Redact / director:


2.) Lucci / commissioner (Film Gold version):


3.) Mr. Go and Lucci / high ranking agents:


4.) ???
5.) ???
6.) ???​

Feel free to correct me because I may be wrong on so many things here.
Great analysis!
So, if I got it right, Lucci's badge in Film Gold (highest rank an operative can get) rapresents a superior rank to the one he currently suits (during the Reverie).
Lucci's rank in Film Gold ("Director") would indeed show his status as superior to every other rank except, of course, for the very head of the CP0 ("Director of Cabinet Intelligence"). But at the same time, this shouldn't be a rank he achieved yet in the canon.
Tell me if I got it right, but this implies that Lucci will advance of another rank by the time we get to EoS/future arcs and this is foreshadowed by Film Gold.

Also, if I understood your research right (kanji confuse me lol), current Lucci rank is pretty much confirmed to be equal to Go's at this very moment. As said in the thread, my impression after their discussion was of same level of authority or a slight superiority on Lucci's side at most.

But assuming this, we can say there's at least one "Commissioner" superior to the 4-5 "Chiefs of Operations" I theorized about but at the same time inferior to the "Top Director". This, if true, makes the structure larger than the one deducted by me.

By the way, this is exactly the kind of opinion I was asking for
 
#14
Great analysis!
So, if I got it right, Lucci's badge in Film Gold (highest rank an operative can get) rapresents a superior rank to the one he currently suits (during the Reverie).
Lucci's rank in Film Gold ("Director") would indeed show his status as superior to every other rank except, of course, for the very head of the CP0 ("Director of Cabinet Intelligence"). But at the same time, this shouldn't be a rank he achieved yet in the canon.
Tell me if I got it right, but this implies that Lucci will advance of another rank by the time we get to EoS/future arcs and this is foreshadowed by Film Gold.

Also, if I understood your research right (kanji confuse me lol), current Lucci rank is pretty much confirmed to be equal to Go's at this very moment. As said in the thread, my impression after their discussion was of same level of authority or a slight superiority on Lucci's side at most.

But assuming this, we can say there's at least one "Commissioner" superior to the 4-5 "Chiefs of Operations" I theorized about but at the same time inferior to the "Top Director". This, if true, makes the structure larger than the one deducted by me.

By the way, this is exactly the kind of opinion I was asking for
Thanks. Your awesome thread motivated me to look into this a bit deeper.

So, if I got it right, Lucci's badge in Film Gold (highest rank an operative can get) rapresents a superior rank to the one he currently suits (during the Reverie).
Second highest given the information we have so far if we are talking about Gold's Lucci.

Lucci's rank in Film Gold ("Director") would indeed show his status as superior to every other rank except, of course, for the very head of the CP0 ("Director of Cabinet Intelligence"). But at the same time, this shouldn't be a rank he achieved yet in the canon.
Tell me if I got it right, but this implies that Lucci will advance of another rank by the time we get to EoS/future arcs and this is foreshadowed by Film Gold.
He would be the commissioner in Gold.

Lucci, right now in the manga, is probably sitting below commissioner rank or 次長 . Question is how many ranks are between 次長 and his current rank.

Also, if I understood your research right (kanji confuse me lol), current Lucci rank is pretty much confirmed to be equal to Go's at this very moment. As said in the thread, my impression after their discussion was of same level of authority or a slight superiority on Lucci's side at most.
I put them as equals since you did it. Mr. Go and Lucci's ranks are ambiguous and since generally there wouldn't be two people having the same rank -> 内閣情報官 or 次長 then it's likely that their ranks are below.

We don't know which is superior between Mr. Go and Lucci. They could possibly be the same rank but their medals are also different.



Recap:

内閣情報官 -> #1
次長 (Commissioner leveled?) -> probably #2
???
???
???
???

Mr. Go and Lucci are in ??? categories but are superior to the group they are leading.
 
#15
Thanks. Your awesome thread motivated me to look into this a bit deeper.



Second highest given the information we have so far if we are talking about Gold's Lucci.



He would be the commissioner in Gold.

Lucci, right now in the manga, is probably sitting below commissioner rank or 次長 . Question is how many ranks are between 次長 and his current rank.



I put them as equals since you did it. Mr. Go and Lucci's ranks are ambiguous and since generally there wouldn't be two people having the same rank -> 内閣情報官 or 次長 then it's likely that their ranks are below.

We don't know which is superior between Mr. Go and Lucci. They could possibly be the same rank but their medals are also different.



Recap:

内閣情報官 -> #1
次長 (Commissioner leveled?) -> probably #2
???
???
???
???

Mr. Go and Lucci are in ??? categories but are superior to the group they are leading.
I think it's something like this:
1. 内閣情報官 -> Unknown Director, Kong himself being at the top is an alternative too (?)... If you think about it Kong was introduced right after Doflamingo hinted at a power superior to Sengoku's and we saw their meeting right after, it's definitely an option

2. 次長 -> Unknown Commissioner, may be the guy Doflamingo was talking to in Marie Joise (if that's not Mr. Go). Likely Rob Lucci in the future

3. Division Leaders -> Current Lucci, Mr. Go etc...

4. Division Officers -> Kaku, Flower Mask for sure since they seem to be Lucci's and Go's RHMs, Stussy, Maha and Tribal Mask may be of the same rank or one below

5. Eventually, Stussy (pretty sure she is a Division Officer tho), Tribal Mask (same as Stussy), Maha (this is the one I can see go lower)

6. Spandam, who I'm pretty sure is destined to be CP0 eternal rookie
 
#16
I think it's something like this:
1. 内閣情報官 -> Unknown Director, Kong himself being at the top is an alternative too (?)... If you think about it Kong was introduced right after Doflamingo hinted at a power superior to Sengoku's and we saw their meeting right after, it's definitely an option

2. 次長 -> Unknown Commissioner, may be the guy Doflamingo was talking to in Marie Joise (if that's not Mr. Go). Likely Rob Lucci in the future

3. Division Leaders -> Current Lucci, Mr. Go etc...

4. Division Officers -> Kaku, Flower Mask for sure since they seem to be Lucci's and Go's RHMs, Stussy, Maha and Tribal Mask may be of the same rank or one below

5. Eventually, Stussy (pretty sure she is a Division Officer tho), Tribal Mask (same as Stussy), Maha (this is the one I can see go lower)

6. Spandam, who I'm pretty sure is destined to be CP0 eternal rookie
Nice! More or less what I had in mind. :myman:

One thing I noticed is that Fleet Admiral Sakazuki's "medal" or rather flower is different from Sengoku's. So a person being a Fleet Admiral may not receive the same medals.

If this is the case then Lucci, for all we know, could be a commissioner already.
 
#18
Pretty underwhelming if Lucci is the second strongest guy in cipher lol. With how one piece is advancing in powers visually he brings nothing new to the table since Luffy whooped him
Not really an issue to be honest. Multiple character of pre-TS will swiftly be retconed:
- Crocodile was already retconed in Marineford, also give him Awakening and he is easily poaceable at Doflamingo's side (High Commander).
- Enel is a Logia with a form of adv. CoO, imagine of he Awakened the Fruit.. Don't forget how he treated everybody except Luffy during his arc.
- Lucci is a prodigy, a talent. Give him exceptional armament and observation and he's a complete menace.
Hell, just imagine his current Saidairin Rokuogun. Nothing to envy to an harsh blast of adv. CoC.

Only pre-TS villain defeated by Luffy because of his sheer superiority (in Paradise) was literally Moria...


Power Level aside, its undeniable that Oda is reserving him a prime position in CP0, and there are all the basis for it.
 

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#19
Pretty underwhelming if Lucci is the second strongest guy in cipher lol. With how one piece is advancing in powers visually he brings nothing new to the table since Luffy whooped him
Indeed, I'm incessantly hoping he will become the new leader.:josad:

But if the selection will be based off contribution and now power not sure if he will be worthy.
 
#20
So... Flower Mask is on the run.
He didn't look for Mr. Go or for Maha and straight up left Onigashima.
Do you think he's going for the Govt. ships outside Wano to call for reinforcements/retreat? Or is he up for something else?
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In fact, looks like he is the leader of the Counter-Revolutionary Operation.
up to this point, Lucci has been the leader of the Counter-Revolutionary Operation (CRO), Mr. Go has been the leader of the Pirate-Deal Operation (PDO).
Aging well :wellwell:


@VersusPhD
 
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