Future Events Law and Kid's awakenings are going to look ridiculous compared to Luffy's fruit awakening.

#42
When was that said or implied?? Panels not ur brainless assumptions.

Especially considering multiple Yonko!!!! hype it’s Lethality/ AP, not it’s ability to extend Life.
Let it out in the wild?? There offering more money then, being down a ruler of the sea. There’s literally no other DF at the moment we know the WG wants that bad.


It’s not like they sent Admirals or something. They saw the opportunity to prevent Luffy awakening. Nobody arguing if it’s valued. The argument u claiming Laws op op not....
Law fruit was said to be capable of helping doffy take over the world. Slow down on the importance part.... EoS Law might give u a copium overdose.

as far as the Power goes, we’ve yet to see it. But it being massively superior to high top tier offense a bold prediction. Lol glad ur constantly wrong about everything
:gokulaugh:
Here we see someone who thinks law or his DF importance/power is above or close the MC.
 
#47
Not only that, Big Mom was "defeated" by Law and Kid who didn't use Haki in the fight, who don't have any Advanced Haki.

Kaido defeated Luffy who is vastly stronger than Kid and Law three times those Powers-Ups. He had fun against Yamato who has Advanced Kings Haki.

He sprayed the 9 scabbards with his eyes closed. Not to mention the blows he took easily.

All this while carrying an island. I don't understand how Big Mom can be so far from Kaido like that and be so dumb, not thoughtful in battle.
holy shit, I don't understand how people don't get this. It doesn't matter that they didn't have advanced haki.

Law has the most lethal DF in one piece. Law literally exploded Linlin's insides. As for Kid, he controls a fundamental force, it is entirely reasonable that magnetism can be strong enough to bypass Linlin's defense.
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
#49
since the author has decided to make the world government give it more priority .
ofc since we are yet to see what it really is
its more about potential atm
The world government gives Nico Robin more priority than top tiers. What the world government prioritizes does not directly = combat ability.

The fruit might literally be the key to a bunch of things, including the ancient weapons, One Piece etc. infact I'm willing to bet it is. Their fear probably has very little to do with actual combat ability, but more application. Unless you believe Oda will randomly make Luffy God tier out of left field. Heavily doubt it.
 
#50
The world government gives Nico Robin more priority than top tiers. What the world government prioritizes does not directly mean combat ability.

The fruit might literally might be the key to a bunch of things, infact I'm willing to bet it is. Their fear probably has very little to do with actual combat ability, but more application. Unless you believe Oda will randomly make Luffy God tier out of left field. Heavily doubt it.

ofc the reason they prioritize robin and not a top tier is not down to combat ability


but in the case where we are talking about devil fruits the reason is none other than the power/ability the fruit grants and unfortunately since its by the look of things going to play a massive role in how luffy takes on kaido moving forward, the likely implication is combat ability.

as a side note law's fruit wasn't known for its combat ability too
but a capable user has been able to make a lot out of it from a combat perspective

same thing applies here with luffy whether iits a potential application it had in the past , it would be translated into how he fights.

and yes oda is in the process of making luffy as close to godtier as you can get in onepiece...
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
#51
ofc the reason they prioritize robin and not a top tier is not down to combat ability


but in the case where we are talking about devil fruits the reason is none other than the power/ability the fruit grants and unfortunately since its by the look of things going to play a massive role in how luffy takes on kaido moving forward, the likely implication is combat ability.

as a side note law's fruit wasn't known for its combat ability too
but a capable user has been able to make a lot out of it from a combat perspective

same thing applies here with luffy whether iits a potential application it had in the past , it would be translated into how he fights.

and yes oda is in the process of making luffy as close to godtier as you can get in onepiece...
Exactly. The emphasis on Law's fruit's 5 bill hype had very little to do with combat ability.

The same thing applies to Luffy until proven otherwise. Especially because the Cp0 could care less how hard someone punches. It matters not.

This is probably far more than that. I think it's quite obvious, I'd be surprised if I was wrong.
 
#52
Exactly. The emphasis on Law's fruit's 5 bill hype had very little to do with combat ability.

The same thing applies to Luffy until proven otherwise. Especially because the Cp0 could care less how hard someone punches. It matters not.

This is probably far more than that. I think it's quite obvious, I'd be surprised if I was wrong.
fair enough
but zenzu
that emphasis translated to combat prowess since law is a fighter
i think its a tight bet expecting luffy's to not be a similar case.
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
#53
fair enough
but zenzu
that emphasis translated to combat prowess since law is a fighter
i think its a tight bet expecting luffy's to not be a similar case.
No I agree with that.

My point is only feats matter in regards to this. It's why I never bring up Law's 5 bill fruit hype, it matters little. Luffy is a genius but don't get it twisted his fruit has never been a top tier fruit. You don't go from having a fruit portrayed and explicitly shown below Katakuri's, to suddenly God tier above something like the Op Ope which is the most bs rule breaking df in One Piece. Expecting it to do that out of nowhere is setting your expectations far too high when Cp0 most likely care more for future application than simply combat prowess.
 
#54
No I agree with that.

My point is only feats matter in regards to this. It's why I never bring up Law's 5 bill fruit hype, it matters little. Luffy is a genius but don't get it twisted his fruit has never been a top tier fruit. You don't go from having a fruit portrayed and explicitly shown below Katakuri's, to suddenly God tier above something like the Op Ope which is the most bs rule breaking df in One Piece. Expecting it to do that out of nowhere is setting your expectations far too high when Cp0 most likely cares more for future application than simply combat prowess.
fair enough
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
#55
Imo Luffy's fruit is not good for the series in the sense that it comes off as some chosen one tool, where it's vital to him breaking down the world as we know it. For him becoming the true PK and surpassing Roger.

However I doubt it will take credit away from Luffy in actual combat. Luffy is not carried by his fruit in combat, sure his awakening came outta nowhere but if Oda wanted to drive home that point he wouldn't spend over 1000 chapters stating and showing the exact opposite.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#56
Imo Luffy's fruit is not good for the series in the sense that it comes off as some chosen one stuff, where it's vital to him breaking down the world as we know it. For him becoming the true PK and surpassing Roger.

However I doubt it will take credit away from Luffy in actual combat. Luffy is not carried by his fruit in combat, sure his awakening came outta nowhere but if Oda wanted to drive home that point he wouldn't spend over 1000 chapters stating and showing the exact opposite.
Rogers nought but a stepping stone now before the final war so that's out the window.
Luffys bijuu mode with zunisha gonna be a sight to behold
 
#58
Imo Luffy's fruit is not good for the series in the sense that it comes off as some chosen one tool, where it's vital to him breaking down the world as we know it. For him becoming the true PK and surpassing Roger.

However I doubt it will take credit away from Luffy in actual combat. Luffy is not carried by his fruit in combat, sure his awakening came outta nowhere but if Oda wanted to drive home that point he wouldn't spend over 1000 chapters stating and showing the exact opposite.
I think regardless of the fruit luffy is the reincarnation of this joyboy character
and being just that means certain things fall in place like having the same ability boyjoy once had.


I think it isn't good for the series but I think that's exactly what oda is doing ;
making luffy's fruit broken and a key as to how he finally beats kaido in this fight.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#59
I meant surpassing Roger not in strength but in achievements. Roger didn't have the key that Luffy has.

Lmao incoming Bijuu dama.
I don't think he can.
Roger had a proper voyage
A proper multi decade long graft
Sailed every corner of the new world
Just to be told the ride is closed today come back in 25 years

Luffys been fasttracked to fuck and has all the components to reach raftel and beyond in his lap.
 
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