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Realistically speaking do you think Oda is really going to provide a satisfying explanation?
Hard to say, the easiest way is to link everything back to Shanks/Vegapunk and providing some sort of explanation on what exactly is Nika

those fans are at least working with information they are given
not inventing ones in their head to hide shortcomings.
But in the end that's pointless, if they work with what we currently have then chances it will not make sense because lack the required context

Similarly to how gear 2nd was revealed with smoke all around Luffy, that could be considered as an asspull because Luffy has never done that before prior to the transformation

It only made sense after blueno/lucci explained how gear 2nd works.

While the scenarios are abit different ( transformation vs "new devil fruit") raging without an explanation from the author doesn't make sense. If the explanation is trash then fine Oda deserves it.
 
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Joygirl1

Can´t deny to be absolutely hyped by those spoilers =)
Was really shocked at the end of the last chapter and wasn´t sure if I would like what was about to come but I should have trusted Oda in the first place. Yeah, there might still be room for some more explanation about the devil fruit and it´s awakening but on the other hand it was a pretty genious idea planned out a long time ago. Clearly prefer this instead the whole Joyboy reincarnation theory, Luffy should still be Luffy when he (likely) finally defeats Kaido, he should achieve this by himself if he wants to become pirate king. Also the story is about to get more and more interesting from this on, I´m personally fond about how things are developing.

Do still understand that fan reactions will be quite mixed about this.

Zoro can´t be dead by the way, for the sake of Zorobin, he can´t be!
 
Ignoring all the Oda apologizing or hating, how so?
It's still Luffy but with a retconned devil fruit.
Its not the df. Its the idea. Luffy was supposed to have a goofy power which he used in his own creative way to beat his enemies, oda himself said this. Suddenly we learn that his df was actually a sun god who was introduced only 30 chapters ago. You gotta admit this is bad writing no matter how big a Luffy fan you may be
 
Hard to say, the easiest way is to link everything back to Shanks/Vegapunk and providing some sort of explanation on what exactly is Nika



But in the end that's pointless, if they work with what we currently have then chances it will not make sense because lack the required context

Similarly to how gear 2nd was revealed with smoke all around Luffy, that could be considered as an asspull because Luffy has never done that before prior to the transformation

It only made sense after blueno/lucci explained how gear 2nd works.

While the scenarios are abit different ( transformation vs "new devil fruit") the is without an explanation from the author doesn't make sense. If the explanation is trash then fine Oda deserves it.
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Sasaki Kojirō

What? Rayleigh was clearly saying “near-invincible” in the context of non-Haki users only. Do you think Caribou, Smoker, Monet, Caesar, Crocodile, Ace, Enel, and Yami BB deserve to be described as “near-invincible”
Who are you talking to?
Who is this animal that is claiming this?
 
Moving the goal post, first it was "Luffy is possessed!!!" now its "Luffy's personality is a bit different so he's Joy Boy!!!"

Zoans have always affected their users personality, that's been a thing since like chapter 300

Take your L now
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If Luffy is possed then his personality is diferent, thats pretty much the same thing.

If he returns to normal by himself then its a diferent story, if not, then i was right all along.
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