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Zoro is my favourite character but Wano has made me drop One Piece. The Zoro parts of Wano have been great and the most enjoyable part for me, but the rest of it has been dumpster fire. Multiple death fakeouts, absolutely 0 tension, writing hitting the bottom, etc. I just stopped feeling the joy of reading One Piece. It just wasn't it anymore.
I don't think majority of people here hate Wano. I think it is more like 65% like it and 35% hate it. The people who hate it are more active because the discussion surrounding the quality of Wano is more interesting than someone creating a love fest post about Wano lol.
Regarding Zoro, I don't really care for any character in One Piece but to me the best fight in Wano was Zoro vs Killer. It was quick but had an emotional aspect to it and a nice plot twist. I also liked how Zoro got stabbed and started smiling because at that point I thought it had something to do with his cursed sword but nope nothing. It turned out all the hype Oda did with cursed swords were all for nothing just like the whole series is all for nothing.
My two cents.
Regarding Zoro, I don't really care for any character in One Piece but to me the best fight in Wano was Zoro vs Killer. It was quick but had an emotional aspect to it and a nice plot twist. I also liked how Zoro got stabbed and started smiling because at that point I thought it had something to do with his cursed sword but nope nothing. It turned out all the hype Oda did with cursed swords were all for nothing just like the whole series is all for nothing.
My two cents.
I guess one of the primary reasons why Zoro fans dislike Wano is because Zoro, someway somehow, is both significant and insignificant at the same time.
It feels like he is involved in many plot-lines, yet they don't really go anywhere.
A few examples:
- Zoro bonded with Yasu and promised to avenge him, yet nothing relating to this has happened so far.
- What is the purpose of his relationship with Hiyori? Is it simply so that she can give him Enma?
- Zoro's interest in forging a black blade got brought up twice in Act II but nothing.
- Zoro looks exactly like Ryuma and Ushimaru, why does this matter?
Another funny one.
In 997, Zoro says that he came to Onigashima specifically to slay Kaido. Of course, this so far has gone nowhere, and it ends up being that his main goal of the raid has been abandoned so that he can fix a problem (no one fighting King) that didn't need to be there in the first place. He isn't the only one who has had their arc goal be dropped, the same happened to Kid.
Why? So that Luffy can shine. The problem isn't that Luffy is getting to fight Kaido all alone. It's that Oda bothered to create these 'goals' so that characters other than Luffy aim to fight Kaido, but in the end they got moved around to fight characters they didn't care at all about.
If Zoro's end purpose was to defeat King, don't make him have a declaration saying he came to Onigashima to fight Kaido.
If Kid's end purpose was to help defeat Big Mom, don't make his entire arc mission to defeat Kaido... Lol
A future potential problem that I see is Zoro's acquisition of Conqueror's Haki not being important besides as a power up.
Again, it feels like everything is set up for him to have a leadership moment tying everything starting from what he said in Zou, but it still feels like Oda might simply not care.
If the ending of this arc is anything like Thriller Bark, which ended with Zoro's biggest character moment in the story, even until now. Then, many of the problems can be 'solved'. Maybe the Grim Reaper is the start of this moment, who knows? But if nothing happens (no pun intended), then it really seems like Oda came up with a bunch of ideas for Zoro, then gave up mid way.
It feels like he is involved in many plot-lines, yet they don't really go anywhere.
A few examples:
- Zoro bonded with Yasu and promised to avenge him, yet nothing relating to this has happened so far.
- What is the purpose of his relationship with Hiyori? Is it simply so that she can give him Enma?
- Zoro's interest in forging a black blade got brought up twice in Act II but nothing.
- Zoro looks exactly like Ryuma and Ushimaru, why does this matter?
Another funny one.
In 997, Zoro says that he came to Onigashima specifically to slay Kaido. Of course, this so far has gone nowhere, and it ends up being that his main goal of the raid has been abandoned so that he can fix a problem (no one fighting King) that didn't need to be there in the first place. He isn't the only one who has had their arc goal be dropped, the same happened to Kid.
Why? So that Luffy can shine. The problem isn't that Luffy is getting to fight Kaido all alone. It's that Oda bothered to create these 'goals' so that characters other than Luffy aim to fight Kaido, but in the end they got moved around to fight characters they didn't care at all about.
If Zoro's end purpose was to defeat King, don't make him have a declaration saying he came to Onigashima to fight Kaido.
If Kid's end purpose was to help defeat Big Mom, don't make his entire arc mission to defeat Kaido... Lol
A future potential problem that I see is Zoro's acquisition of Conqueror's Haki not being important besides as a power up.
Again, it feels like everything is set up for him to have a leadership moment tying everything starting from what he said in Zou, but it still feels like Oda might simply not care.
If the ending of this arc is anything like Thriller Bark, which ended with Zoro's biggest character moment in the story, even until now. Then, many of the problems can be 'solved'. Maybe the Grim Reaper is the start of this moment, who knows? But if nothing happens (no pun intended), then it really seems like Oda came up with a bunch of ideas for Zoro, then gave up mid way.
The mods, admins, all zoro fans, they banned a lots sanji fan, that's why this is zoro fan website :)))))))))))
When people say zkk in other platforms, they are considered as brainless, illusion
in my country, no forums, fb groups talk about about zkk for year since zoro started vs king, but here people continue talk about it as an obvious chance
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When people say zkk in other platforms, they are considered as brainless, illusion
in my country, no forums, fb groups talk about about zkk for year since zoro started vs king, but here people continue talk about it as an obvious chance
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Because this is a forum community that refuses to solve One Piece and analyze it's values and rather engages in salt and controversity. A pathetic part of the One Piece community that drowns itself in spoiler discussions and powerscale discussions.
The true fans are hidden and not-so vocal because the aforementioned group of people does not tolerate the opinions of those hidden ones and smash their opinions immediately.
The true fans are hidden and not-so vocal because the aforementioned group of people does not tolerate the opinions of those hidden ones and smash their opinions immediately.
Because Wano isnβt good?
The arc is stretched out so long that it has been going on forever and the novelty of this land has long worn off.
The side characters were either utterly pointless like the scabbards or downright intolerable like Tama.
The plot was pretty basic: Unite a revolutionary army and take down the shogun and emperor. However, the army instantly became pointless and the actual fight has dragged on too long
The villains were okay but couldβve been better: Kaido is fine. Heβs basically the Kenpachi of One Piece and his fighting style was fun and unique.
King was great but got no build up
Queen was fun but you can tell Oda didnβt think about his fighting style much.
But orochi, who was supposed to be this mythical figure is an embarrassment.
And finally, it seems everyone and their mother was able to find mythical Zoan devil fruits, the rarest fruits of them all, here in Wano.
The arc is stretched out so long that it has been going on forever and the novelty of this land has long worn off.
The side characters were either utterly pointless like the scabbards or downright intolerable like Tama.
The plot was pretty basic: Unite a revolutionary army and take down the shogun and emperor. However, the army instantly became pointless and the actual fight has dragged on too long
The villains were okay but couldβve been better: Kaido is fine. Heβs basically the Kenpachi of One Piece and his fighting style was fun and unique.
King was great but got no build up
Queen was fun but you can tell Oda didnβt think about his fighting style much.
But orochi, who was supposed to be this mythical figure is an embarrassment.
And finally, it seems everyone and their mother was able to find mythical Zoan devil fruits, the rarest fruits of them all, here in Wano.