News Volume 102 - Discussion Thread (April 4th)

WTF?! LMFAO! 2 big onions?! I am so done lmfaooooo!!!!! Fucking Oda! I can never look at onions the same way again now! The 1st point really confused me, is he referrring to Maria scarring her? Or is he saying he scarred Robin after she beat him up?!?


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Bruh the first point confuses me so much, what the fuck did Oda mean by that :happinesspunch::crazwhat:
Also I guess giant Robin boobs are now onions since they make me cry (of pure joy :catpole:)
 
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Gorosei Informer

KOL literally predictive luffy turning into a Giant, using UFO again, applying rubber to living beings, and even pointed out the 'discrepancy' where Luffy is a zoan and a paramecia at the same time.
i am 90% sure the guy spoils the manga and still acts natural on camera LMAO
Woah woah woah woah! So you're telling me KOL not only has some good takes but also accurate predictions too?! WTF?! Today is a very surprising day hahaha! I expected the giant form and applying rubber to others for ages now, they are logical assumptions imo and UFO definitely had to return somehow too.

The Zoan and Paramecia issue is a great observation and point, it was in front of all our faces this whole time from the beginning and Chopper's different forms resonate with Luffy's Gears and how weird his DF is too. Chopper even makes himself gigantic with his "pseudo awakening" too! I think Oda is misleading us with Chopper's fruit too, it does have a specific model as I've not seen a single zoan without a specific model type as far as I remember and why would a "pure human fruit" turn him into a giant monster? Why would he have horn point and such too?

You're making KOL sound like a sort of genius who is obsfucating stupidity and plaiyng us all or he's like Kinemon with that whole "genius Kinemon moment" with his plan and Denjiro hahaha!

I'm extremely scared for this as this is the same guy who said Garp is merely Vergo level LMAOOOOO, unless that was deliberate bait to get us to understimate him and think him just a mere fool/jester like how he behaves with his OTT/exaggerated showman and clown behaviour?

Not actually trying to hate on or insult him too either ofc, I think he is very funny and entertaining, one of the longest and biggest (pause) pillars of the OP community, one of the "Yonkos" even imo which is fitting especially given how much he loves the Yonkos especially Kaido ofc!

I've seen such HILARIOUS memes of him made by his fanbase and I've even posting panels from the fanmade chapter of him by his fanbase, the ones where Lucci talked about "Down D Stairs" and Urouge being King and throwing Kaido off the Balloon Terminal hahahaha!

Man though, respect for KOL too though then in that regard, he must be feeling very proud and accomplished haha! KOL is iconic and I'm glad for him then, you've given me such a hilariously awesome new headcanon and thus mental image of him now. KOL could legit be pulling an Aizen, Light Kira or whatever on us for all we know!

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Gorosei Informer

In the most recent SBS.
Oda describes Sanji as (rough translation) “the weakest member of the Vinsmoke family. His power score is inly 635, compared to Judges 1642, Ichijis 853, Nijis 888, Yonji 1005, Reiju 1230.”
WTF?! Oda HAS to be trolling! Yonji the 3rd strongest?! Ichiji the 2nd weakest!? Reiju the 2nd strongest!? WHAT?! @BleakAsh KOL might have been right about Judge Top 5 too then?! WTF?! This can't be real?! Lmfao!

I'm lost for words right now. Surprisingly lol.

@Sanji D Goat @Doggo @Vinsmoke D. Zolo @YASER @Bango🍅 @Kagurashii @NotTommy @TheKnightOfTheSea @Hiragaro @U c 4 up da idly @Lord_Braggy @Straight From Laughtale @Tyki_Mikk

Can we go wage war on Oda now?!

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Bruh the first point confuses me so much, what the fuck did Oda mean by that :happinesspunch::crazwhat:
Also I guess giant Robin boobs are now onions since they make me cry (of pure joy :catpole:)
Hahaha I was gonna make that joke funnily enough! You definitely did better than I was going to though, great minds think alike!
 
WTF?! Oda HAS to be trolling! Yonji the 3rd strongest?! Ichiji the 2nd weakest!? Reiju the 2nd strongest!? WHAT?! @BleakAsh KOL might have been right about Judge Top 5 too then?! WTF?! This can't be real?! Lmfao!

I'm lost for words right now. Surprisingly lol.

@Sanji D Goat @Doggo @Vinsmoke D. Zolo @YASER @Bango🍅 @Kagurashii @NotTommy @TheKnightOfTheSea @Hiragaro @U c 4 up da idly @Lord_Braggy @Straight From Laughtale @Tyki_Mikk

Can we go wage war on Oda now?!

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Don't believe what that user says, the SBS does not show or mention anything like that.
 
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Gorosei Informer

Don't believe what that user says, the SBS does not show or mention anything like that.
Yeah I suspected they are trolling since it is April Fools too but since its Oda and his insane shenanigans especially lately, I let myself give it some leniency regardless.

Thank you anyway haha, I didn't see that get mentioned either so thank god that's the case then. I could see Oda downplaying Sanji like this but I thought and hope he has learned his lesson given how he's written Sanji this arc and made him look so much better, although some would argue he was great at least at WCI depending on their tastes and beliefs ofc.


:cheers:


(I just kinda feel like gathering all the Sanji fans I can and orchestrating some divine revenge trolling on Oda for all the trolling hes done to Sanji for all these years of suffering and such too, inculding Sanjis 2 years of Hell over the TS ofc hahaha)
 
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In the most recent SBS.
Oda describes Sanji as (rough translation) “the weakest member of the Vinsmoke family. His power score is inly 635, compared to Judges 1642, Ichijis 853, Nijis 888, Yonji 1005, Reiju 1230.”
Yonji the strongest sibling??
I'd have expected Ichiji tbh. I always saw Yonji as the weakest ..
 
So the only common point for everyone here : second strongest
No, the only common point for everyone here is that they are all the No.2 or one of the No.2s in the crew in terms of overall importance or authority.

According to the text provided by Etenboby, Oda literally wrote that they are just the No.2s that he picked out; Oda is not specifying why he picked out each one of them.

The person who was asking the question to Oda wasn't just asking whether or not Bepo was the No.2; The person made two questions, and the second one was about whether or not Bepo is the strongest out of them.
So first Oda answered the first question, clarifying that Bepo wasn't the only No.2, just like Zoro is not the only No. 2.
And then he proceeded to answer the second, which was about Bepo's strength itself, so Oda wasn't even talking about his strength as a justification for the choice; Those were two different matters.

This is how Oda could have written the text if he really wanted to confirm that Zoro is stronger:

Oda: talking about that color spread huh. Same goes for Zoro, not everyone on there holds the position of vice captain. They are just the No.2s that I picked out based on strength. Penguin and Shachi are more reliable in normal circumstances, but those two have seen Bepo's sulong transformation, so they acknowledge that "combat wise Bepo is superior!", just like combat wise Zoro is superior to Sanji.

But Oda didn't do that, which wouldn't have been so hard to do if he really meant to convey such message.


By the way, it's not even confirmed that Shiryuu is stronger than Jesus Burgess, especially considering how Jesus Burgess was chosen by Black Beard to be the captain of the first ship.
And if you want to argue that the difference of position is not enough reason to think that Burgess is stronger than Shiryuu, then you also have to accept the argument that Jozu may be stronger than Marco.
 
Woah woah woah woah! So you're telling me KOL not only has some good takes but also accurate predictions too?! WTF?! Today is a very surprising day hahaha! I expected the giant form and applying rubber to others for ages now, they are logical assumptions imo
Lmfao 😂😂

I'm more like leaning towards him actually spoiling the manga beforehand given how much he got correct this time around

Yea i think there is this stigma around KOL especially regarding his takes on Yonko and Admirals, and Zoro and Sanji... and people generalize that bias over everything he says.. even i personally demur with him especially when his takes ares stupendously stretchy lol but the is constructive when it comes down to it.. unlike other creates who though Luffy would be risen fruit user LOL if you watched the recent Mini Reverie



The Zoan and Paramecia issue is a great observation and point, it was in front of all our faces this whole time from the beginning and Chopper's different forms resonate with Luffy's Gears and how weird his DF is too. Chopper even makes himself gigantic with his "pseudo awakening" too! I think Oda is misleading us with Chopper's fruit too, it does have a specific model as I've not seen a single zoan without a specific model type as far as I remember and why would a "pure human fruit" turn him into a giant monster? Why would he have horn point and such too?
EXACTLY choppy's fruit's model wasn't introduced with the fruit.. so that begs a question and why is his fruit so versatile given a typical human doesn't even come close.


The Zoan-Paramecia point is actually a food for thought coz KOL also bring up a very valid point.. that a Zoan user has to actively and consciously activate their DF.. but Luffy's body is unconsciously rubber itself, the only assumption that makes any logical sense is that Luffy was initially primarily a paramecia before awakening.. and his awakening in the zoan form.. but thats also riddled (🦇) with holes.. coz it becomes counterintuitive .. Nika fruit is a zoan with inherent rubber abilities.. wouldn't that mean Luffy was a zoan all this this with paramecia abilities?..

This whole ambiguous discussion (ironically) only points towards that Luffy's DF is not like other Zoan's.... even Marco has to activate his DF consciously... even Sengoku like Kol said.
so yea this is something that must be touched upon for further elaboration.




You're making KOL sound like a sort of genius who is obsfucating stupidity and plaiyng us all or he's like Kinemon with that whole "genius Kinemon moment" with his plan and Denjiro hahaha!

I'm extremely scared for this as this is the same guy who said Garp is merely Vergo level LMAOOOOO, unless that was deliberate bait to get us to understimate him and think him just a mere fool/jester like how he behaves with his OTT/exaggerated showman and clown behaviour
LOOL, KOL is a rational thinker Albeit AT TIMES but generally an entertaining lad...and nah Vergo isn't even in his top 30 so that defo a bait
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WTF?! Oda HAS to be trolling! Yonji the 3rd strongest?! Ichiji the 2nd weakest!? Reiju the 2nd strongest!? WHAT?! @BleakAsh KOL might have been right about Judge Top 5 too then?! WTF?! This can't be real?! Lmfao!

I'm lost for words right now. Surprisingly lol.

@Sanji D Goat @Doggo @Vinsmoke D. Zolo @YASER @Bango🍅 @Kagurashii @NotTommy @TheKnightOfTheSea @Hiragaro @U c 4 up da idly @Lord_Braggy @Straight From Laughtale @Tyki_Mikk

Can we go wage war on Oda now?!

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Hahaha I was gonna make that joke funnily enough! You definitely did better than I was going to though, great minds think alike!
LMFAOOO WE NEED CONTEXT ODAA..

Sanji can't be weak the guy dented yonji with a flex whats he on about.. that a blatant contradiction fam
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In the most recent SBS.
Oda describes Sanji as (rough translation) “the weakest member of the Vinsmoke family. His power score is inly 635, compared to Judges 1642, Ichijis 853, Nijis 888, Yonji 1005, Reiju 1230.”
this is a Logical mess fam
 

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Lazy is the way
By the way, it's not even confirmed that Shiryuu is stronger than Jesus Burgess, especially considering how Jesus Burgess was chosen by Black Beard to be the captain of the first ship.
And if you want to argue that the difference of position is not enough reason to think that Burgess is stronger than Shiryuu, then you also have to accept the argument that Jozu may be stronger than Marco.
Yes Shiryu is portrayed higher than Burgess. Also the fact that Zoro and him will likely fight. and the fact that Oda put him in that cover.

About Marco and Jozu.

There isn't much debate. Marco was said to be WB former right hand



Marco led he WBP pirate against BB

Marco was the one Shanks asked to be in his crew etc etc etc

Marco > Jozu

No, the only common point for everyone here is that they are all the No.2 or one of the No.2s in the crew in terms of position of authority.

According to the text provided by Etenboby, Oda literally wrote that they are just the No.2s that he picked out; Oda is not specifying why he picked out each one of them.

The person who was asking the question to Oda wasn't just asking whether or not Bepo was the No.2; The person made two questions, and the second one was about whether or not Bepo is the strongest out of them.
Yeah but the first is direct consequence from the second

Penguin and Sachi are more reliable usually. But they all agree that Bepo is the strongest in Sulong. And magically Bepo ends up in the cover = it's strength related.

So first Oda answered the first question, clarifying that Bepo wasn't the only No.2, just like Zoro is not the only No. 2.
And then he proceeded to answer the second, which was about Bepo's strength itself, so Oda wasn't even talking about his strength as a justification for the choice; Those were two different matters.
No Oda said that all the N2 in that cover werent VC. Bepo like Zoro aren't VC. But they are still chosen by him. And for Bepo we know that strength was the important factor.

This is how Oda could have written the text if he really wanted to confirm that Zoro is stronger:

Oda: talking about that color spread huh. Same goes for Zoro, not everyone on there holds the position of vice captain. They are just the No.2s that I picked out based on strength. Penguin and Shachi are more reliable in normal circumstances, but those two have seen Bepo's sulong transformation, so they acknowledge that "combat wise Bepo is superior!", just like combat wise Zoro is superior to Sanji.

But Oda didn't do that, which wouldn't have been so hard to do if he really meant to convey such message.
Lets not begin here. There are 1000 ways Oda could have been clearer or Oda could have just said something else. But it's not Oda way

Oda said simple things :

- he picked up those number 2
- among those number 2 some are vice captain/right hand and some are not : like Bepo and Zoro
- Bepo was picked up because he was the strongest of the bunch

So the logical conclusion is all of those N2 are the strongest of their group except the captain
 
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