I was killed by Town. I was also the counter wagon to Odd, and in fact it was all of Mafia voting with me that prevented me from being lynched. This was a game that I subbed into that had basically no gameplay going on until I did so. Alabasta game was one of the more egregious examples of being handled in poor faith, not the contrary. It was horrendous.
[FNZ] Role Madness Toonami Mafia I: Fullmetal Alchemist
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I think it’s also, even if they don’t think you’re fake claiming, they also think: indies bad, hurt town. But like, chances of an indie being worse than scum are very low lol. So if you don’t think they’re faking you’re better off shooting into an actual mafia POE and shooting a townie than shooting someone you feel very sure isn’t mafia.
i dont remember it being like that. its been awhile. i remember wanting to work with u since u could kill mafia. and couple of townies did too
me and @Dr_Professor83 make a good team regardless of alignment always lmao
me and @Dr_Professor83 make a good team regardless of alignment always lmao
Yeah I couldn't disagree more to be honest. I mean I think Survivor as a wincon is garbage and always has been, I'll never use it as a host myself. Outside of that having indies co-operate with the town under the guide of mutual alliance makes sense for both parties and enables the Indie to actually play without having to be careful about getting spite shot by Mafia. You're in this mindset that claiming Indie is some free ticket out for the player to get a pressure free game - Ultra and to a lesser extent you should give the lie to that assertion this game alone.
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I´m sorry that you think so bad of me now, hope you read the long post I´ve made in this thread where I posted my role and the actions I took. I did use my abilities on the last day, I did not have a killshot that could kill homunculi however.
And at this point I didn´t feel confident enough to use my protection or blocking ability because besides you, knowing that you had to be Edward by the way, I had no clue anymore who could be what fraction. My block only would have worked on specific players, once again not including homunculi. So I decided not to use this abilities that day because I would have made things probably even worse if I accidentally ended up protecting a bad guy (which happened on day 1 as I protected Worst because you both mentioned me in your posts and at this point either one of you two could have been Edward to me) or blocked a townie. I also thought it might be more helpful if no one gets blocked that day because Scar´s group and mafia could have been fighting and harming each other too by using their abilities on each other.
And at this point I didn´t feel confident enough to use my protection or blocking ability because besides you, knowing that you had to be Edward by the way, I had no clue anymore who could be what fraction. My block only would have worked on specific players, once again not including homunculi. So I decided not to use this abilities that day because I would have made things probably even worse if I accidentally ended up protecting a bad guy (which happened on day 1 as I protected Worst because you both mentioned me in your posts and at this point either one of you two could have been Edward to me) or blocked a townie. I also thought it might be more helpful if no one gets blocked that day because Scar´s group and mafia could have been fighting and harming each other too by using their abilities on each other.
I think it defaults to laziness really. The townie that shoots tells themselves that they can claim to not have harmed town because it's just an indie they're risking. It's having your cake and eating it too, really. They want to have indies come forward and remove themselves from the PoE, but also want the indie to throw their wincon under the guise of helping town, and when it comes to helping the indie in return, then the town kill the indie off because well, they're not town. It's utter nonsense really. I've no idea where it came from too but it has been here for basically since WG started off so I suspect it came from the tail-end of the OJ era.
I mean, if you hang your had on like 3 of 12 players willing to work with said indie, I think my case is made lol.
I mean, if you hang your had on like 3 of 12 players willing to work with said indie, I think my case is made lol.
it technically is. i mean look at blue. was suspected since the start and claimed indie for a free ticket to coast
u just have to accept it for what it is. mafia can fake claim indies any time and the wincons r very easy to fake. there is no reason for town to trust indies anymore after these games. maybe if the indie was fully open with town yes, but alibaba wasnt. his actions were anti town and he never fully claimed his wincon. thats not good faith.
now if u wanna talk about a good faith indie, they are boring asfk most of the time. like u basically tell town what u can do and what ur goal is. u r basically revealing ur entire role. whats the point of playing then. thats boring.
survivors r the most boring roles BUT they can always be fixed by bounties or claim restrictions. but yea they r usually boring. glad i never rolled one.
winning without claiming indie requires good threadplay to stay alive from both town and mafia. thats how a neutral plays. this makes the indie win much more fun and unexpected.
protown indies can claim if they want. they r basically a townie with an easier or harder wincon depending on the indie. thats up to them. claiming is wack imo and just stops giving mafia incentive to kill them while the indie rains on mafia. put a bounty on it and thats better now. or claim restrict or weaken it of it claimed
u just have to accept it for what it is. mafia can fake claim indies any time and the wincons r very easy to fake. there is no reason for town to trust indies anymore after these games. maybe if the indie was fully open with town yes, but alibaba wasnt. his actions were anti town and he never fully claimed his wincon. thats not good faith.
now if u wanna talk about a good faith indie, they are boring asfk most of the time. like u basically tell town what u can do and what ur goal is. u r basically revealing ur entire role. whats the point of playing then. thats boring.
survivors r the most boring roles BUT they can always be fixed by bounties or claim restrictions. but yea they r usually boring. glad i never rolled one.
winning without claiming indie requires good threadplay to stay alive from both town and mafia. thats how a neutral plays. this makes the indie win much more fun and unexpected.
protown indies can claim if they want. they r basically a townie with an easier or harder wincon depending on the indie. thats up to them. claiming is wack imo and just stops giving mafia incentive to kill them while the indie rains on mafia. put a bounty on it and thats better now. or claim restrict or weaken it of it claimed
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