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Joygirl1

@Joygirl give me your thoughts on this Mitch stuff.
I completely missed that maf chat stuff out and would have to read Nana´s posts about this, otherwise I can´t say anything about Mitch as he didn´t give us much to work with so far.
Mitch or BornInAbyss could be maf, would be really lame but I can´t rule this out.

From the one sentence I read I noticed a spelling error, whoever wrote it wrote "czn" instead of "can", we could look for the grammar or for specific words and then compare the writing style to a user it could fit to? Ask ourselves, who would write a sentence like this? Who would ask the host or his maf colleagues a question like this? Would be my suggestion.
 
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Nana´s last post was this one by the way.

Is it really that easy to convince u to jump on a wagon?
This question was directed to Worst who indeed jumped the Yo wagon really easy.
Also I remember Worst saying that he has a reviving ability too, but how likely is it that there are two townies with reviving abilities? The more I think about it, the more I get the feeling that I should add Worst to my scum list.
 
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Dragomir

I completely missed that maf chat stuff out and would have to read Nana´s posts about this, otherwise I can´t say anything about Mitch as he didn´t give us much to work with so far.
Mitch or BornInAbyss could be maf, would be really lame but I can´t rule this out.

From the one sentence I read I noticed a spelling error, whoever wrote it wrote "czn" instead of "can", we could look for the grammar or for specific words and then compare the writing style to a user it could fit to? Ask ourselves, who would write a sentence like this? Who would ask the host or his maf colleagues a question like this? Would be my suggestion.
That's a spelling error anyone can make. I don't think looking into would be a good use of the time.

But if you wanna look into the writing styles and who would ask Blue those questions, that's fine. We're already doing that with looking into who would talk about Mango being sus and we've come up with Mitch and Bon so far.
 

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Actually, it still kinda counts since Bon was here on D1 and thus could have mentioned her suspicions on Mango N1.
Alright. I also found these two posts. Fuji even wanted to CFD Mango, but thank God he switched to Zolo instead. I remember him asking people about their reads on him.
no brainer. troll lord. 101% scum. thank you
We could always CFD Ekko or Mango as far as Im concerned.
 
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Dragomir

Nana´s last post was this one by the way.



This question was directed to Worst who indeed jumped the Yo wagon really easy.
Also I remember Worst saying that he has a reviving ability too, but how likely is it that there are two townies with reviving abilities? The more I think about it, the more I get the feeling that I should add Worst to my scum list.
I agree. I'll make an iso on Worst after I wake up but good point.
 
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Joygirl1

That's a spelling error anyone can make. I don't think looking into would be a good use of the time.
Not exactly, in some countries the letters Y and Z are switched on the keyboards.
Here in middle europe the Z is in the upper line between the T and the U, if you want to type an A it is really hard to mistype it like this because A and Z are very far away from each other. The Y on the other hand is directly below the letter A which would make a mistype like this way easier. So I would say it is more likely that the user who wrote the comment has to come from a country where the Z is actually under the A instead of the Y.
 
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Not exactly, in some countries the letters Y and Z are switched on the keyboards.
Here in middle europe the Z is in the upper line between the T and the U, if you want to type an A it is really hard to mistype it like this because A and Z are very far away from each other. The Y on the other hand is directly below the letter A which would make a mistype like this way easier. So I would say it is more likely that the user who wrote the comment has to come from a country where the Z is actually under the A instead of the Y.
Oh, I didn't know that. I live in the U.S. and my keyboard has the Z under the A.
 
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Dragomir

listen it's just a matter of facts u should be a priority target for Mafia, if i was maf i'd shoot you the moment u subbed in

vote lynch Dragomir
That's flattering, Enny, but there were better targets for mafia to shoot last night than me. So, do you have an actual result on me or no?
 

Kagu Nyan

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Oh yea, that was a leak way before nana got killed.
Well last night phase it said that red tried to kill someone but failed. What was that about? Maybe they did tried to kill Nana but got blocked?
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...a-game-date-a-live.24470/page-78#post-2719605
It does say that the red mafia had a failed kill on night 1 but then again Nana's role doesn't have anything to save her from the kill.

They might have been blocked/re-directed or Nana got protected. I'm just thinking how mafia can have the foresight to recognize Nana as a threat before the chat leaks happened. Gotta check her activity on day 1.
 
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listen it's just a matter of facts u should be a priority target for Mafia, if i was maf i'd shoot you the moment u subbed in

vote lynch Dragomir
For what reason?
Also pretty convenient that you show up exactly right after I quoted Nana´s post and mentioned to find you sus.
 
There was no night before that.
We started from Day 1 where Fuji CFD'd Zolo.
Then there was Night 1 > when Nana found the chats.
Then Day 2 where we voted for Yo Tan.
Then Night 2 > where Nana got killed.
Now we are at Day 3.
I could mess up numbers, but that's my point.

Zolo gets cfd, mafia talks about moving Mitch's vote (who hasn't voted) on Pero (2nd wagon). After that Nana revealed leaks. It doesn't say she would leak info from D2/N1, right? So they may as well be from D1.

If they had vote steal DP ability and were able to move town Mitch vote D1 to Pero to save Zolo (or at least believed so), then they should be able to move Fuji's vote for example. Person who voted Zolo. That would give Pero +1 vote and -1 for Zolo. Instead they're talking about moving someone who hasn't voted on Pero. Meaning +1 to Pero and no change for Zolo. If that's manipulation of towns vote, why inactive Mitch?

Now if Mitch is their teammate and their logic was "come on, if he was there, he'd vote pero to save Zolo, let's use his vote power", that makes more sense to me personally.


We have different reasons for suspecting Mitch here. Give mine a read and tell me what you think.
You mean him going after Mango and just being "there"? Well, that certainly doesn't help, darling
 
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Forget what I wrote about the keyboard settings by the way, Nana wrote in one of her posts that she rephrased the chat leaks, so all my efforts to find out something about the person who wrote that sentence were for nothing, as the one who was making the typo was simply Nana herself :(

Here is what she wrote again:

Maf1
"X kill nana"
"X we should invest or rb mango he seems sus might be third"
"redirect doesn't matter who its used on, how about juliet to cal?"

Maf2

"We also czn use mitch’s vote even though he didnt vote? If so also move that to pero"

More info than I thought:
- there was definitely a redirection involved at maf1
- Nana suspected Ekko hard for having tmi as she believed Ekko could tell which of those two has to be red maf and which has to be purple maf
- as a townie or an indie you should indeed not be able to tell from this which one is red maf and which one is purple
- "might be third" and Gambit talking about a "thirdie" seems to match up, seeing this I understand now why Gambit looks sus to others
- Juliet and Cal can´t be members of Maf1, as Maf1 planned to do some redirection ability to them
- Mitch and Pero can´t be members of Maf2, in my opinion Mitch was used to move a vote on Pero, it seems Maf2 wanted to get Pero lynched
- There is no Maf3, so AST probably is an indie / third party faction?

From what I can see from that chat leaks, I think that Gambit could be Maf1
And Charlie could be Maf2, as we know Rottkins was town, so the discussion about moving a vote to Pero would make sense if that was at an early time of the day when it looked like that it would be a decision between Charlie or Pero and Charlie probably needed to be saved.

After all my suspect list looks like this now:
- Gambit
- Worst
- Charlie
- Kagurashii
- Ekko
- Pot Goblin (as Kagurashii was so eager to find out why Pot Goblin looked more sus to me than T-Pein, those two probably working together?)

Absolutely no clue on:
- Meeyori
- Bonnibel (her last posts look a bit better and the chances of her investigation really being manipulated increased by UwU´s flip)
- Pero
- Dragomir
- Arondight
- BornInAbyss

Fuji is a self-confessed indie I would not want to lynch as he could help town.

Looking townie at this point to me:
- Juliet
- Cal
- Rej (despite not being Kurumi I tend to trust him because we both know the lore and I can tell that he´s trying to be helpful for town)
- Lord Melkor
- Mitch (to me it looks he´s been set up for today´s lynch by people that look more sus to me, like Kagurashii and Charlie)

Most of the townlocks are based on assumptions and feelings as I have no investigation abilities however and it doesn´t help that T-Pein, Nana and Mango all have died either as those were the only one that were either confirmed town or I had a seriously good feeling about in Mango´s case :/
 
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