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We see the same with Kaidou "defeating" Luffy like 3 or 4 times already this arc. Did Kaido defeat Luffy if Luffy just keeps bouncing back? Yes. Even the narrator announces Kaido's victory literally a chapter before Nika Awakening kicks in. So i don't see why it can't be applied with Kaido's defeat at the hand of Luffy and then bounces back with awakening.
I think it would be more like this:
- Luffy defeats Kaido in a 1v1 in KO's him, but he becomes drained and completely immobile.
- Onigashima starts to crumble while still falling, and everyone tries desperately to evacuate. The SHs can't seem to get to Luffy in all the chaos, and they have to get out first (kind of like what happened in Enies Lobby)
- A giant piece of debris/rock hits unconscious Kaido in the head after a while has passed since he was KO'd, and he groggily wakes up
- He realizes that he has lost (that he was not JoyBoy, and that he never got his proper 1v1 victory over a strong opponent like he always wanted), and he becomes bitter
- He either tries to kill Luffy while Luffy can't move, or he tries to set flame to the Flower Capital as his last act
- Dragon Momo catches Zoro on his back to prevent him from falling off the island (Zoro has now been revived, maybe with a black blade or with his left eye open), and Zoro senses that Luffy/the Flower Capital is in danger
- Momo takes him up to Kaido and Zoro kills him in order to save Luffy or the FC (or both)
Yea from my perspective, Luffy's victory over Kaidou should be the fulfillment of his promise to surpass Kaidou, as the narrative finality and conclusion to it. I can't find that kind of narrative if Kaidou bounce back even stronger while Luffy is can't even fight anymore after defeating him once. Don't wanna argue too much with enjoyers like you tho, just my views
Tbh, I don't think Kaido will bounce back in a stronger form. If he shows awakening, it will be in the fight with Luffy. I just think he will regain his consciousness some time after being KO'd by Luffy. I think he'll be in a weakened state but still have something left in the tank to pose a threat to either Luffy himself or the people of Wano (mostly because Luffy will be incapacitated). So that it's not like Zoro is getting to fight a stronger version of Kaido than Luffy fought, but he's also not just cheapshotting an immobile Kaido for the heck of it
Captain Morgan 
also this is WSC and battle for PK stuff do we really wanna compare him to Morgan 
thats why i disagree about "kaidou awakening after defeated by luffy while luffy faints" but maybe what @Franosuke said can also be alternative
