World War 3

None of them are telling the truth; both sides have their own agendas to project. Ukraine and the West are definitely exaggerating the numbers while Russia is trying equally hard to extremely lowball their losses to save face. It's mind-boggling how none of them have any intention of stopping this madness.
Ukraine still fights for their territory, it would be a shame to stop now.
 

Gol D. Roger

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Ukraine still fights for their territory, it would be a shame to stop now.
I think finding a compromise and ending the war is better than getting wiped out altogether. I am not sure if it's just me, but the world leaders are acting as if they don't want this war to end. Both sides are collaborating pretty well to fuck Ukraine up. The so-called emergency aid is just them dragging Ukraine into an endless debt trap. Ukraine is beyond saving.
 
I think finding a compromise and ending the war is better than getting wiped out altogether. I am not sure if it's just me, but the world leaders are acting as if they don't want this war to end. Both sides are collaborating pretty well to fuck Ukraine up. The so-called emergency aid is just them dragging Ukraine into an endless debt trap. Ukraine is beyond saving.
The one who fucks ukraine up are the russian side, dont put nato in the same position as russia, its not ok.
And yeah nato wants to help Ukraine and they are sending their support, I see no problem here, Ukraine is not beyond saving, this is just your oppinion and nothing more.
People dont want to give up their land to orks, its just naturally that they fight.
 

Rej

Holy Simp
Based on gamble theories it is the USA having the most profit out of this war. That is why they can afford to send most of the aid.

The EU are just those that carry the costs on the NATO side. And russia is going net 0 if they gain territory. Meanwhile we are about to purchase more gas from the USA and the USA is the big winner in this conflict.

That might also be the main reason why China wants this war to end. Because the one who carries the net profit globally are the Yankees tbh.

So why end the war if they can stretch it for profits. I mean Ukraine is profitting from solidarity while USA profits in the global money competition. Meanwhile the cold war gets refueled and EU invests more into arms and the big loser is China.
 
Based on gamble theories it is the USA having the most profit out of this war. That is why they can afford to send most of the aid.

The EU are just those that carry the costs on the NATO side. And russia is going net 0 if they gain territory. Meanwhile we are about to purchase more gas from the USA and the USA is the big winner in this conflict.

That might also be the main reason why China wants this war to end. Because the one who carries the net profit globally are the Yankees tbh.

So why end the war if they can stretch it for profits. I mean Ukraine is profitting from solidarity while USA profits in the global money competition. Meanwhile the cold war gets refueled and EU invests more into arms and the big loser is China.
Russia is the one who gains the most out of this war.
 

Gol D. Roger

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The one who fucks ukraine up are the russian side, dont put nato in the same position as russia, its not ok.
And yeah nato wants to help Ukraine and they are sending their support, I see no problem here, Ukraine is not beyond saving, this is just your oppinion and nothing more.
People dont want to give up their land to orks, its just naturally that they fight.
Being brave and fighting for what is yours is the right thing to do, but it's not always the most optimal thing to do. I am not saying they should give up their land. I am saying that all of them—the West, Russia, and Ukraine—should actually be working towards finding an amicable solution instead of dragging the war and making things worse. There is no point in fighting when all you're gonna be left with is "ashes".

Russian should be held responsible for what's happening but that doesn't mean NATO has no role in what's happening to Ukraine. I don't really care if you think it's okay or not. But NATO played a major in the whole thing. They're in it together: Both Russia and the US. If you wanna say Russia is the main culprit, then that's something everyone agrees with.

So why end the war if they can stretch it for profits. I mean Ukraine is profitting from solidarity while USA profits in the global money competition. Meanwhile the cold war gets refueled and EU invests more into arms and the big loser is China.
Yup, we need not look further than the US' biggest weapon makers' stock values after the Ukraine war to know who's the actual winner in this war.

Not to mention, the so-called emergency aid that Ukraine's been receiving needs to be paid back with interest. Big loan sharks are capitalizing on this war just as much as the weapon makers.
 
Being brave and fighting for what is yours is the right thing to do, but it's not always the most optimal thing to do. I am not saying they should give up their land. I am saying that all of them—the West, Russia, and Ukraine—should actually be working towards finding an amicable solution instead of dragging the war and making things worse. There is no point in fighting when all you're gonna be left with is "ashes".

Russian should be held responsible for what's happening but that doesn't mean NATO has no role in what's happening to Ukraine. I don't really care if you think it's okay or not. But NATO played a major in the whole thing. They're in it together: Both Russia and the US. If you wanna say Russia is the main culprit, then that's something everyone agrees with.
NATO, China, Belarus, etc, have a role in what is happening in Ukraine, like 10% role, the rest is just russia doing a massacre.
`` Russia, and Ukraine—should actually be working towards finding an amicable solution instead of dragging the war and making things worse.``Oh dont you worry, they are working to find a solution, ukraine wants their country free of terrorists(russians), while russia wants to conquer Ukraine, the solution is there, and its called ``war``.
 

Gol D. Roger

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NATO, China, Belarus, etc, have a role in what is happening in Ukraine, like 10% role, the rest is just russia doing a massacre.
`` Russia, and Ukraine—should actually be working towards finding an amicable solution instead of dragging the war and making things worse.``Oh dont you worry, they are working to find a solution, ukraine wants their country free of terrorists(russians), while russia wants to conquer Ukraine, the solution is there, and its called ``war``.
The objective should be ending the war, not dragging the war.
 

Gol D. Roger

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Go talk to Putin tell him to retreat his army and the war will end, its just as simple.
You're being emotional. That's not how you're supposed to make a point. If I were in a position to talk to Putin, I would. If I am in any position to do something which would mean saving a life, then I would do everything in my power to save it. The problem I have here that that the people who're in a position to do something to stop the war—that includes Putin, Zelensky, Biden, Modi, Jinping, and everyone else—aren't really doing anything to stop it. Instead, they're just fueling the war.
 
You're being emotional. That's not how you're supposed to make a point. If I were in a position to talk to Putin, I would. If I am in any position to do something which would mean saving a life, then I would do everything in my power to save it. The problem I have here that that the people who're in a position to do something to stop the war—that includes Putin, Zelensky, Biden, Modi, Jinping, and everyone else—aren't really doing anything to stop it. Instead, they're just fueling the war.
Man its true that they are fueling this conflict(in a war something like this is to be expected), but the thing is, this conflict is kinda fresh, it started only some months ago, the progression in negociations are slow, a war cant start and end in an instant, also according to Russia this is not even a ``war`` it a peacefully mission to kill all the nazis from Ukraine, nazi=people who are not ready to give their territory to Russia.
So yeah dont expect this to end soon, Ukraine is still going strong, and they are fueled rly good by the west states, Russia is getting help also. This will last more, Putin and his oligarch masters want this war to go on, they rly want Ukraine to be in their control.
The flow of things is not even slow, dunno why we would expect this to end soon.
 
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I think finding a compromise and ending the war is better than getting wiped out altogether. I am not sure if it's just me, but the world leaders are acting as if they don't want this war to end. Both sides are collaborating pretty well to fuck Ukraine up. The so-called emergency aid is just them dragging Ukraine into an endless debt trap. Ukraine is beyond saving.
Problem is that if Putin will come to peaceful agreement, he will be dead next day and another crazy leader willl continue this war. You should google what propaganda did to russians, when they use even child from school for war parad. They calling war, they calling for blood...lvl of propaganda there is simmilar to Nazi Germany in 1941, when society desire a war. This is big problem for whole world, case they believe that Russia will not only defeat Ukraine, but other countries as well. And it is true, case Ukraine has stronger army than any country in Europe having more then 250.000 regular army and 1.000.000 as reservist. Plus our army have war with russia from 2014, so we are most experienced and most prepared. More to that russians don't mind in using nuclear bomb, so they ready to any scenario. So I got fear that this war ending,woldn't be that easy, as many people believe. Maybe big loses could make Russians give up.
 
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Also I have to add that if Russia will surrender, or will accept any agreement with Ukranian goverment this will be end for Russian Federation. They knew this, so this is why this war could turn into anything.
 

Finalbeta

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Russia is embarrassment. They did a clear strategical and tactical mistake. And now they threaten with nukes., Truly desperate



Putin is expecting something big before May 9, the anniversary of Nazi Surrender to Soviet

Clashes might intensify drastically with no limits
It seems like the conflict is most likely far from over to this day :josad:
 
Ah yes, Moldova got involved today.
Bombings happened in Transnistria. World War 3, it's happening.
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I mean in Saturday Russians claimed that they want to conquer South of Ukraine to save people in Transnistria from nazi in Moldova, who hurt russians.

Well, big plans, big talk...but they need first defeat us, which is not going to happen. Even Defenders in Mariupol are still fighing! No one is going to give up. Mariupol stand for 63 days, this is longer than even capital Grosniy in Chechnya that was burn and conquered by Russia for one month.
 
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