Speculations Is Wano Really Zoro’s Arc? The Difference Between a Broken Promise and an Unfulfilled Expectation.

[HA001]

What people are ignoring is opening the borders is the end to kozuki odens story.
Wano has two tyrants
Oden has 2 swords he passed down.

Oda chose to give enma the kaido hype despite both swords being used

And the ame no habikiri is the snake slayer sword the sword literally famed in japan for slaying the yamata no orochi

Oda has built this story on smbolism and im damn sure odens 2 swords will be used to free wano from their respective tyrant.

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

It's not "Kidd's Revenge", it's what Oda said and portrayed multiple times. Oda never portrayed Rebecca as somebody who will do something against Doflamingo.

She won a round of dressrosa colosseuem tournament in order for her to win the fire fruit in order to beat Doflamingo. That's what her original motivation was remember.

 

[HA001]

But thank you for completely ler your argument go and start another one. Good for you

Same argument bud.
You said hes not like rebecca cause she cant hurt doffy
Kidd cant hurt kaido either so you were wrong.

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

It's not "Kidd's Revenge", it's what Oda said and portrayed multiple times. Oda never portrayed Rebecca as somebody who will do something against Doflamingo.

She won a round of dressrosa colosseuem tournament in order for her to win the fire fruit in order to beat Doflamingo. That's what her original motivation was remember.

 

[Eustass]

Same argument bud.
You said hes not like rebecca cause she cant hurt doffy
Kidd cant hurt kaido either so you were wrong.

And thats totally a baseless claim. Kidd was portrayed close to Luffy since he got introduced.

Rebecca was portrayed as a crying kid who couldnt even defeat Diamante.

 

[ShadyOjiro]

Oda thought Kidd will be the onlh important one when making Supernova...never thought law will become one too.

So since luffy never viewed Kidd below him as Teach did with luffy
So your argument is flawed .

Roger didnt have allies yet survived and had Yonko level CoC,
he teamed up with Garp at last minute at God valley
But go on and downplay Kidd for not having allies or not trusting them.

Once again, your arguments aren't working

Zoro will remain behind Law Kidd luffy as he was in PH/DR, his portrayal and feats will be below the top 3 SN

Show me luffy beating the main opponent with Strawhat help? None

Oda said that ok.

That doesn't mean he will move the plot as the SHs .

You gotta be smoking something to suggest last minute addition character are more important than the main cast.

There's no argument ,Luffy simply doesn't cares about Kid lol

Heck Luffy do think of Coby as rival unlike kid.

Roger didn't have allies?
The dude recruited 4 CoC users under his leadership

That's a major feat when it comes to being a CoC user that even Luffy doesn't have .We don't even need to mention kid who is betrayed the first time he tries to ally someone.

My arguments are solid.

From the SNs group Luffy and Zoro are the most important ones nothing new.
Are you reading the story of the Pirate King properly?
Or the story that includes the tale of the WSS whose name will reach the skies?

Wait the story is about Kid ...



Show you Luffy beating the main opponent with SHs help?
Well dummy.... remember Morgan who actually was defeated by Zoro not Luffy.

 

[HA001]

And thats totally a baseless claim. Kidd was portrayed close to Luffy since he got introduced.

Rebecca was portrayed as a crying kid who couldnt even defeat Diamante.

Bruh stop wasting my time with your shit.
I already asked how is he gonna hurt kaido?
He has nothing to do so. Wow he lifted rocks with a luffy that was 1 hit ko by kaido but guess what luffy learned acoa with hyou.
Whilst kidd was bobbing for apples with killer.

 

[CbShadow]

It's not his arc, fanboys wanted Wano to focus on Zoro, they wanted Oda to state Wano is Zoro arc.



Let's see, it has been 66 chapters and yet:
who did Zoro impress? The top 4 retainers arent impressed by him yet.
Did he round up samurai before or during luffy presence? Nope
Did he get back his sword as he wanted? Nope but rather got gifted Enma.
Is Kaido or BM even worried/thinking about him? Nah
Is his plot linked to Orochi? Yes
Will he participate vs Kaido/BM? Ah you mean like brook doing a small cut on Prometheus ? Or like Sanji with luffy locking BM? Maybe lol

Zoro will beat Orochi for Hiyori & Yasu sake.

The era is not over but you're already telling us exactly everything that will and won't ever happen.
Remember, when we last saw the retainers they were on the coast ready to sell and noticed all the ships were gone. They didn't know the night before Orochi had his alliance destroy the bridges and ships. They set out to sail and all of a sudden the straw hats and other Pirates shows up to rescue them with their ships back. That means there's a lot that happened between the time the bridges were destroyed and now which Oda needs to go back and cover. This is nothing new.

You still don't get it. There is a reason why Oda had Zoro rescue Hiyori. There is a reason Zoro meet up and travelled with Yasuie who did nothing but praise his strength and skills. Even got his village talking about Zoro who specifically mention the fact he carries three swords.

Why are you comparing PH and DR to Wano which are very different era. PH and DR are connected and focus a lot on Law, his back store, and getting revenge against Doffy and beat him. We didn't get his backstory until late era. Law played a major role in those era.

All Law has done most of the time in Wano is yell at the straw hats for making too much noise and drawing too much attention. Zoro have you seen more time and focus in Wano except for Luffy.

 

[Sword God Ryuma]

Lemme remind you Capone and crew did as much as strawhats
Capone himself had similar feats vs Oven as Sanji did.
Chiffon was with Sanji to make the cake
Big Father tanked more than Queen vs sane BM.

just coz Morgans Morgans Capone, doesnt mean Capone and crew didnt contribute much in baking the ake or Tea Party.

Kidd :
CoC
Supernova underling
Main Villain of WG, (the supernova Oda always had as Most important.)
Had fleets which got destroyed by Kaido fall and had a base too.
Survivor Yonko & army with no allies

He and luffy have been talking about who takes Kaido down.

The Main big boss is Kaido,
Beating Orochi wont do a thing as long as Kaido is standing

show me luffy thinking less of Kidd as Teach did with luffy? You have none.

Wano : Supernova trio alliance vs Rocks
Kidd and Luffy with law will take down Kaido (Navy or BM will weaken kaido)
WCI : Supernovas (Capone & Luffy) + Germa alliance surviving BMP. Luffy surpassing Kata
DR & PH : Supernova Duo (Law & Luffy) alliance vs Doffy family, luffy taking down Doffy (law weakened doffy, took down Vergo & Trebol)

Zoro was secondary behind Law and Luffy in PH DR and he is behind SN trio at Wano
, He didn't fight or beat Vergo/Ceasar/doffy who were Law/Luffy opponents, Neither will He beat or do a thing vs Kaido.
Sanji/Jinbei didnt help Luffy vs Kata finale , zoro didnt help luffy taking down Doffy.

where did Luffy ever won with strawhats help vs Main Opponent/finale ? Can't remember.
(The only times was Vs Cracker/Oars who weren't luffy Finale/main fight of the arc.)

How is he below Kidd and Law when he has more panel time than either of them. Luffy and Zoro has the most panel time in Wano.

 

[Sword God Ryuma]

Muh panel time!

Yes its a fact. Luffy and Zoro has the most panel time. Just like WCI Sanji and Luffy had the most.

 

[Gran D. Master]

Yes its a fact. Luffy and Zoro has the most panel time. Just like WCI Sanji and Luffy had the most.

Cool

 

[ShadyOjiro]

How is he below Kidd and Law when he has more panel time than either of them. Luffy and Zoro has the most panel time in Wano.

In Ndules mind ...

Oda decided to erase the building with Zoro in these 950+ chapters that promises him to be a legend to replace it with Kidd whose importance in the story can be even shadowed by Coby.

 

[Albino 👑]

Idk but i think yall are underestimating the potential of the supernova especially law and kid story wise

I do believe that unlike them and most the characters this arc zoros gonna be going his own way having a plot more wano centered (I lowkey think the same might be possible for sanji to a smaller extent tbh). That will likely get secondary highlight compared to luffys story (that law and kid will be apart of)

Also out of all the characters in wano i think kid/killer, zoro, and kaido have the highest chances of getting flashbacks this arc

 

[Sword God Ryuma]

In Ndules mind ...

Oda decided to erase the building with Zoro in these 950+ chapters that promises him to be a legend to replace it with Kidd whose importance in the story can be even shadowed by Coby.

Lol Oda dedicated panels of Zoro going with Yasu, running around with Yasu etc... Lol Kidd is barley in this arc.

 

[Esc]

Holy shit Kid fanboys are delusional. Oda could have focused on him but instead even Capone got more spotlight in the new world. He's likely going to have some good moments during the Wano battle but let's not overblow his importance lmao

 

[Cyrus the Cactus]

This poll is weird. "Has Oda ever promised Wano to be Zoro's arc?". Pretty sure Oda hasn't promised an arc for anyone except Sanji. We knew their arcs were their arcs by focus and such. Just like how Zoro's gotten the most focus after Luffy in Wano.

 

[Jo_Ndule]

Oda said that ok.

That doesn't mean he will move the plot as the SHs .

You gotta be smoking something to suggest last minute addition character are more important than the main cast.

There's no argument ,Luffy simply doesn't cares about Kid lol

Heck Luffy do think of Coby as rival unlike kid.

Roger didn't have allies?
The dude recruited 4 CoC users under his leadership

That's a major feat when it comes to being a CoC user that even Luffy doesn't have .We don't even need to mention kid who is betrayed the first time he tries to ally someone.

My arguments are solid.

From the SNs group Luffy and Zoro are the most important ones nothing new.
Are you reading the story of the Pirate King properly?
Or the story that includes the tale of the WSS whose name will reach the skies?

Wait the story is about Kid ...



Show you Luffy beating the main opponent with SHs help?
Well dummy.... remember Morgan who actually was defeated by Zoro not Luffy.

Lol since you cant debunk Roger not having allies.
You saying he had 3 CoC users under him..okay
Xebec had 3 and possibly Shiki too had CoC.

You keep switching arguments coz it's flawed everytime.

You are talking about PK and WSS
We are talking about Wano lol everyone knows Luffy will be PK.

Facts :
-Zoro has no direct build up vs Kaido
-He wont help Luffy vs Kaido as no strawhat has ever helped Luffy take down the main opponent in the story! Only Law did so at DR, Law and Kidd will do the same in Wano vs Kaido.
- He will participate vs Orochi

-Zoro will never be above Kidd Teach Sabo, possibly also never ever above Law Coby.
Just like Rayleigh was never above Rocks pirates + Marine duo

Bri6an actual argument, dont switch left and right

The era is not over but you're already telling us exactly everything that will and won't ever happen.
Remember, when we last saw the retainers they were on the coast ready to sell and noticed all the ships were gone. They didn't know the night before Orochi had his alliance destroy the bridges and ships. They set out to sail and all of a sudden the straw hats and other Pirates shows up to rescue them with their ships back. That means there's a lot that happened between the time the bridges were destroyed and now which Oda needs to go back and cover. This is nothing new.

You still don't get it. There is a reason why Oda had Zoro rescue Hiyori. There is a reason Zoro meet up and travelled with Yasuie who did nothing but praise his strength and skills. Even got his village talking about Zoro who specifically mention the fact he carries three swords.

Why are you comparing PH and DR to Wano which are very different era. PH and DR are connected and focus a lot on Law, his back store, and getting revenge against Doffy and beat him. We didn't get his backstory until late era. Law played a major role in those era.

All Law has done most of the time in Wano is yell at the straw hats for making too much noise and drawing too much attention. Zoro have you seen more time and focus in Wano except for Luffy.

Zoro meeting Yasu Hiyori is for him to battle Orochi and defeat him for hiyori and Yasu sake.
Panel time, panel time.

Zoro is pissed at Orochi.
Law Kidd Luffy eyes are set on Kaido not Orochi.

Clear difference, the top 3 have their eyes set on Kaido and Kaido has his eyes on them too.

66 chapters, no hint of Zoro wanting Kaido head.
But Kidd and luffy Yes!

 

[HA001]

This poll is weird. "Has Oda ever promised Wano to be Zoro's arc?". Pretty sure Oda hasn't promised an arc for anyone except Sanji. We knew their arcs were their arcs by focus and such. Just like how Zoro's gotten the most focus after Luffy in Wano.

Exactly and sanji had his moment with his role on the ship as cook vs meme.

Only fitting zoro will do the same vs kaido with his role on the ship as fighter.

 

[ShadyOjiro]

Idk but i think yall are underestimating the potential of the supernova especially law and kid story wise

I do believe that unlike them and most the characters this arc zoros gonna be going his own way having a plot more wano centered (I lowkey think the same might be possible for sanji to a smaller extent tbh). That will likely get secondary highlight compared to luffys story (that law and kid will be apart of)

Also out of all the characters in wano i think kid/killer, zoro, and kaido have the highest chances of getting flashbacks this arc

I think if anything ppl are going overboard with it.

When we have a main player as BB on the horizon .

Like unless you truly believe Kid or Law will be effectively competing with BB they are not meant to be key in the story.

At the end the author himself said that without SHs no PK(main point of the story if one recalls) so sooner of later side chars will be heavily sidelined.

 

[Albino 👑]

Even sanji had more than law and kid on wano
Yet at the same time its obviously not gonna stay that way. Tho again sanji might have his own important plot too.

Kid has been hyped in and out of story single we met this dude at shabaody
Same with law and hes been around since punk hazard and started the alliance against kaido to begin with along with having a d

Like its fair to be annoyed that side characters are taking the attention away from the strawhats but the supernova are here to stay especially those 2