Future Events More fuel for ZKK

[Blazing Lion]

I know this is one of the most controversial topics out there but I recently came across a reddit post/theory (not linking that post because the person ends it in saying that Wano will have 5 acts and in act 5 it will be Luffy vs Sengoku and Zoro vs Kaido) and like most theories where the current story is related in some way or loosely based on a Japanese folktale etc. this one really caught my eye. If there are some Japanese here or someone more knowledgeable on this subject please enlighten us. The link is here https://yokai.com/ootakemaru/

It is the story of Otakemaru who is an oni and to defeat him the samurai requires three sacred swords, two of these are provided to him by a goddess (whom he later marries). He kills him once (chops his head off) but the oni comes back after some time and he has to kill him again (again chops his head off) and then the head is locked away somewhere.

It is a very bad summary (mine) and the actual story maybe even bigger than what I read but I just thought that will all the threads that people have made about this theory I have so far not come across any reference to this legend/folktale.

 

[Orojackson Refugee]

antizorobros......once again we lost to japanese folktale.....

 

[Fn Lucci]

While you may argue that it's not proof of ZKK, it's obvious that Oda takes inspiration from this story:

- Otakemaru is considered a god and a demon. Kaido is considered an oni and a dragon.

- a great yokai alongside Shuten Doji, an obvious inspiration for the name of Ashura Doji/Shutenmaru

- the emperor's horseman army is 30,000. The beast pirates have 30,000.

- black clouds, rain, wind, lightning and fire batter the samurai. Aside from Kaido's power, remember Kanjuro's clouds?

- Otakemaru pursues Suzuka Gozen but is constantly rebuffed, similar to Orochi.

- Suzuka Gozen spends a night with Tamuramaro and tells him of the swords needed for victory, reminiscent of Zoro and Hiyori.

- the three holy swords... yeah.

- head comes off. The almighty link to ZKK. Time will tell

 

[Halyup]

While you may argue that it's not proof of ZKK, it's obvious that Oda takes inspiration from this story:

- Otakemaru is considered a god and a demon. Kaido is considered an oni and a dragon.

- a great yokai alongside Shuten Doji, an obvious inspiration for the name of Ashura Doji/Shutenmaru

- the emperor's horseman army is 30,000. The beast pirates have 30,000.

- black clouds, rain, wind, lightning and fire batter the samurai. Aside from Kaido's power, remember Kanjuro's clouds?

- Otakemaru pursues Suzuka Gozen but is constantly rebuffed, similar to Orochi.

- Suzuka Gozen spends a night with Tamuramaro and tells him of the swords needed for victory, reminiscent of Zoro and Hiyori.

- the three holy swords... yeah.

- head comes off. The almighty link to ZKK. Time will tell

Luffy bros how do we cope for this new theory

 

[Monet]

intersting
also thanks @Fn Lucci


hmmm then it's possibel that even kaidou when chops his head he will not die as well ?!

 

[The White Crane]

I know this is one of the most controversial topics out there but I recently came across a reddit post/theory (not linking that post because the person ends it in saying that Wano will have 5 acts and in act 5 it will be Luffy vs Sengoku and Zoro vs Kaido) and like most theories where the current story is related in some way or loosely based on a Japanese folktale etc. this one really caught my eye. If there are some Japanese here or someone more knowledgeable on this subject please enlighten us. The link is here https://yokai.com/ootakemaru/

It is the story of Otakemaru who is an oni and to defeat him the samurai requires three sacred swords, two of these are provided to him by a goddess (whom he later marries). He kills him once (chops his head off) but the oni comes back after some time and he has to kill him again (again chops his head off) and then the head is locked away somewhere.

It is a very bad summary (mine) and the actual story maybe even bigger than what I read but I just thought that will all the threads that people have made about this theory I have so far not come across any reference to this legend/folktale.

antizorobros......once again we lost to japanese folktale.....

While you may argue that it's not proof of ZKK, it's obvious that Oda takes inspiration from this story:

- Otakemaru is considered a god and a demon. Kaido is considered an oni and a dragon.

- a great yokai alongside Shuten Doji, an obvious inspiration for the name of Ashura Doji/Shutenmaru

- the emperor's horseman army is 30,000. The beast pirates have 30,000.

- black clouds, rain, wind, lightning and fire batter the samurai. Aside from Kaido's power, remember Kanjuro's clouds?

- Otakemaru pursues Suzuka Gozen but is constantly rebuffed, similar to Orochi.

- Suzuka Gozen spends a night with Tamuramaro and tells him of the swords needed for victory, reminiscent of Zoro and Hiyori.

- the three holy swords... yeah.

- head comes off. The almighty link to ZKK. Time will tell

Luffy bros how do we cope for this new theory

intersting
also thanks @Fn Lucci

hmmm then it's possibel that even kaidou when chops his head he will not die as well ?!

ZKK is upon us all.

 

[Monet]

ZKK is upon us all.

 

[Finalbeta]

The Hour is getting nearer

Even Shanks makes a move this year

Anything can occur

 

[cleanmrpostman]

I read this a while ago and the connections overall are undeniable. Another famous Oni story is Shuten-doji which connects to Kaido fairly well in some regards as well, but the general idea of comparing Oni to Zoro is there in my opinion. Oda making Kaido both Oni and Dragon is no coincidence

 

[uyuu]

I know this is one of the most controversial topics out there but I recently came across a reddit post/theory (not linking that post because the person ends it in saying that Wano will have 5 acts and in act 5 it will be Luffy vs Sengoku and Zoro vs Kaido) and like most theories where the current story is related in some way or loosely based on a Japanese folktale etc. this one really caught my eye. If there are some Japanese here or someone more knowledgeable on this subject please enlighten us. The link is here https://yokai.com/ootakemaru/

It is the story of Otakemaru who is an oni and to defeat him the samurai requires three sacred swords, two of these are provided to him by a goddess (whom he later marries). He kills him once (chops his head off) but the oni comes back after some time and he has to kill him again (again chops his head off) and then the head is locked away somewhere.

It is a very bad summary (mine) and the actual story maybe even bigger than what I read but I just thought that will all the threads that people have made about this theory I have so far not come across any reference to this legend/folktale.

Wait Luffy vs Sengoku? Sengoku is...old isnt he? He has...no relevance to Wano either is he?

 

[Blazing Lion]

Wait Luffy vs Sengoku? Sengoku is...old isnt he? He has...no relevance to Wano either is he?

Yeah, the theory overall was quite weird it wad just this folklore that caught my eye.

 

[JoNdule]

Oh no ZKK is real

 

[PurpleSwordsman]

 

[Kerkovian]

 

[Finalbeta]

 

[Blazing Lion]

I genuinely don't know which posts are positive discussion posts and which ones are just sarcasm and troll posts.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Luffy bros how do we cope for this new theory

you dont
you cope with what's actually written in the story not some fan based speculation.

 

[m0nst3Rx]

thanks for sharing

 

[Tai long]

you guys know oda is not forced to follow mythology down to the bone he can get some reference hee and there but he doesn't need to follow everything like how there never was a luffy, macro, moma and yamato vs kaido

 

[Blazing Lion]

you guys know oda is not forced to follow mythology down to the bone he can get some reference hee and there but he doesn't need to follow everything like how there never was a luffy, macro, moma and yamato vs kaido

Nobody is saying that Oda does follow a story, that would be bad writing, but no one can deny that Oda does take inspiration from these things.