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Still devil fruit power. And you said yourself, he just runs out of energy, not life. Of course, still not 100% given the state Luffy is in right now. It is not some randomly made Senju bean out of ass. Now with grim reaper, it is going to be another asspull even mor than whatever erza pulled in fairy tail. 
Yet Luffy got his awakening just by being hit real hard a bunch of times and was somehow able to instantly regain the power by concentrating on his heartbeat. How is that any less of an asspull?
Oh please, can you people stop talking about consequences. What consequence? Will he lose his hand, leg, or penis? Nothing. Will he lose his life span? No. Then what the fuck is this consequence? This so called could be called consequence if it anyway affect his fight with King. At the end of the day, if didn't. So please don't talk about consequence. And who told you there are no G5 aftereffects?
I didn't say it ain't an asspull. It is an asspull. But Zoro fans have bo right to talk about Luffy asspulls. Any other fandom can comment because there were no asspulls for other characters. Sanji powerup is no asspull. It is the only logical powerup.
Oh, Luffy got awakened at the death door only. Atleast there is no grim reaper asspull which Zoro is going to have right now. Like fighting grim reaper or something. Let us talk about biggest ever asspull if plot unfolds in such a way.
So then Luffy also injured in the fight and he was nearly at death state before awakening. Just because he gained stamina post awakening doesn't mean he wasn't near death before that.
God knows what state he is in right now.
Oh, Luffy got awakened at the death door only. Atleast there is no grim reaper asspull which Zoro is going to have right now. Like fighting grim reaper or something. Let us talk about biggest ever asspull if plot unfolds in such a way.
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So then Luffy also injured in the fight and he was nearly at death state before awakening. Just because he gained stamina post awakening doesn't mean he wasn't near death before that.
God knows what state he is in right now.
The fact that you think Sanji's power-up isn't an asspull while Zoro's is an asspull is ridiculous
You realize that WCI literally enforced the idea that Sanji is a regular fucking human without modifications? And on top of that, Oda removed all of the negative effects of the exoskeleton by not having Sanji actually lose his emotions
Y'all complain and complain about Enma yet it has more negative effects for Zoro than Luffy and Sanji's PUs have for them combined
And you are literally using a potential future plot that hasn't happened yet as an argument for why Zoro gets asspulls lmao
You realize that WCI literally enforced the idea that Sanji is a regular fucking human without modifications? And on top of that, Oda removed all of the negative effects of the exoskeleton by not having Sanji actually lose his emotions
Y'all complain and complain about Enma yet it has more negative effects for Zoro than Luffy and Sanji's PUs have for them combined
And you are literally using a potential future plot that hasn't happened yet as an argument for why Zoro gets asspulls lmao
Negative effect? Lol. All powerup comes with negative effect for Luffy whereas Zoro has no such negative effects. Lol, g2,g3 losing life span. G4 losing haki and becoming deadweight for 10 minutes. No idea about G5 drawback yet.
What negative effect Zoro got after Ashura and now after getting CoC? And even enma case, how is it negative effect when he is not using correctly his sword? He himself told he is not properly using it. Once he properly used it, boom he got CoC. And no negative effect. So please, stop talking about consequences.
Regarding grim reaper plot, I am just saying what can happen. That is what it can happen mostly. I mean your majority of fanbase is literally predicting that Zoro defeats grim reaper and most likely thing Oda will do given how much he loves his Japanese based characters.
What negative effect Zoro got after Ashura and now after getting CoC? And even enma case, how is it negative effect when he is not using correctly his sword? He himself told he is not properly using it. Once he properly used it, boom he got CoC. And no negative effect. So please, stop talking about consequences.
Regarding grim reaper plot, I am just saying what can happen. That is what it can happen mostly. I mean your majority of fanbase is literally predicting that Zoro defeats grim reaper and most likely thing Oda will do given how much he loves his Japanese based characters.
Gandhi is the one ordering Cp0 to assassinate Kuina (by poisoning, leading to fatal domestic accident back then) to sever the lineage of Shimotsuki. Little did he know that Koushiro (son of Shimotsuki Kouzaburou) was actually just Kuina's foster parent. And Zoro is actually Koushirou's biological son.
There we have it, the reason of Zoro vs Gandhi after Zoro defeats Mihawk.
Zoro will create his own original technique: King of The Night, the Vampiric Armament Haki that drinks other armament hakis from Black Blades and enemies alike, defeating Gandhi with it.
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Sanji will defeat Kizaru since Sanji feels Kizaru is too handsome.
There we have it, the reason of Zoro vs Gandhi after Zoro defeats Mihawk.
Zoro will create his own original technique: King of The Night, the Vampiric Armament Haki that drinks other armament hakis from Black Blades and enemies alike, defeating Gandhi with it.
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Sanji will defeat Kizaru since Sanji feels Kizaru is too handsome.
Dude, I said in my original comment that I was talking about Wano specifically. And either way, none of the drawbacks you mentioned for Luffy come close to Enma literally sucking the life force out of Zoro if he's not careful. Even the whole "G2 drains Luffy's lifespan" was never touched upon again after he used it once
Enma draining Zoro's haki is not about how "correctly" he uses it. It happens passively. All Zoro can do is get used to it better. And no, there is no consequence to Zoro using CoC but there is a consequence to Zoro using KoH mode...where Zoro said his sword was going to kill him if he kept it up much longer
Think about all of the boosts that the M3 have gotten in Wano:
Luffy:
-Ryuo
-ACoC
-DF Awakening (G5)
Zoro:
-Enma
-KoH/ACoC
*Also received the mink medicine
Sanji:
-Raid Suit
-Exoskeleton/IJ
Out of Luffy's boosts, Ryuo should not be considered an asspull. But if you want to consider ACoC an asspull for Zoro, then you should also consider in an asspull for Luffy because it came out of nowhere after Luffy got hit really hard. Same thing for his DF awakening.
And yet, Luffy has spammed ACoC attacks without consequence and we have yet to see any consequences whatsoever for G5.
As for Sanji, the Raid Suit gave him access to free external power without any negative effects. So it is an asspull. The exoskeleton had the potential to give Sanji meaningful consequences but Oda scrapped them.
Now look at Zoro.
Enma constantly drains his haki and almost got him killed against King. Enma restricts Zoro's usage of KoH mode as well. Even if you wanna say Zoro getting ACoC was an asspull, at least there is some kind of tangible drawback to Enma. Even if you say the mink medicine was an asspull, at least Zoro paid the toll. Oda could've easily just had him take the medicine and go off on his merry way
You can say Zoro gets asspulls. Clearly he does. But I truly can't understand how you're managing to believe that Zoro is the "king of asspulls" and gets less consequences than Luffy or Sanji
Enma draining Zoro's haki is not about how "correctly" he uses it. It happens passively. All Zoro can do is get used to it better. And no, there is no consequence to Zoro using CoC but there is a consequence to Zoro using KoH mode...where Zoro said his sword was going to kill him if he kept it up much longer
Think about all of the boosts that the M3 have gotten in Wano:
Luffy:
-Ryuo
-ACoC
-DF Awakening (G5)
Zoro:
-Enma
-KoH/ACoC
*Also received the mink medicine
Sanji:
-Raid Suit
-Exoskeleton/IJ
Out of Luffy's boosts, Ryuo should not be considered an asspull. But if you want to consider ACoC an asspull for Zoro, then you should also consider in an asspull for Luffy because it came out of nowhere after Luffy got hit really hard. Same thing for his DF awakening.
And yet, Luffy has spammed ACoC attacks without consequence and we have yet to see any consequences whatsoever for G5.
As for Sanji, the Raid Suit gave him access to free external power without any negative effects. So it is an asspull. The exoskeleton had the potential to give Sanji meaningful consequences but Oda scrapped them.
Now look at Zoro.
Enma constantly drains his haki and almost got him killed against King. Enma restricts Zoro's usage of KoH mode as well. Even if you wanna say Zoro getting ACoC was an asspull, at least there is some kind of tangible drawback to Enma. Even if you say the mink medicine was an asspull, at least Zoro paid the toll. Oda could've easily just had him take the medicine and go off on his merry way
You can say Zoro gets asspulls. Clearly he does. But I truly can't understand how you're managing to believe that Zoro is the "king of asspulls" and gets less consequences than Luffy or Sanji
So that's a good thing that Luffy doesn't have Oden's sword, hell he has nothing to do with Oden or anything in Wano, he just self inserted in the fight and got carried by Zoro and 20 different asspulls. 
And Zoro ass got carried around by Sanji, Law and now by Franky. As a matter of fact if it weren't for Luffy's interference, Zoro and Law would be 6 feet under the ground. Their lucky Luffy got his ass back up. Atleast those powerups were earned through actual training and constant battle. Meanwhile Zoro got handed a Kaido cutting weapon on a silver platter. 
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So awakening your devil fruit is an asspull while being gifted with Enma and getting CoC isn't? Lol, zoloturds are the most intellectually handicapped humans in the planet.
So you develop CoC in before marineford but learn to coat it now by being hit with it is asspull but getting AdvCoc after getting Enma is not? Lol, you lost all the relevance. Zoro getting Enma and CoC is the biggest asspull ever. Learning you cancoat CoC after being hit by it multiple times ain't asspull lad. You have lost all relevance here. Luffy has been fighting and fighting for the last 2 years and he getting awakening after nearly dying is an asspull? Lol, you are a joke pal.
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