Powers & Abilities So does everyone agree Enma not a power up now.
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Just look the development for Enma and Shusui.
Shusui was barely staged (No hype, just a test). Same for Yubashiri. The only sword which get as much hype in OP was the sandai and it's a big power-up.
I mean Enma was hyped during 3 chapters, get his name as a title of chapter and so on.
I never seen in shonen a training tool gets as much development.
Now which one has the best portrayal (story-telling wise) ?
That is an headcannon you dont know if Yoru was better than WB Blade before he gets Black or after he gets Black. You dont even know if yoru is better because he turned Black.
The only thing we can say is Oda made a big Build-up for Enma even before we know his rank. If they were just equal or Enma being weaker he could just have said they have the same rank.
But Oda did go further in his build-up. So he wants us to understand Enma is better.
None author made such stuff for something weaker or equal.
An exemple of that is when Zoro has replaced his two swords broked by mihawk in Arlong park he just taked two random swords to replace two random swords so they are equal.
Oda didn't need to make a build up for this replacement.
Now I'm waiting for your arguments and my headcannons.
Shusui was barely staged (No hype, just a test). Same for Yubashiri. The only sword which get as much hype in OP was the sandai and it's a big power-up.
I mean Enma was hyped during 3 chapters, get his name as a title of chapter and so on.
I never seen in shonen a training tool gets as much development.
Now which one has the best portrayal (story-telling wise) ?
That is an headcannon you dont know if Yoru was better than WB Blade before he gets Black or after he gets Black. You dont even know if yoru is better because he turned Black.
The only thing we can say is Oda made a big Build-up for Enma even before we know his rank. If they were just equal or Enma being weaker he could just have said they have the same rank.
But Oda did go further in his build-up. So he wants us to understand Enma is better.
None author made such stuff for something weaker or equal.
An exemple of that is when Zoro has replaced his two swords broked by mihawk in Arlong park he just taked two random swords to replace two random swords so they are equal.
Oda didn't need to make a build up for this replacement.
Now I'm waiting for your arguments and my headcannons.
Shisui was hyped when Zoro first got it. It was Ryuma sword that cut a dragon. The same Ryuma along with Mihawk who is the only ones to even have a black blade in the series so far. When he started using it on thrillerbark, it literally absorbed other flying slash to make attack stronger. Enma was hyped along woth some other Sword that cut Kaido too. Enma wasn't the only sword that Cut Kaido. So another Sword of the same rank also had same hype. Lol look at that same rank swprds doing same damn thing.
You have seen it. In one piece Zoro using Enma to get stronger which is the same rank has Shisui.
What i do know is Mihawk and WB sword are the same level and his Sword turned black. Enma never ever said Enma is better. Literally another Sword pf the same rank cut Kaido
You have seen it. In one piece Zoro using Enma to get stronger which is the same rank has Shisui.
What i do know is Mihawk and WB sword are the same level and his Sword turned black. Enma never ever said Enma is better. Literally another Sword pf the same rank cut Kaido
So Enma was way more hyped.
Enma cut a Dragon too and a way more OP dragon.
However feats doesn't work here because they depends of the user.
Again black blade depends of the user.A sword can't became Black by herself.
Same for Enma.
If it was just Zoro's CoA no one will notice it.
I never talked about feats but portrayal. Re-read what I wrote please.
Feats depends too much on the user to be reliable here.
That's just your interpretation. You know it's not an argument right ?
Headcannon. You dont know if it's because Yoru is black that he have the same level as mukamogiri.
Enma cut a Dragon too and a way more OP dragon.
However feats doesn't work here because they depends of the user.
Again black blade depends of the user.A sword can't became Black by herself.
Same for Enma.
If it was just Zoro's CoA no one will notice it.
I never talked about feats but portrayal. Re-read what I wrote please.
Feats depends too much on the user to be reliable here.
That's just your interpretation. You know it's not an argument right ?
Headcannon. You dont know if it's because Yoru is black that he have the same level as mukamogiri.
Agreed, it depends on the user. Doesn't matter because Shisui was already Black so thats apart of its hype.
What are you talking. We were told what Enma does. It sucks the users Haki to make attack stronger. Shisui made Zoro attack power better immediately. Enma just takes Haki Zoro didn't want it to take and uses it. It doesn't make Zoro stronger.
The potrayal is the same for the other Sword that cut Kaido. Literally same rank Swords that cut Kaido. Stop it they were even introduced together.
Thats not interpretation. Thats literally a fact. Zoro was training with Enma to get stronger has a Swordsman. Thats not interpretation. Its a fact its in the manga. Luffy is a rubberman that ate a DF. Thats a Fact.
I give you the last thing about Mihawk. Still doesn't change my point.
Also how much weaker is Zoro if he puts down Enma and picks up Shisui right now?
What are you talking. We were told what Enma does. It sucks the users Haki to make attack stronger. Shisui made Zoro attack power better immediately. Enma just takes Haki Zoro didn't want it to take and uses it. It doesn't make Zoro stronger.
The potrayal is the same for the other Sword that cut Kaido. Literally same rank Swords that cut Kaido. Stop it they were even introduced together.
Thats not interpretation. Thats literally a fact. Zoro was training with Enma to get stronger has a Swordsman. Thats not interpretation. Its a fact its in the manga. Luffy is a rubberman that ate a DF. Thats a Fact.
I give you the last thing about Mihawk. Still doesn't change my point.
Also how much weaker is Zoro if he puts down Enma and picks up Shisui right now?
Which one as the best hype Enma or Shusui ?
Enma for sure. Why will Oda give a better hype for a sword which is just a training tool ?
It make no sense. Shonen are made to be easy and follow easy rules. When something is more hyped than an other one is better.
Why do you think Shusui will be the only exceptions in all Shonen ?
I know what Enma does. It sucks you CoA to cuts deeper. So those attack are stronger than zoro normal's attack. It's not CoA zoro doesn't Want. Maybe It's CoA zoro can't use.
Just no. When did the other sword was introduced 3 chapter before is first appearance ? Where is the chapter it get at his own name ? And so on
I guess every Warlord has the same power since they are at the same rank.
If you have Just read what I wrote. I said Enma is a two part PowerUp. Enma is better than shusui and trains Zoro to control his CoA better. Like Luffy with gear second or 3rd, First you earn a boost with drawbacks and after you gets a second boost when you master it. But you just dont read.
Have you a power level scanner ?
Enma for sure. Why will Oda give a better hype for a sword which is just a training tool ?
It make no sense. Shonen are made to be easy and follow easy rules. When something is more hyped than an other one is better.
Why do you think Shusui will be the only exceptions in all Shonen ?
I know what Enma does. It sucks you CoA to cuts deeper. So those attack are stronger than zoro normal's attack. It's not CoA zoro doesn't Want. Maybe It's CoA zoro can't use.
Just no. When did the other sword was introduced 3 chapter before is first appearance ? Where is the chapter it get at his own name ? And so on
I guess every Warlord has the same power since they are at the same rank.
If you have Just read what I wrote. I said Enma is a two part PowerUp. Enma is better than shusui and trains Zoro to control his CoA better. Like Luffy with gear second or 3rd, First you earn a boost with drawbacks and after you gets a second boost when you master it. But you just dont read.
Have you a power level scanner ?
