Questions & Mysteries Did Luffy defeat Aokiji and garp

#23
Aokji just decided not to kill the straw hats.


There's no deal made. He even tells us he could have crushed Luffy like he was nothing.

And again with the pathetic threads. I see people are still butt hurt and triggered because Zoro stopped Kuma from capturing Luffy.


There is no scene showing Kuma claim he won't capture Luffy because he is Dragon son. That is headcannon being pushed.


Now they are trying to say that Luffy won Marineford? They get more and more pathetic.
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Is that why Ace and WB we're both killed there. Yes, Luffy failed to save his brother. Then need it bigger brother Shanks and everyone to save him while he was unconscious.


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#24
he defeated garp, aokiji, bigmom and also sengoku since he saved ace right under his nose
Look, this is a situation comparable to that of Zoro-Kuma. Luffy had a victory over Big Mom by rescuing Sanji.

On the other hand, of course Luffy didn't win in Marine Ford, he couldn't save Ace and if he survived it was thanks to others.

This just shows that you have no reading comprehension.

Of course your problem is that you are scaling it down to power and in this case, Zoro beating Kuma doesn't mean Zoro > Kuma or Luffy over Big Mom means Luffy > Big Mom.

Your obsession with power scales clouds your mind and prevents you from enjoying One Piece.
 
#25
Aokji just decided not to kill the straw hats.


There's no deal made. He even tells us he could have crushed Luffy like he was nothing.

And again with the pathetic threads. I see people are still butt hurt and triggered because Zoro stopped Kuma from capturing Luffy.


There is no scene showing Kuma claim he won't capture Luffy because he is Dragon son. That is headcannon being pushed.


Now they are trying to say that Luffy won Marineford? They get more and more pathetic.
:milaugh:

Is that why Ace and WB we're both killed there. Yes, Luffy failed to save his brother. Then need it bigger brother Shanks and everyone to save him while he was unconscious.


:milaugh::milaugh::milaugh::milaugh:
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You just chose to ignore the panel above
 
#27
Look, this is a situation comparable to that of Zoro-Kuma. Luffy had a victory over Big Mom by rescuing Sanji.

On the other hand, of course Luffy didn't win in Marine Ford, he couldn't save Ace and if he survived it was thanks to others.

This just shows that you have no reading comprehension.

Of course your problem is that you are scaling it down to power and in this case, Zoro beating Kuma doesn't mean Zoro > Kuma or Luffy over Big Mom means Luffy > Big Mom.

Your obsession with power scales clouds your mind and prevents you from enjoying One Piece.
I said if zoro defeated kuma then luffy defeated aokiji or maybe no one defeated anybody
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I see the scene where he said he agreed to settle it one versus one and he won.
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Agree isn’t that what zoro and kuma did or did kuma just say let me just randomly leave the sh
 
#28
Since people are of the opinion that zoro defeated kuma because zoro made kuma spare the crew does that mean luffy also defeated aokiji who actually would have killed the crew who unlike kuma that his luffy’s dad lackey since aokiji could not kill the SH and robin since luffy defeated him
Erm...Zoro didnt defeat Kuma...he managed to surpass Kuma's expectations since he survived a single pain/damage-transfer technique...
 
#30
I said if zoro defeated kuma then luffy defeated aokiji or maybe no one defeated anybody
Yes, Zoro defeats Kuma. No, Luffy didn't defeat Aokiji. Yes, Luffy defeated Big Mom. No, Luffy did not emerge victorious from Marine Ford. That if Zoro beats Kuma, then Luffy beats Aokiji is a pathetic argument.

Every situation is a World. Each situation requires your analysis. And of course none of these situations has to do with the scales of power.
 
#33
Yes, Zoro defeats Kuma. No, Luffy didn't defeat Aokiji. Yes, Luffy defeated Big Mom. No, Luffy did not emerge victorious from Marine Ford. That if Zoro beats Kuma, then Luffy beats Aokiji is a pathetic argument.

Every situation is a World. Each situation requires your analysis. And of course none of these situations has to do with the scales of power.
Zoro just convinced Kuma to spare Luffy...
 
#35
Zoro just convinced Kuma to spare Luffy...
That's precisely why it's a Zoro win. It got to a point where Zoro realized that he couldn't defeat Kuma by force, so he decided to exchange his life for Luffy's. Zoro's intention was to save Luffy even at the cost of his life and he succeeded. What's more, I kept his life, so it was a great victory for Zoro.

Zoro did not win the match, but he did achieve his goal.

The same in the case of Luffy and Big Mom. Luffy didn't want to defeat Mom, he wanted to rescue Sanji and he got it, it was his victory. And so the newspapers reported it.

The rest of what he read is nonsense, especially Luffy's victory in Marine Ford, when his goal was to save Ace and he didn't get it and on top of that he almost lost his life if it wasn't for the help of others.

I think it is easy to understand. Not all victories are decided by a clean punch.
 
#38
That's precisely why it's a Zoro win. It got to a point where Zoro realized that he couldn't defeat Kuma by force, so he decided to exchange his life for Luffy's. Zoro's intention was to save Luffy even at the cost of his life and he succeeded. What's more, I kept his life, so it was a great victory for Zoro.

Zoro did not win the match, but he did achieve his goal.

The same in the case of Luffy and Big Mom. Luffy didn't want to defeat Mom, he wanted to rescue Sanji and he got it, it was his victory. And so the newspapers reported it.

The rest of what he read is nonsense, especially Luffy's victory in Marine Ford, when his goal was to save Ace and he didn't get it and on top of that he almost lost his life if it wasn't for the help of others.

I think it is easy to understand. Not all victories are decided by a clean punch.
If you say Zoro win against Kuma without relating to powerlevel, then you might be right. It's just that the thread opener imply that there are members feeling that Zoro won against Kuma in a fight and powerscaling, which was not the case.
 
#39
If you say Zoro win against Kuma without relating to powerlevel, then you might be right. It's just that the thread opener imply that there are members feeling that Zoro won against Kuma in a fight and powerscaling, which was not the case.
On the contrary friend. No one talked about scales of power. It's just that the one who opened the thread, read that Zoro defeated Kuma and automatically related it to the scales of power.

He has opened two threads, in which I think no one said that Zoro defeated Kuma because Zoro > Kuma, but the guy doesn't seem to understand no matter how much they explain it to him.
 
#40
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On the contrary friend. No one talked about scales of power. It's just that the one who opened the thread, read that Zoro defeated Kuma and automatically related it to the scales of power.

He has opened two threads, in which I think no one said that Zoro defeated Kuma because Zoro > Kuma, but the guy doesn't seem to understand no matter how much they explain it to him.
when did I say zoro > kuma I said if zoro defeated kuma then luffy also defeated aokiji
 
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