Questions & Mysteries Did Luffy defeat Aokiji and garp
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None of the dialogue is the same at all. Look at the wagers set
And the outcomes
And tell me how any of it is the same. You think it's the same but Luffy said he lost and Aokiji claimed the victory. Where did that happen with Kuma and Zoro?
And the outcomes
And tell me how any of it is the same. You think it's the same but Luffy said he lost and Aokiji claimed the victory. Where did that happen with Kuma and Zoro?
The situation doesn't need to be the same? Lol. So you're trying to say that "something different happened, but actually the... same thing happened"?
Kuma said he'd send Zoro to hell. Aokiji said he could send Luffy to hell, but wasn't going to because of Alabasta. Different things are different lol
I'd be tempted to agree with you if I couldn't read. If you can't acknowledge the difference in what was said you're only lying to yourself.
And because you mentioned Garp... that escape from the Marines? Yeah, THAT was a victory and it was due to the whole crew, especially since Luffy couldn't move after fighting Lucci and they evaded Garp later with a coup de burst. It's a victory because they said as much both times, even if they only escaped Garp on Water Seven because he chose not to capture his grandson.
Lol I'm not paraphrasing, I'm posting the actual manga. I'll have to show you the whole series apparently, because clearly you only skimmed it to catch up.
Kuma said he'd send Zoro to hell. Aokiji said he could send Luffy to hell, but wasn't going to because of Alabasta. Different things are different lol
I'd be tempted to agree with you if I couldn't read. If you can't acknowledge the difference in what was said you're only lying to yourself.
And because you mentioned Garp... that escape from the Marines? Yeah, THAT was a victory and it was due to the whole crew, especially since Luffy couldn't move after fighting Lucci and they evaded Garp later with a coup de burst. It's a victory because they said as much both times, even if they only escaped Garp on Water Seven because he chose not to capture his grandson.
Lol I'm not paraphrasing, I'm posting the actual manga. I'll have to show you the whole series apparently, because clearly you only skimmed it to catch up.
The situation doesn't need to be the same? Lol. So you're trying to say that "something different happened, but actually the... same thing happened"?
Kuma said he'd send Zoro to hell. Aokiji said he could send Luffy to hell, but wasn't going to because of Alabasta. Different things are different lol
I'd be tempted to agree with you if I couldn't read. If you can't acknowledge the difference in what was said you're only lying to yourself.
And because you mentioned Garp... that escape from the Marines? Yeah, THAT was a victory and it was due to the whole crew, especially since Luffy couldn't move after fighting Lucci and they evaded Garp later with a coup de burst. It's a victory because they said as much both times, even if they only escaped Garp on Water Seven because he chose not to capture his grandson.
Lol I'm not paraphrasing, I'm posting the actual manga. I'll have to show you the whole series apparently, because clearly you only skimmed it to catch up.
Kuma said he'd send Zoro to hell. Aokiji said he could send Luffy to hell, but wasn't going to because of Alabasta. Different things are different lol
I'd be tempted to agree with you if I couldn't read. If you can't acknowledge the difference in what was said you're only lying to yourself.
And because you mentioned Garp... that escape from the Marines? Yeah, THAT was a victory and it was due to the whole crew, especially since Luffy couldn't move after fighting Lucci and they evaded Garp later with a coup de burst. It's a victory because they said as much both times, even if they only escaped Garp on Water Seven because he chose not to capture his grandson.
Lol I'm not paraphrasing, I'm posting the actual manga. I'll have to show you the whole series apparently, because clearly you only skimmed it to catch up.
They don't to be exactly the same as long as they are similar that's what we call an analogy
Aokiji's objective was to Kill Robin he didn't succeed
Kuma's objective was to capture Luffy he didn't succeed
In one case you said it is a defeat in the other one you don't despite both failed to achieve their objective eventhough they could
Aokiji's objective was to Kill Robin he didn't succeed
Kuma's objective was to capture Luffy he didn't succeed
In one case you said it is a defeat in the other one you don't despite both failed to achieve their objective eventhough they could
LMAO that's not an analogy. That's a comparison, which doesn't need to have a particular similarity one way or the other. An analogy isn't two things that are similar or seemingly equal at face value, an analogy takes two completely different things and ties them together explicitly by what's similar.
Playing with fire and recreational gambling form an analogy. Winning a boxing match by unanimous decision and winning a boxing match by split decision don't form an analogy. I'm not sure how you didn't get this concept but you're welcome.
As for Aokiji's objective, it was NEVER to kill Robin and he was never ordered to do so except for Ohara. The world government was fine with him only reporting because they already had a plan to blackmail her into working with CP9. Aokiji figured that either she would run or they would succeed, not that she had found reliable friends... which was fine by him.
"Chill kids, you are the ones who should learn to listen"
"How disappointing, I thought you'd be smarter than this"
I have a lot of empathy for this character now lol
Aokiji spared Robin, but he was never given a direct order like Kuma or Garp, who were both held accountable for failure by Sengoku. Aokiji decided not to participate in the chase with Garp, and they had no idea just how close he'd gotten to Robin. The worst thing the govt actually had for Aokiji was not electing him for a promotion over Akainu.
But it's all in the manga. You don't post your own evidence because you don't have any confidence in your comparison. Can't even show proof of what Kuma intended back when he started picking Luffy up, just stall with dumb questions with the hope that someone else will. If you're just going to waste my time like that, not showing the actual story to support your assertion, I'm done with you two.
Playing with fire and recreational gambling form an analogy. Winning a boxing match by unanimous decision and winning a boxing match by split decision don't form an analogy. I'm not sure how you didn't get this concept but you're welcome.
As for Aokiji's objective, it was NEVER to kill Robin and he was never ordered to do so except for Ohara. The world government was fine with him only reporting because they already had a plan to blackmail her into working with CP9. Aokiji figured that either she would run or they would succeed, not that she had found reliable friends... which was fine by him.
"Chill kids, you are the ones who should learn to listen"
"How disappointing, I thought you'd be smarter than this"
I have a lot of empathy for this character now lol
But it's all in the manga. You don't post your own evidence because you don't have any confidence in your comparison. Can't even show proof of what Kuma intended back when he started picking Luffy up, just stall with dumb questions with the hope that someone else will. If you're just going to waste my time like that, not showing the actual story to support your assertion, I'm done with you two.
LMAO that's not an analogy. That's a comparison, which doesn't need to have a particular similarity one way or the other. An analogy isn't two things that are similar or seemingly equal at face value, an analogy takes two completely different things and ties them together explicitly by what's similar.
Playing with fire and recreational gambling form an analogy. Winning a boxing match by unanimous decision and winning a boxing match by split decision don't form an analogy. I'm not sure how you didn't get this concept but you're welcome.
As for Aokiji's objective, it was NEVER to kill Robin and he was never ordered to do so except for Ohara. The world government was fine with him only reporting because they already had a plan to blackmail her into working with CP9. Aokiji figured that either she would run or they would succeed, not that she had found reliable friends... which was fine by him.
"Chill kids, you are the ones who should learn to listen"
"How disappointing, I thought you'd be smarter than this"
I have a lot of empathy for this character now lol
Aokiji spared Robin, but he was never given a direct order like Kuma or Garp, who were both held accountable for failure by Sengoku. Aokiji decided not to participate in the chase with Garp, and they had no idea just how close he'd gotten to Robin. The worst thing the govt actually had for Aokiji was not electing him for a promotion over Akainu.
But it's all in the manga. You don't post your own evidence because you don't have any confidence in your comparison. Can't even show proof of what Kuma intended back when he started picking Luffy up, just stall with dumb questions with the hope that someone else will. If you're just going to waste my time like that, not showing the actual story to support your assertion, I'm done with you two.
Playing with fire and recreational gambling form an analogy. Winning a boxing match by unanimous decision and winning a boxing match by split decision don't form an analogy. I'm not sure how you didn't get this concept but you're welcome.
As for Aokiji's objective, it was NEVER to kill Robin and he was never ordered to do so except for Ohara. The world government was fine with him only reporting because they already had a plan to blackmail her into working with CP9. Aokiji figured that either she would run or they would succeed, not that she had found reliable friends... which was fine by him.
"Chill kids, you are the ones who should learn to listen"
"How disappointing, I thought you'd be smarter than this"
I have a lot of empathy for this character now lol
But it's all in the manga. You don't post your own evidence because you don't have any confidence in your comparison. Can't even show proof of what Kuma intended back when he started picking Luffy up, just stall with dumb questions with the hope that someone else will. If you're just going to waste my time like that, not showing the actual story to support your assertion, I'm done with you two.
1. remove the pain and throw it away
2. send luffy to amazon lily
he would never have killed luffy canonically as that was shown in sabaody