[FNZ] Super Role Madness GimmeMy10McMuffins mafia

[BakiDou]

Vote lynch BakiDou

@BakiDou why do you think TAC is planning something big and why did you decide to go for a person who said that he’s going to be inactive for a while apart from the ones that are active?

Also skimming through your posts I can see that you are following the thread but I don’t see you giving any opinion about the current situations. I’m going to need your input here in or I’m absolutely fine voting you. You seem to be like a lurking type who’s caught up to everything yet keeping your safe distance.

Hello there Kagurashii, I was active when the wagon on tac and joygirl started, like most people who took part in that discussion I voted someone, to see the reactions of the others, my vote on tac is nothing serious, and if the dude wont come back/ is not investigated it wont remain there thats for sure. As for this: is planning something big/that dude is suspicious, as I said its just a joke.

Vote lynch BakiDou

@BakiDou You seem to be like a lurking type who’s caught up to everything yet keeping your safe distance.

Hell yeah, I try to keep my safe distance, but even doing this, it seems that its not enough, someone already tried to role crush me lol. But worry not i still stay strong in the face of those people who fire at random+ so far I have some town reads like t pain and dr profesor, you are also in the town lean section, in rest, the main players of this phase so far are the indie players, my opinion about them is meh, I dont believe that all of them are so good and fair with the town as they say, for example Blues win condition is killing some certain characters, and I don't remember him saying who they are, they could be town as well. Other than that dunno, I guess you are free to quote me other aspects you found interesting.

 

[Doddsy]

What if our Vig dies early we need to rely on Ratchet to play for us?
What if our Vig has abilities that when killing improve him or others?
What if our Vig who is actually on our team is way more reliable than ratchet?

The hell are you smoking to think Ratchet is better option than your actual teammate?

Ideally the vig wouldn't really do anything to get caught out via role usage so I think the odds are in favour that would not happen.

Did not overly consider the possibility of developing via kills - either way, I think the smartest usage would still be to hold shots and let Ratchet eliminate some scum while the vig holds for more concrete shots.

More reliable? Sure, I mean that's not at all the discussion. Again to the same point, I don't really know what you mean by 'better' option. As per my understanding, Ratchet kills whoever has the highest body count. If scum are the only ones shooting, that's a 100% success rate for us no?

Also the OMGUS is noted and doesn't much help your cause.

VOTE LYNCH POT GOBLIN

HE DOES NOT WANT TO COMMIT AGAIN THIS GAME AND HE WAS SCUM WHEN I HAVE SEEN HIM LIKE THIS.

From my limited experience of GoT I do recall Pot being more active/involved but this was also late game so anyone have any more insight into this?

 

[Fujishiro]

Advanced CoC was used on ???​

 

[Grammaton]

They haven’t developed much on Nana or Flowa. I did like your reads tho. Seems like you are now paying attention to other things than Ratchet.

what’s a pro indie town? I’m definitely not one of those lol

I’m at the point where I feel like I was probably wrong on you cause I think your pot goblin read is decent and I’d thought along similar lines myself

 

[Adam 🍎]

Ideally the vig wouldn't really do anything to get caught out via role usage so I think the odds are in favour that would not happen.

I do not play odds, the belief that vig won't be attacked bcs of chance is just downright wrong.

Did not overly consider the possibility of developing via kills - either way, I think the smartest usage would still be to hold shots and let Ratchet eliminate some scum while the vig holds for more concrete shots.

Again, if our Vig has tools that enable him to evolve or to secure kills for town then he should do it regardless of Ratchet. We are town, ratchet is indie, and as much Ratchie claims to be pro town i am sure even @Ratchet would advise vig to play as if ratchet isn't in the game

More reliable? Sure, I mean that's not at all the discussion. Again to the same point, I don't really know what you mean by 'better' option. As per my understanding, Ratchet kills whoever has the highest body count. If scum are the only ones shooting, that's a 100% success rate for us no?

Again, this is why i am voting you.

You are willing to put the fate of vigging in the hands of an unconfirmed indie rather than your own teammate. You are trust an indie more than you should trust your own teammate. It is as if you don't belong to the town overall

And ratchet only needs to kill people that kill, there are mafia and scum that don't need to kill to achieve their wincon

 

[Grammaton]

Feel like Adam is mostly posting shite, wouldn’t care if he died either

actually could just kill him myself, what you think?

 

[Doddsy]

I do not play odds, the belief that vig won't be attacked bcs of chance is just downright wrong.


Again, if our Vig has tools that enable him to evolve or to secure kills for town then he should do it regardless of Ratchet. We are town, ratchet is indie, and as much Ratchie claims to be pro town i am sure even @Ratchet would advise vig to play as if ratchet isn't in the game


Again, this is why i am voting you.

You are willing to put the fate of vigging in the hands of an unconfirmed indie rather than your own teammate. You are trust an indie more than you should trust your own teammate. It is as if you don't belong to the town overall

And ratchet only needs to kill people that kill, there are mafia and scum that don't need to kill to achieve their wincon

In this instance the vig will put them selves into more danger by shooting, is that not correct?

Also ratchet likely would not care either was as mentioned, their alignment doesn't matter for their wincon. The vig not shooting is beneficial to the vig in terms of not dying.

Again, as per understanding of the role there's not really any room to place faith or not, based on the claim whoever kills will be the ones to die. If town don't shoot, we aren't in jeopardy.

For the bolded part, where are you getting that from?

 

[Adam 🍎]

Feel like Adam is mostly posting shite, wouldn’t care if he died either

actually could just kill him myself, what you think?

empty threats on an empty basis from an empty player

either do it or stop being a whining player that seeks confirmation of others because he is scared to do it on his own initiative and needs failsafe to fall on when it undoably fails

 

[Doddsy]

Feel like Adam is mostly posting shite, wouldn’t care if he died either

actually could just kill him myself, what you think?

I mean I'm not super opposed to giving him more time but currently his posts do not appear to be from a town perspective

 

[T-Pein™]

Feel like Adam is mostly posting shite, wouldn’t care if he died either

actually could just kill him myself, what you think?

I co sign this kill tbh.

 

[Adam 🍎]

In this instance the vig will put them selves into more danger by shooting, is that not correct?

You can't be serious

Lets say role X kills a mafia.
Ratchet would look at that and be like - probably a vig shot
Ratchet would never attack a vig cause that would spell doom for him

Also ratchet likely would not care either was as mentioned, their alignment doesn't matter for their wincon. The vig not shooting is beneficial to the vig in terms of not dying.

again, you are saying Ratchet would actually attack a vig this early which is bonkers

Again, as per understanding of the role there's not really any room to place faith or not, based on the claim whoever kills will be the ones to die. If town don't shoot, we aren't in jeopardy.

And if ratchet kills a town vig early he will be lynched no question asked

For the bolded part, where are you getting that from?

You are acting as if mafia doesn't have investigators, disruptors, buss drivers, controllers, framers and all other mafia roles besides vig

 

[T-Pein™]

I mean I'm not super opposed to giving him more time but currently his posts do not appear to be from a town perspective

All of his posts revolve around indie Ratchet.
Indie hunters are usually just scum trying to look busy
Then he went after people that arent interested in the indies...

 

[T-Pein™]

Ratchet this
RATCHET that.
Ratchet Ratchet Ratchet...

 

[Grammaton]

empty threats on an empty basis from an empty player

either do it or stop being a whining player that seeks confirmation of others because he is scared to do it on his own initiative and needs failsafe to fall on when it undoably fails

adios

 

[T-Pein™]

Bif if tru

 

[Doddsy]

You can't be serious

Lets say role X kills a mafia.
Ratchet would look at that and be like - probably a vig shot
Ratchet would never attack a vig cause that would spell doom for him


again, you are saying Ratchet would actually attack a vig this early which is bonkers


And if ratchet kills a town vig early he will be lynched no question asked


You are acting as if mafia doesn't have investigators, disruptors, buss drivers, controllers, framers and all other mafia roles besides vig

This is all randomly under the assumption that the vig shoots scum successfully. On odds vig is more likely to hit town off a n1 shot, generally you're better off holding off this early regardless of Ratchet's role or not. Throw that in depending on target it might not be that cut and dry, especially depening on what options are presented, whether it be character or user name or what, I don't know fi that's been clarified.

What does them having investigators etc have to do with their wincon not being killing people?

All of his posts revolve around indie Ratchet.
Indie hunters are usually just scum trying to look busy
Then he went after people that arent interested in the indies...

I also bought that up earlier that too many people were busying themselves with indy sus

 

[Flower]

Guys, stop discussing Ratchet .

 

[Adam 🍎]

Guys, stop discussing Ratchet .

No one is discussing ratchet besides them, i am discussing doddsy's bad logic bad play

 

[Adam 🍎]

This is all randomly under the assumption that the vig shoots scum successfully. On odds vig is more likely to hit town off a n1 shot, generally you're better off holding off this early regardless of Ratchet's role or not. Throw that in depending on target it might not be that cut and dry, especially depening on what options are presented, whether it be character or user name or what, I don't know fi that's been clarified.

Vig ain't gonna shoot blindly the fuck you talking about

What does them having investigators etc have to do with their wincon not being killing people?

Because ratchet only needs to kill people that do the killing - ratchet has no obligation to kill any mafia that doesn't kill
That is the job our vig needs to do

 

[Grammaton]

I’m ride or die with tpein this game, I’ve decided