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The End and the Beginning
it isn’t nonsense at all. Our goals do not align, and anybody forgetting that fact isn’t qualified to hold an opinion, let alone act on one.

using the lynch on you would be perfectly fine if you continue to overleverage your position, which should never be elevated above that of the proverbial useful idiot

that’s not me calling you an idiot before you assume it is


"It is nonsense. Our goals may not align - but they can overlap, and not taking advantage of said overlap is only going to put your own faction behind. Why do you think an Indie role even exists, if not to swing between factions? I haven't really overleveraged anything, or even leveraged anything - yet. Like I've told you - I've assisted the Town to a degree, about as far as I care to, with the expectation that the Town will assist me in return. If I need to discard that to remove an element that forces me to expend resources combating, then I will do, because it will simply put me back into a position where I cannot rely on the Town going out of their way to assist me - which I don't trust they will anyway. If I'm lynched for covering myself, then the Town have wasted it, because I would only be doing what you could reasonably expect of me. As long as I don't flagrantly go out of my way to side against the Town (like Ekko did last game by joining Mafia directly) then all a lynch on me does is provide a carefree day for Scum."​
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
Isn’t it basically confirmed blue is Vergil at this point?

like the gif above your death is Vergil’s judgment cut lol


"No, and even if he is, he claims to be immune to actions for now, so I don't need to concern myself. I need to kill three targets, which means I can win no earlier than Day 4 anyway - the order matters not to me."​
 
Hello lovely people. Being right on the money with Ekko and T-Pein feels fantastic :moonwalk:Big Sis Nika aint that rusty afterall. Aside from threadmarkers I haven't read past page 105. I have reads on almost all the players and should come in with the cases within 24hours.

:choppawhat:I also did something... fufufufufu because I had to have my own fun. So I buffed @Ratchet :milaugh:
Do not disappoint me ._. :kata:Kill someone from this list:
TAC
Nana/Emi
Kagurashii
Yo Tan Wa
Mugen
Adam
Sallucion
MitchMatch

:myman:
 
20- @BakiDou : Mickey Mouse, Master Chief
21- @Lord Melkor : Gecko Moriah, Darth Vader
22- @RippedCal : Joe Bidden, Bcok Lesnar
23- @Midnight Delight : Allister Fiend, William Vangeance
24- @Adam 🍎 : Conqueror's Haki, Gear 5
25- @Doddsy : Frieza, Siegward
26- @Reborn : Adolf Hitler, Albert Einstein
27- @SoulKiller : Vergil, Dance
28- @LethalBanks : Arthur Morgan, Phillip J Fry.
29- @~UwU~ : Lambdadelta, Ushiromiya Replaced by @Nikamara
30- @Sallucion : Professor Chaos, King Dice
31- @MitchMatch : Gunbuster, King Gainer
32- @Joygirl : Samus Aran, Spike
33- @Ultra : Killer Rabbit, Fiver

Yo give us the census.
What? census? Is this a newfangled termed for reads? Aren't you like dead mafia? You trying to lead me astray? I'm not as dumb as I am ._.

 
Hello lovely people. Being right on the money with Ekko and T-Pein feels fantastic :moonwalk:Big Sis Nika aint that rusty afterall. Aside from threadmarkers I haven't read past page 105. I have reads on almost all the players and should come in with the cases within 24hours.

:choppawhat:I also did something... fufufufufu because I had to have my own fun. So I buffed @Ratchet :milaugh:
Do not disappoint me ._. :kata:Kill someone from this list:
TAC
Nana/Emi
Kagurashii
Yo Tan Wa
Mugen
Adam
Sallucion
MitchMatch

:myman:
Ratchet is a harmful indie trying to kill town vig....
 


"It is nonsense. Our goals may not align - but they can overlap, and not taking advantage of said overlap is only going to put your own faction behind. Why do you think an Indie role even exists, if not to swing between factions? I haven't really overleveraged anything, or even leveraged anything - yet. Like I've told you - I've assisted the Town to a degree, about as far as I care to, with the expectation that the Town will assist me in return. If I need to discard that to remove an element that forces me to expend resources combating, then I will do, because it will simply put me back into a position where I cannot rely on the Town going out of their way to assist me - which I don't trust they will anyway. If I'm lynched for covering myself, then the Town have wasted it, because I would only be doing what you could reasonably expect of me. As long as I don't flagrantly go out of my way to side against the Town (like Ekko did last game by joining Mafia directly) then all a lynch on me does is provide a carefree day for Scum."​
town can extract all the potential benefit of said overlap by simply strongarming you, there’s no need to treat you as any kind of equal citizen, or worse, decision maker.

if you refuse to comply, it’s a minor detour off the beaten path to have you killed. This is the correct way to handle indies, giving you any form of leverage is strategically bad both in the short and long term
 
Hello lovely people. Being right on the money with Ekko and T-Pein feels fantastic :moonwalk:Big Sis Nika aint that rusty afterall. Aside from threadmarkers I haven't read past page 105. I have reads on almost all the players and should come in with the cases within 24hours.

:choppawhat:I also did something... fufufufufu because I had to have my own fun. So I buffed @Ratchet :milaugh:
Do not disappoint me ._. :kata:Kill someone from this list:
TAC
Nana/Emi
Kagurashii
Yo Tan Wa
Mugen
Adam
Sallucion
MitchMatch

:myman:
Who did your mafia try and kill last night?
 
Hello lovely people. Being right on the money with Ekko and T-Pein feels fantastic :moonwalk:Big Sis Nika aint that rusty afterall. Aside from threadmarkers I haven't read past page 105. I have reads on almost all the players and should come in with the cases within 24hours.

:choppawhat:I also did something... fufufufufu because I had to have my own fun. So I buffed @Ratchet :milaugh:
Do not disappoint me ._. :kata:Kill someone from this list:
TAC
Nana/Emi
Kagurashii
Yo Tan Wa
Mugen
Adam
Sallucion
MitchMatch

:myman:
Well, at least something can happen now

Enough talk Ratchet time to walk the walk
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
TAC
Nana/Emi
Kagurashii
Yo Tan Wa
Mugen
Adam
Sallucion
MitchMatch

"TAC is probably Master Chief, I'm not too interested in that.
Emi - I tonally read as Town, sort of, but I did not think Nana was Town, and I did not like the paranoiac comment from Emi around lynching all Indies - for self-preservation purposes most of all. I will be okay with this shot.
Kagura, I read as Town.
Yo Tan Wa, also Town.
Muugen, Miller claim, Flowa says he checks out, I'm not inclined to shoot here.
Adam, he's probably Eevee or Samus, and I think he's Town.
Sallucion - Very inactive. I am definitely okay with this shot.
MitchMatch - I would be fine, but he's in the hurt and heal game, and it would be a shame to end it early for him.

As a result, and I will shoot in this list, my current shortlist is @Sallucion and @QueenEmilia. I'll decide which one to kill once they've been given a chance to respond. I don't want claims, just some reason to not shoot them over the other.

Is that fair?"​
 
town can extract all the potential benefit of said overlap by simply strongarming you, there’s no need to treat you as any kind of equal citizen, or worse, decision maker.

if you refuse to comply, it’s a minor detour off the beaten path to have you killed. This is the correct way to handle indies, giving you any form of leverage is strategically bad both in the short and long term
I commend you for trying to advocate for this position in the face of complete and utter futility
 
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