Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1053 Spoilers Discussion

[Julius]

100% agree

Marcos DF is broken and Jozu was strong enough to hurt Aokiji.Neither King or Queen has such a feat

Queen captured BM

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Nah, no way man. Zoro got to show off against Kaido, got ACoC and fully surpassed a YC1 this arc. There's no way he's out of the conversation right now.

He surpassed a commander yes, but Law and Kid defeated an Emperor. And this chapter seems to infer that the difference between a commander and an emperor or admiral is massive.

Zoro gave Kaido a good cut, but this was a Kaido who didn’t use Future Sight or his strongest techniques to counter it. ACoC is a good power up, but it’s just a power up.

Sorry but Kid and Laws awakening and onigashima fight put them in the lead. The 3 billion bounty was just the proof of it.

 

[okthxbb]

Why does everybody think a plant fruit would be like… GB growing sunflowers and not like, using the sun to build up massive amounts of energy, restricting opponents w roots and absorbing their energy, hitting enemies w extreme and debilitating poisons etc etc. Especially after we know how strong Mochi power is lmao. Thinking it would be weak bc “flowers are gay” or whatever just shows how dumb everybody on here is. It’s like you guys dont even read the same series.

Plant power has the potential to be one of the most diverse Logias in the series and in OP the potential for creativity has always been strong. I mean we’re talking about the same series where for 20+ years we expected Luffy to become the strongest person in the world with the rubber fruit.

edit: meant to quote a completely different post (still new to the forum lol) but im not gonna sift through the thread to find it and it can stand on its own

 

[MvLaw]

He himself is not competing with them, but I'm saying there's no reason he can't be in the conversation for being the 2nd-strongest Supernova while a lot of you Kid & Law fans believe he is beneath their level.

We believe this with good motives, law and kid doesnt even needed coc to beat kaidos rival, their dfs are overpowered, and their grow potential is bigger than zoros+ they got the better feats.

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

Absolutely imo. Marco vs King is a battle of attrition. Marco has not much that can actually hurt King while King has a ton of abilities that can hurt Marco.

In the beginning of the battle Marco looks better because his stamina is at 100% but the more he regenerates the faster he's starting to slow down. For King it's actually quite the easy matchup. He has too wear Marco down until his regen runs out.

Jozu really has only shown a single way of attacking, charging into you at full speed. Queen can use his Snake mode to crush Jozu, go invisible, shoot beams and use all the other vinsmoke abilities bar Reijus.

I'd bet on him in a battle.

I think Ryokugyu’s life steal/nutrient drain probably hard counters Marco unfortunately.

 

[Albino 👑]

Versatility =/= strength, Marco and Jozu have much better Devil Fruits than King and Queen, and of course King and Queen only have basic Haki while Marco and Jozu very likely have advanced Haki in at least one category.

At least King has his Lunarian shit and Queen has his cyborg tech, but is that enough to compensate for weaker Devil Fruits and Haki?

Kaido is a wannabe whitebeard
Yamato is a wannabe oden
King and queen wannabe Marco and jozu
Jack a wannabe vista

 

[Sir Yasheen]

I love how people literally don't care about Pluton reveal
Agenda Piece running this forum

Probably because we won’t see it in action until the final war unfortunately

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

I love how people literally don't care about Pluton reveal
Agenda Piece running this forum

I actually forgot that even happened

 

[Gol D. Roger]

I think Ryokugyu’s life steal/nutrient drain probably hard counters Marco unfortunately.

Almost no defense besides maybe Haki even works against it.

 

[Ballel]

Thinking it would be weak bc “flowers are gay” or whatever just shows how dumb everybody on here is.

Never saw this argument here tbh

 

[MarineHQ]

I love how people literally don't care about Pluton reveal
Agenda Piece running this forum

Damn i forgot about Pluton lol. Who needs that shit when you can have King as a crew member

 

[Rootbeer]

I love how people literally don't care about Pluton reveal
Agenda Piece running this forum

Dude Momo ruined Uranus.. Ancient Weapons are like Dragon all hype no show..

 

[Ballel]

Dude Momo ruined Uranus.. Ancient Weapons are like Dragon all hype no show..

Uranus? Why Momo?

 

[BakiDou]

I love how people literally don't care about Pluton reveal
Agenda Piece running this forum

But gb is way stronger than king and queen, this is what truly matters.

 

[Black Lord Sanji]

“King>katakuri”

 

[Rootbeer]

I think Ryokugyu’s life steal/nutrient drain probably hard counters Marco unfortunately.

Caribou for storing bodies..

 

[Sentry22]

Pluton=Momo
There you go, mystery solved. Your welcome.

 

[Chrono]

Absolutely imo. Marco vs King is a battle of attrition. Marco has not much that can actually hurt King while King has a ton of abilities that can hurt Marco.

In the beginning of the battle Marco looks better because his stamina is at 100% but the more he regenerates the faster he's starting to slow down. For King it's actually quite the easy matchup. He has too wear Marco down until his regen runs out.

Jozu really has only shown a single way of attacking, charging into you at full speed. Queen can use his Snake mode to crush Jozu, go invisible, shoot beams and use all the other vinsmoke abilities bar Reijus.

I'd bet on him in a battle.

Yh but what happens if Marco starts the match knowing King's speed mode weakness ?

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

Almost no defense besides maybe Haki even works against it.

If he can do it at any range then it’s busted. Like a root comes up and grabs your foot and that’s GG

 

[MarineHQ]

Yh but what happens if Marco starts the match knowing King's speed mode weakness ?

Not much. Marco doesn't have Zoro's AP and lethality.