Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1053 Spoilers Discussion

[Finalbeta]

Rivarly SELLS. Oda is good buisnessman

So petty

He is not my mangaka

I might really drop the series forever once ZKK is officially 100% dead

The admirals hype will also not last so long, they will look good at the final war but still lose hype in the long run

 

[Albino 👑]

Then we need lunarian Sanji kicking some green ass

I personally as in me personally
I dont support black flace so ima have to say no to black face sanji
Thats me tho

 

[IIskandar1997]

I stil dont think any of the regular admirals can defeat a Yonko with 100% certainty (but its one hell of a fight). My main thing is that, if your a regular admiral can do that to 2 Yonk commanders, then what does that say about the fleet admiral?

 

[Pattoucco]

This confirms Kidd and Law >> Zoro
How?

Well, let's assume Big Mom is ≈ Greenbull

Greenbull easily shotted King and Queen

Zoro had hard time against King.

Law and Kid defeated someone on Greenbull's League together, while Greenbull easily defeated King and Queen.

Law and Kid together >=< Greenbull >>> King and Queen together

Zoro considers Queen a strong opponent since he didn't choice between him and King when he had to reach rooftop.

For Law and Kid to defeat Big Mom Means that they are individually tiers above King and Queen which puts them above Zoro, since Zoro Is at best only One tier above King.

Thank you Boss. We need more people like you

 

[Finalbeta]

FYI I am an orthopedic surgeon

I really wonder how you got so far, maybe you are much different IRL than in here 🧐

 

[Tejas]

Papalino Kizaru should have gone

To Udon as a prisoner

 

[Pattoucco]

So petty

He is not my mangaka

I might really drop the series forever once ZKK is officially 100% dead

The admirals hype will also not last so long, they will look good at the final war but still lose hype in the long run

Imagine Admirals will lost before the final war lmao

 

[Finalbeta]

To Udon as a prisoner

As a justicer

 

[centurion]

Beasts Pirates if they had a Discord Server:

 

[Finalbeta]

Imagine Admirals will lost before the final war lmao

The SHs will beat them there

It's already written in the stars I bet

They will give them a tough fight but then still perish and be shadowed by Teach who will come later

 

[Hamlette]

How is that an issue?
I am pointing out all the facts and not simply glossing over them to push some agenda.
What exactly am I making excuses for? My point is very quite clear - An Admiral is far above commanders and King and Queen are nerfed. What is the issue of simply stating these facts, especially when they are not even using their abilities.

If they were at full power, they would've been able to hold out longer.

But if the message is ultimately the same, it's unnecessary. Like why stress on a point that has no bearing upon what Oda is attempting to do here. Whether they were at a 100 or at 60 they were going to be off screened and GB would look just as fresh; like if a level 100 destroyed 2 level 10s you wouldn't say "oh but they weren't at 100 percent hp". The problem is with people who underestimated the Admirals having to deal with the reality of how powerful they are in the most jarring way, like Oda dispelled all the bullshit surrounding them in 2 panels and a single line of dialogue. The people trying to water down this accomplishment are the same people who thought a Yonko trounces an Admiral or even multiple, while the neutral crowd accepted this feat and moved on.

 

[Finalbeta]

All of these dudes like Finalbeta, Lee and Kinyagi who don't even read the series but are invested in the PLs of the characters are so strange.

And come up with better takes than many yonkers:cheers:

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

Who said there wasn't a confrontation? The confrontation happened with the huge explosion we saw which we know was from Greenbull. There was no abilities used from the other side. King is also now getting stabbed in base.

1) We don’t know since there’s no indication the explosion is the whole fight
And
2) it’s likely not because Aramaki’s dialogue implies they attacked him first

Didn't know King only received a paper cut in his fight lol.

I’m still waiting for you to show me Queen’s bandages.

They were in such full health that they decided to take on an Admiral in base without their abilities

1) Queen reverts to his base whenever he gets folded as we’ve seen twice
2) King’s strongest form is his base

 

[Sentinel]

How is that an issue?
I am pointing out all the facts and not simply glossing over them to push some agenda.
What exactly am I making excuses for? My point is very quite clear - An Admiral is far above commanders and King and Queen are nerfed. What is the issue of simply stating these facts, especially when they are not even using their abilities.

If they were at full power, they would've been able to hold out longer.

Well, tell me, you're the one making an issue outta it, lol.
First of all, I have no agendas here, Idc for Yonko vs Admiral debates or anything similar but this chapter introduced Greenbull just walking over Kaido's strongest executives with no issues. And sorry Geo but those are not facts, you pointing at their bandages and claiming how they're heavily nerfed is pure speculation. I even pointed out the alliance side who have bandages but are super fine regardless. Honestly, you're just nitpicking, are you?
You answered your own question with the following sentence. Reasoning that their one-sided defeat was due to being heavily nerfed (no solid arguments for it) undermines what Oda started to portray with this moment in the first place. I don't need to see Queen using Germa powers on amnesia Big Mom to know that he still gets effortlessly beaten by her regardless. Thus, I don't need to see xyz ability from King or Queen to know how they would fare against the same opponent who destroyed them this chapter, because it would hardly make a difference.

So they would just stall their inevitable defeat for a bit longer but how does it change the result what we've ultimately seen in the recent chapter?

 

[Pattoucco]

The SHs will beat them there

It's already written in the stars I bet

They will give them a tough fight but then still perish and be shadowed by Teach who will come later

Teach is before the final war, i think Luffy will fight World Gouvernement instead(no all Marines)

 

[Tejas]

As a justicer

As a slave

 

[Finalbeta]

This will be a long ass month for admiral tards to get rekt

 

[Ballel]

Lee and Kinyagi who don't even read the series but are invested in the PLs of the characters are so strange

@lee33 @AdmiralKinyagi you don't read the manga??

 

[Captain Luffy]

Luffy treating Kidd as kid

Kidd: what if i kill you now
Luffy: hold my sake

 

[Zolo]

The manga will get better if that happens.

It would have gotten better if Oda confirmed thing allready, but he enjoys suffering of zorobois.... by the way, where are they now?