Questions & Mysteries Is Greenbull son of Shimotsuki Ushimaru

#1
Is greenbull son of Ushimaru?
I have this feeling that the history of the shimotsuki is not finished, in addition to the still unknown importance of Zoro's lineage (due to his resemblance to the shimotsuki)
It always seemed to me that Usumaru being Zoro's father did not make sense, since although they share similar profiles, in terms of their facial features they are very different, unlike GreenBull who is a carbon copy on the nose, eyebrows and use of ¿cigar? ?

This would explain why GreenBull is a swordsman (apparently one with a black sword), he agrees with the age and the hints that Oda has left with the color green, the bulls and the shimotsuki.

Now, I don't mean that GreenBull has lived in Wano, he would believe that he was evacuated as an infant (a la superman) so he doesn't remember or is interested in Wano.
Shimotsuki Ushimaru was given too much importance to die without leaving any legacy.



"The reason is, Ryokugyu's arrival to Wano was not on the orders of Sakazuki or Gorosei, but probably for personal reasons.
Ryokugyu who is thought to be a samurai is thought to have come from Wano.
He is likely related to the Shimotsuki family, especially Ushimaru.
Shimotsuki Ushimaru was already declared dead during the fight against Kaido. However, at the same age as Kozuki Oden's father, especially as a daimyo, he is suspected of having children.
There are allegations that the child is Admiral Ryokugyu, this theory seems to be supported by several clues. First, the scene of Ushimaru with Onimaru when the daimyo wears a robe with a green bull on the back.
In addition, Ushi has the meaning of bull, which seems to confirm this assumption.
Oda Sensei in SBS volume 101 had said that he wanted to describe the descendants of Shimotsuki Ushimaru.
Those words add to the belief that it is Ryokugyu who is the son of Ushimaru, plus how Oda Sensei makes this character very mysterious.
The surprising thing is that Oda Sensei has indeed denied the suspicion that Ushimaru is the father of Roronoa Zoro.
But he also said our marumo is very similar to the ringo daimyo. That statement seems to say that even though Zoro is not Ushimaru's son, he is indeed a descendant of Shimotsuki. This gave rise to the theory that Zoro was the son of Ryokugyu. The appearance of the three of them is almost the same, first, Zoro who didn't eat for 9 days because he was detained by the Marines. Then Ryokugyu claimed not to eat for several years, and in chapter 1024, Ushimaru didn't eat because he was detained by Kaido. Ushimaru also mentions that a samurai doesn't need to eat, while another similarity between Ryokugyu and Zoro is that they are both fed by beautiful women."
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#2
Is greenbull son of Ushimaru?
I have this feeling that the history of the shimotsuki is not finished, in addition to the still unknown importance of Zoro's lineage (due to his resemblance to the shimotsuki)
It always seemed to me that Usumaru being Zoro's father did not make sense, since although they share similar profiles, in terms of their facial features they are very different, unlike GreenBull who is a carbon copy on the nose, eyebrows and use of ¿cigar? ?

This would explain why GreenBull is a swordsman (apparently one with a black sword), he agrees with the age and the hints that Oda has left with the color green, the bulls and the shimotsuki.

Now, I don't mean that GreenBull has lived in Wano, he would believe that he was evacuated as an infant (a la superman) so he doesn't remember or is interested in Wano.
Shimotsuki Ushimaru was given too much importance to die without leaving any legacy.

You got me with the nose. :saden:
I think Ushimaru had a daughter that died and GB was her lover.

 
#9
Yh possible....but I have a feeling Oda wont reveal it. Its giving me Perospero/Struesen vibes.
I don't know, in case if he is a relative of some shuimotsuki I would like him to be Zoro's cousin or something like that (since it has already been confirmed that Zoro is not Ushimaro's son but he can still belong to the Shimotsuki family)
 
#10
I don't know, in case if he is a relative of some shuimotsuki I would like him to be Zoro's cousin or something like that (since it has already been confirmed that Zoro is not Ushimaro's son but he can still belong to the Shimotsuki family)
Possible. But either way I dont think it'll ever be important of the plot of OP.
 
#14
Possible. But either way I dont think it'll ever be important of the plot of OP.
Actually I see it as necessary for the plot:kuzanshut:

It is the only logical way out to avoid direct conflict with GreenBull, at least momentarily since he himself could "forgive" the mugis for the help provided (this after a clash and pertinent revelations) It could also establish a link/rivalry between Zoro and GreenBull, since Zoro currently does not have a defined Admiral (don't give me that shit about Fuji, the guy is an ally).

I see it like a "So you are also a shimotsuki cousin, we will see who is the one that carries the blood of our ancestor Ryuma" :steef:
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Actually I see it as necessary for the plot:kuzanshut:

It is the only logical way out to avoid direct conflict with GreenBull, at least momentarily since he himself could "forgive" the mugis for the help provided (this after a clash and pertinent revelations) It could also establish a link/rivalry between Zoro and GreenBull, since Zoro currently does not have a defined Admiral (don't give me that shit about Fuji, the guy is an ally).
I don't see GreenBull ignoring the conflict for another reason and I also don't see GreenBull being matched since it would kill their Hype, but the mugis can't lose here, we have to move forward
I see it like a "So you are also a shimotsuki cousin, we will see who is the one that carries the blood of our ancestor Ryuma" :steef:
 
#20
"The reason is, Ryokugyu's arrival to Wano was not on the orders of Sakazuki or Gorosei, but probably for personal reasons. Ryokugyu who is thought to be a samurai is thought to have come from Wano. He is likely related to the Shimotsuki family, especially Ushimaru. Shimotsuki Ushimaru was already declared dead during the fight against Kaido. However, at the same age as Kozuki Oden's father, especially as a daimyo, he is suspected of having children. There are allegations that the child is Admiral Ryokugyu, this theory seems to be supported by several clues. First, the scene of Ushimaru with Onimaru when the daimyo wears a robe with a green bull on the back.
In addition, Ushi has the meaning of bull, which seems to confirm this assumption. Oda Sensei in SBS volume 101 had said that he wanted to describe the descendants of Shimotsuki Ushimaru. Those words add to the belief that it is Ryokugyu who is the son of Ushimaru, plus how Oda Sensei makes this character very mysterious. The surprising thing is that Oda Sensei has indeed denied the suspicion that Ushimaru is the father of Roronoa Zoro. But he also said our marumo is very similar to the ringo daimyo. That statement seems to say that even though Zoro is not Ushimaru's son, he is indeed a descendant of Shimotsuki. This gave rise to the theory that Zoro was the son of Ryokugyu. The appearance of the three of them is almost the same, first, Zoro who didn't eat for 9 days because he was detained by the Marines. Then Ryokugyu claimed not to eat for several years, and in chapter 1024, Ushimaru didn't eat because he was detained by Kaido. Ushimaru also mentions that a samurai doesn't need to eat, while another similarity between Ryokugyu and Zoro is that they are both fed by beautiful women."
This is from HitLava.com
 
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