[FNZ] Role Madness Breaking Bad Role Madness

[Lindltaylor]

I think you should read the rest of my posts. I am not saying "I won't play here", I'm saying "I'm going to go back to lurking games for the first few cycles because the playerbase do not allow me to play Mafia here", and I will find somewhere else to play games I can get more enjoyment from.

I don't want to linger on this topic too long so this will be my last post on this. What makes you think lurking will not draw attention to you either? Maybe with your old playstyle it could have been done - post wallies at regular intervals - but none of them here are used to it.

If the enjoyment is lost, then by all means, I won't force you to not change your playstyle, but I do think you may be overblowing the situation.

>plays in a scummy way
>gets called our for it
>is mad when needs to claim

Like what the shit. Just accept you didnt perform as good and move on

On top if it, how do criminals fit town in this scenario?

Hey Adam. What are your current reads and what are your thoughts on the Hime wagon?

 

[Lindltaylor]

it seemed a bit opportunistic, esp flowa's and nana's by that exchange
(afaik, zolo always plays that way so thats y im not focusing on him atm)

I did notice @Nana 's vote on you coming on too fast. I don't think I saw an explanation for it either.

@Nana what's your exact reason for voting Hime here? Also what were your reads prior to that and right now?

 

[Flower]

This is completely uncalled for? I don't know what you want here. Players don't always see things from our perspective. Either we're bad at expressing them, or we're not.

I don't know why you're getting all emotional here, but everyone goes through this and they take it on the chin, dust off, and move on. Anyway, I hope you do stay, but this sort of self-pity isn't needed tbh.

I mean, Ratchet goes through this kind of thing pretty much every game. It's just people aren't even reading.


For example, I'd like you to go through this ISO I made of Gram's posts and tell me where I said anything wrong there (you need to jump to that post to see the quotes I quoted):

A greeting.

No reasons for his read given.




Setup talk.

Question which leads to nowhere.

Just thoughts on Cal.

Buddying Fuji.

Random anti fluff post.

Just question marks.

Again a question which he failed to take anywhere.



Weird comments.

Again, just asking things without further inquiry.

Vote with a weak reasoning.

Asking for other people‘s agreement, comes across as sheepy.

Again just Cal.


Cal again.

Conclusion:

What Gram did in a nutshell was just asking for other people‘s approval regarding his votes and telling people Cal was Town. The following posts were his convo with SK. So yes, he factually didn‘t provide any clear reads and was just sheeping.

 

[Lindltaylor]

I mean, Ratchet goes through this kind of thing pretty much every game. It's just people aren't even reading.


For example, I'd like you to go through this ISO I made of Gram's posts and tell me where I said anything wrong there (you need to jump to that post to see the quotes I quoted):

Will do so thanks.

 

[Ratchet]

I don't want to linger on this topic too long so this will be my last post on this. What makes you think lurking will not draw attention to you either? Maybe with your old playstyle it could have been done - post wallies at regular intervals - but none of them here are used to it.

If the enjoyment is lost, then by all means, I won't force you to not change your playstyle, but I do think you may be overblowing the situation.

My point is I'm being held to a standard where players are actively looking to find reasons to say I'm scum, and not evaluating me on the basis of my whole play. This isn't everyone, but it's enough. This has happened in *all* of my recent town games. I've deliberately approached this game to draw as much out of players as I can, which is evidently pro-town by nature, and it matters not a jot. I'm out of ideas, so lurking is all I have.

 

[hime]

Unvote anyway

sry about the mini ragequit moment

id not be happy if another townie did that so its not fair of me to behave that way either, my apologies

 

[Charlie]

Still reading. How Ratchet and Flower are leading wagons? Like for real.

inb4 fake reveal
why does badger have a WU reveal anyway
this isnt a strong claim. doesn't qualify as MC

the WU is real
badger possibly fake claim
i dont have a reason to town read flowa

If WU is real why would claim be fake. It says her role is badger. Not that her fake role is badger. If IT was her fake role, WU overall would be fake.

scum side of null
flowa
tpein
charlie
melkor/dofla
prof
nana

scum
ratchet

4 put of 7 i'm pretty sure are town .-.

 

[Ratchet]

Unvote anyway

sry about the mini ragequit moment

id not be happy if another townie did that so its not fair of me to behave that way either, my apologies

I can compromise on you with an Ekko wagon, btw.

 

[Adam 🍎]

Hey Adam. What are your current reads and what are your thoughts on the Hime wagon?

Im currently at work so i am mostly blind reading.

However i do think it is worth to note that to every wagon will be scum riding it.

Ratchet and flower shouldbt be an exception here.

IMO scum in this situation would be someone who keeps the fire going rather than the one who started it

And if we say Ekko and Me are the ones who started the fire then hime abd few others are def ones who fall into scum range

As for Ratchet and flower themselves, i just cant shake the feelibg of the beibg scummy only to fall back on claims, especually flower and her lucky innocent child considering she wss prime sus

 

[Flower]

Still reading. How Ratchet and Flower are leading wagons? Like for real.

I mean, I hope it's just scum driving our wagons.

 

[hime]

I can compromise on you with an Ekko wagon, btw.

y do u scum read ekko?

also thoughts on nana?

 

[Flower]

@Charlie do you have a read list ?

 

[Ratchet]

y do u scum read ekko?

also thoughts on nana?

Ekko has expressed a level of certainty around his conclusion that I don't think his evidence plausibly leads him to. In other words he's presenting himself as more confident than he should be. This is scummy because it suggests his thought process as stated does not match up with his arguments.

Nana I think is town. I had a back and forth with her, she came across pretty townie in that.

 

[Ratchet]

Also wouldn't mind an Ultra lynch here either. In fact

Vote: Ultra

 

[Sallucion]

Also wouldn't mind an Ultra lynch here either. In fact

Vote: Ultra

I was just checking his posts, and Idk what to say about them lol.
The random vote on you is super weird

 

[Ratchet]

I was just checking his posts, and Idk what to say about them lol.
The random vote on you is super weird

His vote wasn't random, but I thought he came across as very insincere.

 

[Peroroncino]

Oh wow a lot has happened while i was sleeping

 

[Peroroncino]

Why is everyone voting hime?

 

[Flower]

Also wouldn't mind an Ultra lynch here either. In fact

Vote: Ultra

Who are your top scum reads rn?

 

[Ratchet]

Who are your top scum reads rn?

Ultra - explained
Hime - I've liked her more recent posts, but I still think her conclusion that my read on you is TMI is super super lazy
Ekko - explained

Am liking Drago less and less too.