A break for Night Lynch Deciders after N1?

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    Votes: 2 6.9%
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    Votes: 11 37.9%
  • Are you enjoying the Game?

    Votes: 7 24.1%
  • Yay

    Votes: 8 27.6%
  • Nay

    Votes: 1 3.4%

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Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
Yes. @Doddsy should be able to back this up so I don't need to fish out receipts but I've seen him legit post role PM as town bc he was so pissed off at what he perceived to be idiotic town play

Don't recall him ever doing throwing in the towel as scum
I'm willing to accept this for now, by the way. Not only can I relate, but I see little reason for this to not be true.
 
No, I said this to you earlier. He just receives the message, I'm specifically told I can't include anything about my role. However -
Charlie is Skylar
Unless I knew this beforehand, my ability must directly message Skylar
From flavour then, my understanding is it makes sense for this ability to come from my character.
My character should belong to the town.

It's really not hard.
I mean it certainly could be the case, but without confirmation you are Marie there's still every chance the message came from someone else.

Yes. @Doddsy should be able to back this up so I don't need to fish out receipts but I've seen him legit post role PM as town bc he was so pissed off at what he perceived to be idiotic town play

Don't recall him ever doing throwing in the towel as scum
This is true, although I do believe he did it as sk once when we was being voted day 1
 

Kagu Nyan

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What scummy things have I done?

Do you really think so or is it just that you picked up the narrative in the thread that I was doing scummy things and you don‘t even know what I have done?

Because here is all that I‘ve done:

Called out Ultra for being weak af, which, as @Lindltaylor also noted, is a valid reason to scum read him.
Called out Gram for accusing me of sth he did himself all game, namely sheeping players. And yes, he did it first. You have the chronological order in the thread to see.
Buddied Ratchet as I‘ve done in every game as Town this year.

I think saying I did scummy things is just insincere at this point given almost everyone should know better as all of those things are within my Town play and it makes people look like they‘re just trying to save face now by continuing with that baseless push because they don‘t want to admit they‘re wrong or they are afraid of getting pushed for it.

What @Charlie does is figuring this out now.
To note a few things which comes right off my mind are:

1. first you were sus of Ekko but you still your shifted to Ultra pretty quickly. I haven’t read your interactions with Gram so I can’t comment on that yet but I’ll review it soon.

2. You pretended as if you have a vanilla role but then you had a role which turns out - you can announce publicly. You are already milking the hell outta this ability to prove your innocence.

3. Your town reads are a mess. Whoever remotely expresses any sympathy, you town read them instantly.

4. why did you buddy with ratchet when he reaction tested you cuz you sounded pretty annoyed with him at first.

5. I can see that you are pissed at Ultra then why didn’t you stay true to your feelings and keep your vote on him the entire time? And what have you done to get him lynched cuz last VC I saw most votes stacked against you and Ratchet.
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
I mean it certainly could be the case, but without confirmation you are Marie there's still every chance the message came from someone else.
You're being disingenuous here. If Charlie is Town, and Skylar, then for me to be scum and lying about my rope being able to directly message Skylar, one of two things must have happened -

1 - I role copped Charlie, saw he was Skylar, then sent a message via any role to argue it came from me. We can dismiss this already. Why? Because Charlie claimed to be immune to all investigations.

2 - I happened to guess Charlie was Skylar.

If you concede both, then it stands that my role must have some way to message Skylar specifically. I argue it's because my role is her sister. There may or may not be other options for this, but no one has put any forth.

I am not arguing I am confirmed Town. However, the evidence is strong enough in my favour to prompt the benefit of the doubt - the argument against me is certainly not strong enough to be of comparable persuasiveness here.

This then calls into question your tunneling. Because you should see this new information and begin to consider alternatives to your initial read, and your lack of ability to do so suggests an unwillingness to accept new evidence that runs contrary to your opinion. Can you explain to me why that me be?
 
I mean it certainly could be the case, but without confirmation you are Marie there's still every chance the message came from someone else.


This is true, although I do believe he did it as sk once when we was being voted day 1
Sure but I think I'm more banking on the fact he isn't on a scum team in my labeling of that slot as town
 
To note a few things which comes right off my mind are:

1. first you were sus of Ekko but you still your shifted to Ultra pretty quickly. I haven’t read your interactions with Gram so I can’t comment on that yet but I’ll review it soon.

2. You pretended as if you have a vanilla role but then you had a role which turns out - you can announce publicly. You are already milking the hell outta this ability to prove your innocence.

3. Your town reads are a mess. Whoever remotely expresses any sympathy, you town read them instantly.

4. why did you buddy with ratchet when he reaction tested you cuz you sounded pretty annoyed with him at first.

5. I can see that you are pissed at Ultra then why didn’t you stay true to your feelings and keep your vote on him the entire time? And what have you done to get him lynched cuz last VC I saw most votes stacked against you and Ratchet.
1. I have multiple scum reads. Who of them goes first doesn‘t matter that much.

2. I just didn‘t get abilities, so I assumed I was Vanilla for now. The WU reveal was an active ability. I have no idea how it‘s convenient when it‘s just what my role does.

3. Not even remotely true. If I did that, then I wouldn‘t have put Cal and previously Drago there who were actively pushing me.

4. I just developed a Town read on him. It‘s not that deep.

5. I don‘t decide who other people vote. All I can do is bring him up again and again and place my own vote on him. If people aren‘t reading or are still voting me and Ratchet, that‘s not on me. The hell is that comment?
 
You are not alone, that post of his reeks of fakeness, I been getting the vibes that his game solving hasn't been genuine tbh and seeing his fake frustration from ratchet and ekko solidified my gut feeling toward him.
I've actually not hates his more recent posts up to where I left off last night. Solving has seemed genuine

Struggling to make him a solid town after the previous post but yeah about where I'm at

Gonna start reading through as the morning progresses

How long do we have
 
1. I have multiple scum reads. Who of them goes first doesn‘t matter that much.

2. I just didn‘t get abilities, so I assumed I was Vanilla for now. The WU reveal was an active ability. I have no idea how it‘s convenient when it‘s just what my role does.

3. Not even remotely true. If I did that, then I wouldn‘t have put Cal and previously Drago there who were actively pushing me.

4. I just developed a Town read on him. It‘s not that deep.

5. I don‘t decide who other people vote. All I can do is bring him up again and again and place my own vote on him. If people aren‘t reading or are still voting me and Ratchet, that‘s not on me. The hell is that comment?
Can confirm I have not shown flower much in the way of sympathy although my scum read of her has very much wavered based purely on angleshooting which has been hard to ignore
 

Kagu Nyan

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Charlie said investigations fail on him. Skyler doesn’t seem to be a kind of character to have such a passive. She even got caught while she was cheating with Ted. Now he’s outted himself as Skyler out of the blue. Did he need to confirm Ratchet?

I think Ratchet’s claim in itself was quite believable and we could have waited if someone did indeed counter claim him. Marie is a must be town role in this set up.
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
Charlie said investigations fail on him. Skyler doesn’t seem to be a kind of character to have such a passive. She even got caught while she was cheating with Ted. Now he’s outted himself as Skyler out of the blue. Did he need to confirm Ratchet?

I think Ratchet’s claim in itself was quite believable and we could have waited if someone did indeed counter claim him. Marie is a must be town role in this set up.
Oh, let me be clear what happened. I can send Skylar one message. I sent "post >mfw shiggy doggy sis". Charlie, not knowing who this came from, posted this, which immediately confirmed to me that he was Skylar. Given that I made my claim of being able to message specifically Skylar before any of this, it stands then - Charles is Skylar.
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
Oh, let me be clear what happened. I can send Skylar one message. I sent "post >mfw shiggy diggy sis". Charlie, not knowing who this came from, posted this, which immediately confirmed to me that he was Skylar. Given that I made my claim of being able to message specifically Skylar before any of this, it stands then - Charles is Skylar.
 
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