Current Events How low does Kizaru stock go if he fights Sanji ?

Chrono

Chrono

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We know if Sanji fights Greenbull, people will just easily claim Aramaki is the weakest Admiral. If thats not enough, they'll use the out of context Reverie scene for "proof".

However Kizaru is interesting. We have Oda soft confirming Kizaru > Aokiji, and a lot of fans even speculating Kizaru might beat Akainu. Its also strongly believed that the strongest current Admiral is Kizaru ( regardless if the others push him to extreme extreme diff).

But could this all change if he fights Sanji ? I mean he had to cheat against Marco. He couldnt insta neg Pre Timeskip Hawkins. Pre timeskip Apoo could cut him in half.

Could he end up far weaker than Fuji or Ryou perhaps and a tier below him. Perhaps even a low diff for Fuji/Ryou maybe suitable ?
 
Hamlette

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If he fights Ryo, then he is a pussy who wouldn't fight a blind dude and has lame plant powers.
If he fights Kizaru, then he fought a guy who got "blitzed" by pre-skip Apoo and would've "lost" to old Ray.
If he fights Fuji, then Fuji is the least impressive Admiral who was put in bandages by fodder.

But they're attempting to sell us on the idea that he won't fight one at all, which they know deep down is false, but hey......they have a couple more years of pretending before they have to start the downplay wars.
 
Chrono

Chrono

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SkySanji said:
Oda never confirmed or even implied that Kizaru > Aokiji, you're just misintepreting the SBS statement
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D: Are Kizaru and Akainu stronger even than Aokiji? P.N. Osumansan

O: Hahh, hahh... Sorry for the late introduction. Hello. I'm the author, who got his Balls Flattened by a Reader... you can call me Balltender. But who cares! Here's a question...YIKES!! What the hell is THIS?! Kizaru?! Get outta here! I'm gonna have nightmares! Sorry P.N. Osumansan, Kizaru's already appeared! He'll show up in the next volume. Actually, you're not that far off, though.

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Theres literally no other way of seeing this lmao. The reader only asked one question, and Oda said hes not far off. Aokiji being the weakest of the C3 was not a far off idea....I dont know you can spin this lol.
 
SkySanji

SkySanji

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Chrono said:
D: Are Kizaru and Akainu stronger even than Aokiji? P.N. Osumansan

O: Hahh, hahh... Sorry for the late introduction. Hello. I'm the author, who got his Balls Flattened by a Reader... you can call me Balltender. But who cares! Here's a question...YIKES!! What the hell is THIS?! Kizaru?! Get outta here! I'm gonna have nightmares! Sorry P.N. Osumansan, Kizaru's already appeared! He'll show up in the next volume. Actually, you're not that far off, though.

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Theres literally no other way of seeing this lmao. The reader only asked one question, and Oda said hes not far off. Aokiji being the weakest of the C3 was not a far off idea....I dont know you can spin this lol.
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Post the actual SBS and not the text alone

"You're not that far off though" is referring to the drawing the fan sent in of what they thought Kizaru looked like on the right
:seriously:
 
Franosuke

Franosuke

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Chrono said:
D: Are Kizaru and Akainu stronger even than Aokiji? P.N. Osumansan

O: Hahh, hahh... Sorry for the late introduction. Hello. I'm the author, who got his Balls Flattened by a Reader... you can call me Balltender. But who cares! Here's a question...YIKES!! What the hell is THIS?! Kizaru?! Get outta here! I'm gonna have nightmares! Sorry P.N. Osumansan, Kizaru's already appeared! He'll show up in the next volume. Actually, you're not that far off, though.

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Theres literally no other way of seeing this lmao. The reader only asked one question, and Oda said hes not far off. Aokiji being the weakest of the C3 was not a far off idea....I dont know you can spin this lol.
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"Not that far off" doesn't mean he's entirely correct. In fact, it implies that there's actually something he wasn't correct about. Since we already know that Akainu is slightly stronger than Aokiji, it could be that Oda meant he was correct about the Akainu part but incorrect about the Kizaru part.
 
Chrono

Chrono

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SkySanji said:
Post the actual SBS and not the text alone

"You're not that far off though" is referring to the drawing the fan sent in of what they thought Kizaru looked like on the right
:seriously:
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Oda just called his picture awful and said "get outta here" thinking its Kizaru. Plus are we meant to assume he completely didnt acknowledge the question ?

But yh I guess it could mean the pic...I never saw that part of the question...
 
Doggo

Doggo

Talent is something you make bloom.
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Hamlette said:
If he fights Ryo, then he is a pussy who wouldn't fight a blind dude and has lame plant powers.
If he fights Kizaru, then he fought a guy who got "blitzed" by pre-skip Apoo and would've "lost" to old Ray.
If he fights Fuji, then Fuji is the least impressive Admiral who was put in bandages by fodder.

But they're attempting to sell us on the idea that he won't fight one at all, which they know deep down is false, but hey......they have a couple more years of pretending before they have to start the downplay wars.
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"Sanji is not fighting a Calamity 1v1. He's team tagging Queen with Drake".:sanjismug:
"M3 is dead. Character X is finally breaking it".:sanjismug:
"Muh adv Coc only very strongest":sanjismug:

Every day a new bs rises.:sanjismug:
The only difference is that now we've got the perfect emoji to respond to these delusions.:sanjismug:
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Btw, before GB got properly introduced, people were ALREADY dissing him saying "but kizaru fights right hands therefore fights zoro. original trio>>>>fodders that got bandaged by revo fodders" etc.

I just amuse myself by looking at how fast some "hot takes" change.
:sanjismug:
 
Topi Jerami

Topi Jerami

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If anything, if Luffy fights Akainu, Zoro fights Kizaru, Sanji fights Green Bull and whatever happened to Fujitora.
Then people will claim "Kizaru is closer to Fuji/Green Bull than to Akainu" despite constant saying of "C3 is built different" for years.

Have happened before with people denying King closer to Kaido just because he fought Zoro.
 
Doggo

Doggo

Talent is something you make bloom.
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#12
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Topi Jerami said:
If anything, if Luffy fights Akainu, Zoro fights Kizaru, Sanji fights Green Bull and whatever happened to Fujitora.
Then people will claim "Kizaru is closer to Fuji/Green Bull than to Akainu" despite constant saying of "C3 is built different" for years.

Have happened before with people denying King closer to Kaido just because he fought Zoro.
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Ah yes...
The Luffy>>>>>>rest followed by the Luffy and Zoro>>>>>rest, etc.
Two groups that deserve each other.
Love to see the trouble in paradise.
:sanjismug:
 
Gear5PhoenixMan

Gear5PhoenixMan

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BornInAbyss said:
It doesn’t get low for kizaru. Sanji stock rises instead. People just like to downplay sanji for no reason and sometimes its just making me sick. I get it sanji is the 3rd strongest SH but still thats an major achievment man.
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No o
Doggo said:
"Sanji is not fighting a Calamity 1v1. He's team tagging Queen with Drake".:sanjismug:
"M3 is dead. Character X is finally breaking it".:sanjismug:
"Muh adv Coc only very strongest":sanjismug:

Every day a new bs rises.:sanjismug:
The only difference is that now we've got the perfect emoji to respond to these delusions.:sanjismug:
Post automatically merged:

Btw, before GB got properly introduced, people were ALREADY dissing him saying "but kizaru fights right hands therefore fights zoro. original trio>>>>fodders that got bandaged by revo fodders" etc.

I just amuse myself by looking at how fast some "hot takes" change.
:sanjismug:
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Just because you see 1 Zoro tard say all of this doesn't mean the majority believes it...Sanji is a strawhat he's obviously winning.

People expected the commanders to be Katakuri level that's the only reason he was downplayed.
 
Doggo

Doggo

Talent is something you make bloom.
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Gear5PhoenixMan said:
No o


Just because you see 1 Zoro tard say all of this doesn't mean the majority believes it...Sanji is a strawhat he's obviously winning.

People expected the commanders to be Katakuri level that's the only reason he was downplayed.
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But the commanders ARE Katakuri level.
I've joked about people creating some retarded "top tier mid tier low tier" garbage and that they would eventually create some "top top tier, mid top tier low top tier" to keep the BS rolling.

Guess what, it's happening already.

Oda doesn't give two thoughts about powerscaling in this story, but somehow, a bunch of people like to waste their time with it.
One Piece currently has A LOT of problems, powerscaling is NOT one of them because it never was a thing to begin with.
:sanjismug:
 
Galahad

Galahad

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Chrono said:
We know if Sanji fights Greenbull, people will just easily claim Aramaki is the weakest Admiral. If thats not enough, they'll use the out of context Reverie scene for "proof".

However Kizaru is interesting. We have Oda soft confirming Kizaru > Aokiji, and a lot of fans even speculating Kizaru might beat Akainu. Its also strongly believed that the strongest current Admiral is Kizaru ( regardless if the others push him to extreme extreme diff).

But could this all change if he fights Sanji ? I mean he had to cheat against Marco. He couldnt insta neg Pre Timeskip Hawkins. Pre timeskip Apoo could cut him in half.

Could he end up far weaker than Fuji or Ryou perhaps and a tier below him. Perhaps even a low diff for Fuji/Ryou maybe suitable ?
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I have to say that you are a crack

You're throwing shit like the one who doesn't want the thing to Green Bull, who is emerging as Zoro's rival if he has a Kokuto and at the same time you praise Kizaru who is Sanji's most likely rival.

After 10 days fighting, we can say that Akainu and Kuzan are at the same level and from the SBS we can infer that Kizaru is at the same level. There is nothing to indicate that Kizaru is the strongest as you claim.

We have to assume that all Admirals have a similar power. If Luffy, Zoro and Sanji fight one, the quiz of the matter will be how they beat him. It wouldn't mean that Luffy = Zoro = Sanji.
 
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