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You mean Hawkins losing lives doesn't affect his combat ability. So he just makes sure to get those lives for fun. He doesn't actually need them to ensure a victory.

Also Zoro having to protect Luffy and tama from the nail shower had nothing to do with why Zoro got hit

Of course everything above is true
You got it wrong, but that was to be expected. I guess, Hawkins is too complex for you.

Hawkins' fighting style is getting hit, using his cards and then attack back.

Poor Zoro couldn't handle Hawkin's Straw Man's Card and he had to protect Tama...Oh and apparently, Zoro also had to protect Luffy lmao.
Well, too bad Zoro lost and had to be treated by O-Tsuru.
 
Muzan had his chances to impress me but couldn't bring it. If this is the end of him, then what a disappointment final villain. I feel like the author just gave up.

The series went from great to meh imo.
Dude literally got every high tiers on their death bed while still being recovered. It was clearly stated he wasn’t on his full ever since the battle started. He was aging drastically. If he had been any better, the series would probably still go on for eternity with the title changed Demon slayer- Slayer..!!
 
I believe the series is ending soon though. And when will the movie about the infinite dream train coming out..??
With the success of the manga I will not be surprised if the Shueisha tell Gotouge to continue the story:bamathink:

So get ready for the big reveal in Muzan’s flashback that he was just a pawn under a bigger demon that live in China :smithnie:
 
Zoro beating the straw Man îs equivalent of beating cracker's biscuit soldier. Just because You beat IT, doesn't meen cracker himself îs defeated:seriously:
The point of the fight was that Zoro was protecting Tama and luffy as they ran to get a cure for her. The only thing Hawkins had to compete with two supernova was his strawman as he said at the start of the fight he said "I'm not foolish enough to engage directly with two members of the worst generation". Then he sent his goons and then his strawman.

The fight ends when Hawkin's entire strategy to fight both luffy and Zoro gets dismantled by pre time skip two sword Slash.
 
Right he lost. That's why Hawkins entire plan to stop fell apart from a pre time skip attack. I guess Hawkins won by letting them escape since he's such a nice guy
Hawkins stopped chasing them himself. But he knew someone would appear and save them, so he let them go. Hawkins is the winner here and not Zoro. Zoro had to be treated by freaking O-Tsuru :gokulaugh:
 
The point of the fight was that Zoro was protecting Tama and luffy as they ran to get a cure for her. The only thing Hawkins had to compete with two supernova was his strawman as he said at the start of the fight he said "I'm not foolish enough to engage directly with two members of the worst generation". Then he sent his goons and then his strawman.

The fight ends when Hawkin's entire strategy to fight both luffy and Zoro gets dismantled by pre time skip two sword Slash.
It seems like you didn't understand anything that happened. Zoro had to use a lot of strength just to get rid of his Strawman and yet he got nailed hard. Hawkins then decided to stop chasing them, as he knew someone would guide them to safety.
 
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Luffy defeat Big Mom tho.
It was not a or battle victory but a symbolic one.

By stopping the wedding and getting back Sanji, Luffy did exactly what he was coming to do and exactly what he said to Big Mom that he will do.

at what price? leaving new nakama jimbe and his crew at bm mercy, same as sanji's family, pedro dead and pekoms dead… nice victory
 
you are abotu to tell me luffy won in marienford
Nope...contextually Luffy won in WCI....he achieved his goal...

He got Sanji back
He even got Poneglyph....
He had the last laugh....

whatever he challenged against BigMom, he achieved it.....

regarding Jimbei, his status is known.....so no comments....

Marineford case is different, main objective in that arc was to rescue Ace and Luffy failed in achieving his mission and hence he lost in that war.....

Guess I have cleared things....
 
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